the conventions coming up

Calvinist Dark Lord said:

Actually, i did read it, and did reply to it and did read the OP and subsequent posts made by the OP. You even responded to my reply. Nice try though.

i shot down the conspiracy theory crap posted by the OP. Barack Obama is leaving the Presidency at 1200 hrs on 20 January 2017 no matter what he attempts to do about it. That was my position then, and it is my position now. i have provided evidence for that position, although some may have disputes about the nature of that evidence. i even backed off when i started getting into matters that were off topic.

You on the other hand, continue to drag irrelevant matters into it.

My libertarianism is not an issue. You continue to try and make it one. That i respond to you is neither here nor there. i keep trying to drag you back to point.

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USincognito said:

Since he'd been dead for three years, I'd suspect he did not.

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Albion said:

I just hate having to explain the obvious, but here goes:

If you're going to go for a third term, it follows that you'd have to plan for it PRIOR to that election campaign rolling around.

Lincoln, before his death, was in the same situation as Obama is today. The next election for him would have been 1868 and it was in his future, just as the talk about Obama figuring out some way to arrange to stay on after this term--which has been rumored in some circles for awhile now--concerned something he might do in the future.

As a matter of fact, there's no compelling reason why Obama should attempt a legal coup, whereas Lincoln could, in theory, have made a good case that the unprecedented national emergency that was the War Between the States might require him to see Reconstruction through to the end before his work was done.

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SepiaAndDust said:

Had he survived, Lincoln could have been lawfully elected to a third term (and even a fourth or term), just as FDR was.

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Albion said:

I just hate having to explain the obvious, but here goes:

If you're going to go for a third term, it follows that you'd have to plan for it PRIOR to that election campaign rolling around.

Lincoln, before his death, was in the same situation as Obama is today. The next election for him would have been 1868 and it was in his future, just as the talk about Obama figuring out some way to arrange to stay on after this term--which has been rumored in some circles for awhile now--concerned something he might do in the future.

As a matter of fact, there's no compelling reason why Obama should attempt a legal coup, whereas Lincoln could, in theory, have made a good case that the unprecedented national emergency that was the War Between the States might require him to see Reconstruction through to the end before his work was done.

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USincognito said:

Third terms were not unconstitutional in 1865 or 1968 or 1944. He wouldn't have needed to suspend the the elections to win a third term in 1868.

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Albion said:

We all know this, but it has nothing to do with the point that started us down this path.

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