I've Lost Everything (time sensitive thread) in desperate need for advice!!

1. It may seem right now that "the devil won" but God is in control and will turn it around for (objective) good. e.g. approach this fight as a training session with God on your team.
2. Yes. Definitely seek legal advice ASAP.
3. YES!!!!! They've already physically assaulted you.
4. If you have the money to live independently you should move away from those family members NOW. If you can't afford your own flat or have a trusted friend you can live with, you still could live in a caravan or mobile home.Personal safety is more important than appearances i.e. "what would OTHER people think?"
If the judge said do not live with them, then obey him. Romans 13:1-8
When you move out, only give your new address etc. to Dad on condition he doesn't give them to anyone else.

Joey Downunder is exactly correct.


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You.Have.Toxic.Family. Not sure why you should be having anything to do with them. Maybe "satan is winning" because you have opened a door that should be shut.

I have never been in a similar situation, so my thoughts may not ring true to you—since you know the situation in intimate detail. Have you been praying about it?

If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him. (James 1:5, 1984 NIV)

My reaction to your post was "move out." You might even say that's what the judge has ordered considering what a restraining order means when it is about people you are living with. You also do not want to provide an opportunity for them to accuse you of violating the restraining order.

Do you know what your (earthly) father would think about you moving out if he knew what was going on? God has pretty strong feelings about being obedient to one's parents. God will reward such behavior as if you were being obedient to Him. But that doesn't mean God requires you to stay in a situation in which you can get hurt.

It doesn't sound like they are particularly thankful for your support. While that in itself isn't a good enough Godly reason to move out, it is only one facet of the situation. It sounds like they might be the kind of people you should tell you're moving out to after you get your belongings out of their reach, and possibly people you shouldn't give your new address to (drug addiction makes it more likely a person will act irrationally).

I urge you to not use moving out as a threat. It sounds like they are not capable of changing enough in the short-term to make things better.

If there is any remnant or semblance of a blot on your record from all of this, see an attorney about expunging it. Pray first, for God to guide you to the attorney HE chooses for you if that is the direction He prompts you to pursue.

In the meantime, i'm praying for your safety and protection, and for God to grant you wisdom, discernment, clarity, and extraordinary favor, and that He recompenses you hundred fold for all that was taken from you. Follow what HE prompts you to do. Praying, sister (((hug)))

Timahani said:

Happy Friday Everyone ,
This is a time sensitive thread due to the fact that I may be pursuing legal action .So thank you so much for your advice. To make a long story as short as possible. My paternal grandma passed and left her home to all of her children including (my father). One of my father’s sister (who is a nurse) was originally living there with her sister Faye, but she hated living with Faye so she left the house. When she left, she took everything including the furniture and her financial support (the house was left bare). Due to the fact I had furniture and a job, my father and my aunt Faye asked me to move in and help Faye (my aunt) with the Bills. I had lived with my aunt in the past and everything has always went well. It was all good however, until my aunt allowed:

1. A cousin of mine who is on 22 naracotic pills, who is unemployed move into the home. Since being there: She stole my medication, she and her grandchildren would eat up all of my food. She continuously stole makeup….etc. One day when my dad was in the hospital in critical condition, she called me and demanded that I give my fathers wallet to her to use for drugs. When I didn’t (she would bully, harass me, call me aweful names), and the bad thing about it was that my aunt faye would take her side.
   
   
2. Soon, my Aunt Faye turned nasty towards me as well and would call me awful names, and would try to falsely bill me and scam me out of money. She would tell me that I owed her $400 when the bill was only $60.00.
3. My dad handled the situation and everything went well until Faye’s sister (Nora) got out of jail and moved in to the home as well.
4. Fayes sister Nora has been incarcerated for over 16 years for narocotic abuse, selling narocotic, resisting arrest etc. Within 3 days she was threatening to fight Faye and I. Both Nora and my cousin tried to Fight me several times, whenever I would tell them to please not move my furniture or things without permission. Lastly, Nora ran up to me to fight me and I simply told her. I am not going to fight you. If you continue I am going to contact your probation officer and send you back to prison. That’s when my drug addict cousin said “Ill HIT HER”. And my cousin pushed my aunt Faye into me.

To summarize, I was sitting in my room and 6 cops came to the door and was asking if I had weapons. To make short, Nora and my cousin went to court and put a restraining order on me. We went to court and they won. Even though, the 2 of them tried jumping me several times, and my dad was incarcerated at the time for something small….. I had no one to go to my defense. I had no weapon (the judge agreed) I wasn’t a danger to anyone (the judge agreed) but he stated that we should not live together.
After the judging, Before I was able to retrieve all of my items from the home they broke into my room and stole so many things from me. I am a professional, educated working on my 3 degree, with no criminal record. I promise with "all of my heart/soul" I did nothing wrong.While leaving the court they were dancing and flipped me and my elderly aunt off. I was soooooo broken.

1. Why did God let Satan win ( I never got in a fight in my life. I am very quiet and shy). I am traumatized.
   
   
2. Should I pursue this further by hiring a lawyer?
   
   
3. Should I put restraining orders on them as well?
   
4. When my Dad gets out he can put a restraining order out on them and kick them out of the house, but I would have to go back and live with Faye, do you think I should or do you think I should move on with my life.

I am like Job, my mom died, my dad is incarcerated, I lost my home…..yet those wicked people won..Please help!!!!! I need you Lord.

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Timahani: I did some more reading on your past threads and so many of them are about your toxic family/ extended family. I read one about your aunt and it sounds like the one mentioned in this thread here(cause it mentioned your grandmother). I got confused along the way because in one them you say you are safe an are keeping away from your family? there be other posts you make about having a long family history of abuse, then you go back around them, and then your family comes against you an then they be pretending to like you, they lure you back and this go on and on...end this cycle once and for all! "Sob stories" from them mean nothing except it be a method used to get you back so they can abuse you...what they doing to you ain't love, sorry sweetheart, but it ain't.
As for taking them to court or even having your father to do that? Seriously,there nothing there worth fighting for, because it keeps you tied in with your toxic relatives who have a long history of setting you up so they can run roughshod over you, I ain't no specialist but from the sound of it you're responding like a victim of long term emotional and physical abuse by your family and extended family, and that's been a reality for you since early childhood according to your other threads that I read this morning.
Move away and don't tell nobody where you going! You can't change your family, they have to do that for themselves.
As much you may want to have a relationship with your family, it's not safe to do that and it be against you getting the victory over what appears to be like a form of Stockholm syndrome...http://counsellingresource.com/therapy/self-help/stockholm/ highly recommend counseling for you just as soon as it be possible, once you get yourself safely away from the family.

Toxic family.
People say move out but where? You dont want to move into another toxic situation.

If there is a trailer park near you go find yourself a home ASAP and stay there until you can find a permanent place somewhere else.

Even a YMCA would be better. Dont offer to helps someone else with their bills (which is THEIR responsibility) as thats just opening yourself up to being used.

Off course you should seek legal action. This is what happens when you allow such kinds in. They take advantage of our kindness and generosity.

You are pentecoastal, so I wont be taking it light on you. Tongue talkers should know better basically.


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1. Did you enforce your covenant right to live delivered from all the power of the enemy, including theft?

If you failed to live this previously, and have never bothered enacting it in your life, then what the devil will do is steal from you a little bit, get away with it, and so on. From what you posted, you allowed her to be led by the devil and permitted her to steal your medication, and you failed to address the devil for the liar and the thief he is. And if that continues as it looks like it did, then he gets to steal all your possessions because you did not enforce God's will in your life to be delivered from theft.

The devil would never push things that far with me, because I would shout to people's faces if necessary, "Get thee behind my satan!" And if I got to cast devils out of lost people, I will certainly do it. I have already evicted 2 people from homes they lived in as a byproduct of me commanding devils to go. Sometimes when we command a devil to leave a home, it takes the lost person with them. Either that person is delivered of satan, or they are delivered from the home and cannot dwell there, it's their choice, but you got to stand up to satan and not let him bulldoze you like that!

If you have failed in this area, you can repent to God of your failure to enact the defeat of the devil at the cross in your life, and demand 7 times what was stolen, returned to you. Proverbs 6:31

The devil wont generally steal from people who know and believe Proverbs 6:31 because it costs the devil terribly when he tries try to steal from them. If he steals 1,000 from me, I get 7,000. 10,000? 70,000 returned to me. This is superior to Job's blessing, it's a blessing available to all in Christ.

But you can receive this word, and receive 7 fold back, if you repent to God for not previously standing, identify the thief (satan), and demand 7 times returned to you. You may have to stand to the point it becomes hard to stand, that is when you know it is working. But you continue to stand in that instance because it's not about wealth or money, but about enforcing the defeat upon the devil's kingdom. Enforcing that spiritual victory is worth more than all the things you own because it puts satan in his place, and God will be able to use you to enforce greater victories going forward. And so by doing this, you can take what satan meant for harm, and allow God to use it for greater good in your life and the lives of others.

As part of this deliverance and defeating of satan, you got to forgive the people who stole from you. Forgiveness is where you are willing to be wronged in the past and you are willing to live with what they made you suffer, not holding it against them. It doesn't mean you trust them, but you don't hold it against them, and then you pray blessings into their life and deliverance from the kingdom of satan. You use the attack as spiritual authority to minister intercession into their lives, because God has now given you spiritual authority into their life because they have stolen from you. This means you can pray all manner of God's will into their life so they are delivered from the enemy.

So you get 7 times back, and family members delivered into Christ's kingdom.

2. If you have no faith, and want to manage your affairs like a lost person who belongs to the world, yes if you want.

If you want to handle it like a Holy Ghost baptized Christian with spiritual authority in Christ, no.

3. If you have no faith, sounds like it could be okay.

If you have faith, the restraining order you seek is Psalms 91 enforced against the kingdom of satan. Without taking authority over the kingdom of the devil, you will live in defeat, and it doesn't matter what transpires, satan will always have the ability to enforce theft into your life various ways. Whether it be wear and tear or financial loses due to other problems. If you never tell satan "No" with God's authority, you're just living in defeat.

4. Personally, just me, I would march into the house and take authority over it through Christ. That said, I also would never have permitted it to escalate to that point, satan would have failed before it got that far. So, trying to take a big stand like this if it is your first time, can be too much.

So I would just revert to my previous answers. It's a spiritual problem, you should address it spiritually. The kingdom of the devil kicked you out of the home you were living in and satan stole all your possessions. You got to fight against satan on this.

Wordily legal things, restraining orders, police, or whatever, it doesn't solve the issue. If you have no faith, then sure, whatever.

Just last night, I was sleeping at my parent's house. I woke up in the middle of the night, and God gave me discerning of spirits to see a demon in the room. It was affecting my parent's household. I took authority over that demon and kicked it off the property, and then I prayed about 15 blessings over that household. God does not back down in the face of satan, God attacks the kingdom of darkness with a spiritual sword, and the devil falls on his rear end, utterly defeated.

When I woke up and saw that demon, I was ready to go, I lunged at him with my hands as if to tear him apart myself, but then I went into rebuking it and blessing our household.

PS - You're not suffering for Christ unless you forgive and let it go. But even then, you let the devil trounce you in life. I get PO'ed when I see this happen on the forum. People just don't know what is at stake sometimes, all the lives of people who were in that situation are at stake, that's why you attack satan with the word.

yes; you are like Job - but you are only half way through Job's experience:

Job 42:12-17 KJV
(12) So the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses.
(13) He had also seven sons and three daughters.
(14) And he called the name of the first, Jemima; and the name of the second, Kezia; and the name of the third, Kerenhappuch.
(15) And in all the land were no women found so fair as the daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance among their brethren.
(16) After this lived Job an hundred and forty years, and saw his sons, and his sons' sons, even four generations.
(17) So Job died, being old and full of days.

if you'll not cast away your confidence in God's love and faithfulness to you, you'll see restoration come to you the way it came to Job - don't let yourself believe that satan has won simply because it looks that way at the moment, he only wins when you choose to believe that he has - that's when he's stopped your world-overcoming faith

specific advice: get quiet, hear from God, do what He leads you to do, walk in selfless love as you do it, and let God be your 'shield and buckler'

Job's problem if you read it out, God said he was a righteous man, none like him in all the world. This meant Job had authority to rebuke Satan to his face when satan showed up to steal kill and destroy. Rather Job had fear, and it let satan into his life to destroy things, and Job did not know to rebuke satan with covenant authority.

Job is not a model for how a Christian should live. We are not supposed to go through life with the devil stepping his big foot on our head every day. A lot of bad Christianity sources its theology from Job and not Jesus Christ.

What did Jesus do when the devil showed up at Christ's doorstep with death?

" I am the resurrection and the life. "

Ultimately, the man who stole from Christ's ministry hung himself and is burning in hell right now, so it is not like thievery defeated Jesus either. At the cross he was robbed of all, so we are robbed of nothing, and having been robbed he was given the right hand of the Father for eternity.

If Christ managed his affairs like Job, he would have been justifying himself on the cross, rather than dying for the world's sins.

Timahani said:

At Kit Sigmon:
The other post that saw in the past involved family members from my moms side of the family. The people that I am speaking of in this post are from my fathers side of the family. I lived with my aunt Faye in the past, and it was not an abusive situation. She just all of a sudden changed when her niece and sister moved into the house.

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Timahani: After more reading of your threads and this current thread here be the only one that mentions your father? Where was he or your mom when you was struggling with your health and no immediate family come to your aid, where was he and your mom when you needed protection? where was he and your mom when you and your much younger brother be being raised by aging grandmother? Where they be? You see, I be confused by all that has gone on with your relatives and this going back and forth with them and they continue with their bad ways towards you over and over. I cried reading this and about how you had been at death's door an you say that none of your immediate family was there for you, there accounts where you shared about living in the same house with the relative who raped you, why wasn't this person reported for raping you...why you made to suffer living with him in the same house? Your parents abandoned you and your much younger brother, both of you been abused and on and on it goes and the misdeeds by your family (no matter which side of it be numerous), I can hardly wrapped my head around such a family that you continue to interact with since none of them has sought to repent and work towards building trusts with you....their "sorrys" don't mean they safe to go back to, much less live with relatives who be so deceptive...they sound like the gypsies that use to be in my area many years ago, now them gypsies be carrying on something fierce!

You be well shed of family/ relatives who treat you like garbage, you a child of God! Get yourself from them once and for all!
You mentioned completing counseling and the therapist saying you alright? how can that be? You repeatedly setting yourself up to fail again and again, show her these threads, she'll see that been going on for a long time and that is reflected all through the five pages of different threads you posts on here, and yes I read all of them over the last few days...I could hardly stop once I got started...my heart aches over what you have been through child, sorry, I know you ain't a child but a thirty-something year old woman who is still suffering the after effects of emotional, verbal and physical abuses by her own relatives, relatives that just aren't safe for you to be around at all because they keep doing the same things to you. Get away while you be able...God help you to be strong enough to do that.

It is time to make the trip to Acapulco!

Timahani: Dear beloved child of the Living God- Jesus loves you with everlasting love and has unlimited power to create good from all of this hurt and loss. I hope that you are able to cling to Him and draw near to Him "that you may know Him, and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being made conformable unto his death..." I pray that He would teach you what real love looks like and help you to grow in all knowledge and discernment. I pray that you would sense His nearness and tender hand guiding you. I pray that He would surround you with loving kind people who will build you up and be a family for you--a family who love God and live in His light and truth. I pray that you will get safely away from the destructive people in your life and that God will teach you healthy boundaries to protect yourself from those who would be used by the enemy against you. Jesus, please cause Timahani to grow in you so that she can know through the Holy Spirit your will for her life and so that she can know truth and be set free.

While you do not know me very well, I hope that you will consider my advice as someone who has lived through terrible family turmoil (a small sample of which is in my post history), and many years ago, as a young Christian, terrible loss and affliction. While there are many many loving Christians who would only desire to build you up during this time of suffering, there are others who cannot be trusted with your hurts and wounds and will "shoot" you when you are wounded. They will share terrible theology with you and will condemn you and confuse you rather than build you up. Please be careful who you trust and take advice from. If you cannot imagine Jesus sitting across from you, saying nearly the same thing that is being said to you, then feel free to disregard it and save yourself a ton of pain and misery. Assuming that you know your Bible, when someone is giving you advice, if it does not line up with the Bible nearly verbatim, please feel free to disregard it. If you do this, you will be okay as long as you cling to Christ and His word because you have the Holy Spirit within you who is the Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of Truth, and our teacher. He will lead you into all truth, but it takes time in the word and in prayer and living with your spiritual ears open to what God would say to you to have your thinking changed. I know that He is with you and He is going to finish the work He started in you! He will heal you and then He will use you to touch lives for His glory!

Many Christians believe that through the authority we have been given, we should be able to change our circumstances and eliminate much of our pain and suffering and that if we have not, or cannot change our pain and suffering, it is a sign of spiritual weakness or lack of faith (although I would contend that some people make these things into a work of the flesh). I believe 100% that God still does miracles and that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. And God works miracles according to His purpose and will. That being said, Jesus was blameless and suffered terribly! Hebrews 5:8 "Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered." We too can learn obedience from the things we suffer. Psalm 119:71 says, "It is good for me that I was afflicted, That I may learn Your statutes."

Paul wrote much of the New Testament and was an absolute spiritual giant in Christ and he suffered terribly. Look at what Paul wrote in 2 Corinthians 11 about boasting in the flesh/his own personal suffering/boasting in weakness: