Another look at the Trinity.

thankfulttt said:

You see no battle between the flesh and the spirit? Read Romans 8:1-15 The lust of the flesh and the pride of life is sin.

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

In the medical world there is no difference between the psychological model and the physical model, but no, I am not saying that I hold a psychological model and am excluding the physical model.

I am saying God is our Father who sent two forms of communication to man. One is the Word which became clothed in flesh, and the other is God's spirit. That adds up to three.

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No, no. Paul is talking here about pride, not flesh. He used flesh or the body as a symbol for that. In Scripture , the material order is intrinsically good, and everything has a physical dimension, including God, who is attributed just about every body part. What you are doing is unduly reading Hellenic metaphysics, where the temporal-material world is seen as an illusion, something intrinsically evil.

thankfulttt said:

The temporal-material world is not an illusion, but it is temporal.

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Yes, but that is beside the point here.

I would like to ask thankfulttt a hypothetical question:

If you were to invite the Trinity to dinner, how many chairs would you make ready for Them?

Peter1000 said:

I would like to ask thankfulttt a hypothetical question:

If you were to invite the Trinity to dinner, how many chairs would you make ready for Them?

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I think that question is unanswerable because the Father dwells in unapproachable light and is not what we would call a material being in any sense of the word. Neither is the Holy Spirit a material being. Only the Son ever took on flesh.

Otoh, Daniel 7 describes multiple thrones in heaven for the Ancient of Days and the Son of Man, and Hebrews 1 says that
after making purification for sins Jesus sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.

So I see multiple thrones in heaven, but our chairs here have only ever been suitable for the "Word made flesh".

ChetSinger said:

I think that question is unanswerable because the Father dwells in unapproachable light and is not what we would call a material being in any sense of the word. Neither is the Holy Spirit a material being. Only the Son ever took on flesh.

Otoh, Daniel 7 describes multiple thrones in heaven for the Ancient of Days and the Son of Man, and Hebrews 1 says that
after making purification for sins Jesus sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.

So I see multiple thrones in heaven, but our chairs here have only ever been suitable for the "Word made flesh".

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The fact that only the Son took flesh does not rule out God having a physical dimension, being material. The Bible knows of no immaterial beings. Everything in Scripture has a physical dimension. This includes God, to whom is attributed just about every single body part, suggesting teh ancient Israelis viewed God as a physical being.
I think the "mystery" of the Trinity id due largely to muddled thinking on the part of the fathers.
You seem to be suggesting that the Trinity refers to three separate, unique personalities. I disagree. I think that any teaching suggesting there are three minds, subjective, personalities, or the like, in the Godhead automatically collapses into tritheism.

La ilaha illallah...No god other than The-God...