Science PROVES the BIBLE is True

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I use Strongs AND the Blue Letter Bible. That way I can look up all the passages in the Bible were the Origional Hebrew Word is used. I feel this is very important for understanding what the Bible is saying. This avoids the sort of error your making because the translation is not clear enough for you to understand the meaning and the intent of the passage.

So we shouldn't trust interpretations of the Hebrew, unless they are your interpretations?
 
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I'm sorry but you do not have an elementary understanding of biology.
All high school graduates are required to understand Biology in order to graduate. So evolutionists DEMAND that a person function at a high school level in science. Yet they can not even function at a third grade level when it comes to their understanding of the Bible. In my part of the country they call that hypocrisy. They say what is good for the goose is good for the gander. If you want to debate people at a high school level for Science then you should be able to demonstrate the same level of understanding regarding the Bible.
 
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All high school graduates are required to understand Biology in order to graduate. So evolutionists DEMAND that a person function at a high school level in science. Yet they can not even function at a third grade level when it comes to their understanding of the Bible. In my part of the country they call that hypocrisy. They say what is good for the goose is good for the gander. If you want to debate people at a high school level for Science then you should be able to demonstrate the same level of understanding regarding the Bible.

When you have a third grade understanding of the Hindu Vedas, come back to us.
 
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So we shouldn't trust interpretations of the Hebrew, unless they are your interpretations?
I don't know if the Hebrew can really be translated into English. You need to study the Bible in the original language. I study the Bible one word at a time. I just try to understand what the word means. For example when we read the story of Noah we see the Words: Adamah and Erths. Erths means the whole earth, and Adamah means the land that Adam lived in. This is what you would refer to as a Biodiverse Ecosystem. Erths would refer to the whole bio-sphere. With this understanding I see no conflict. Noahs flood was in Adamah in the Land of Adam. Not the whole bio-sphere.
 
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I don't know if the Hebrew can really be translated into English.

If you don't know what the Bible is saying, then how can you claim that the science supports what the Bible is saying?

You need to study the Bible in the original language.

That's exactly what the translators of the modern versions of the Bible did.

Erths means the whole earth, and Adamah means the land that Adam lived in.

So what? If there is so much rain that the Rocky Mountains are covered by water in my land, what do you think this means for the rest of the Earth?
 
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All high school graduates are required to understand Biology in order to graduate.

And it's amazing how so many people don't understand it. I was also required to understand the basics of physics and chemistry as well. This was also in a private Christian highschool. Like the majority of Christians, they have no problem with evolution.

Yet they can not even function at a third grade level when it comes to their understanding of the Bible.

Has the bible ever had any applications that improve the life of humanity? Understanding evolution has progressed modern medicine. I don't see the bible doing that. It simply has very little value. It has no place in the public school system.
 
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All high school graduates are required to understand Biology in order to graduate. So evolutionists DEMAND that a person function at a high school level in science. Yet they can not even function at a third grade level when it comes to their understanding of the Bible. In my part of the country they call that hypocrisy. They say what is good for the goose is good for the gander. If you want to debate people at a high school level for Science then you should be able to demonstrate the same level of understanding regarding the Bible.

Or Strong's!

I vaguely recall that somewhere Strong's comes up with Elijah meaning 'God of Jehovah'!

If strong is correct all Christian thought must change.

If instead it is the fairly obvious 'Power of God' things fall nicely into place.
 
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When you have a third grade understanding of the Hindu Vedas, come back to us.
Ok and you can come back to us when you can test out at a third grade level of understanding of the Bible. Quoting the reprobate Steve Wells does not help your case at all. Meanwhile we are talking about Creationism based on the Bible. Are you ready to join us in the discussion or do you have nothing to add to the conversation? Because if your going to expect that people can function at a high school level in science then why can't we expect you to function at a high school level of understanding of the Bible? If you expect us to accept your standards then you should live by your own rules and the standards that you set. Otherwise a double standard is hypocrisy.
 
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And it's amazing how so many people don't understand it.
Everyone has to pass the same test to graduate. Who pays if you want to take classes at the University while you are still in High School? My son graduated from High School with a years worth of college. He has friends in his classes that graduated with 2 years worth of college. He got $24,000 in merit scholarships. They got more then him in scholarships because they took more college classes then he did.
 
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Everyone has to pass the same test to graduate. Who pays if you want to take classes at the University while you are still in High School? My son graduated from High School with a years worth of college. He has friends in his classes that graduated with 2 years worth of college. He got $24,000 in merit scholarships. They got more then him in scholarships because they took more college classes then he did.

Let's see if you can use the type of geology knowledge taught in 1st grade. You are claiming that the supposed flood only happened in Adam's land. Genesis describes this flood as topping the high mountains in Adam's land. Do you dispute that?

The Grand Tetons aren't far from where I live. I would consider them to be in "my land".

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If it rained enough to top those mountains, what do you think the rest of the world would look like?
 
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Notice that whenever people start to talk about the geologic evidence, the YEC's try to change the subject.
YEC-yes I am, and what an honor to be one. See I know what I believe in, but there are many on here that do not know what you believe in. Yes, evolution teaches that we all come from a single celled organism millions of years ago, which became the monkey that you come from. The key to the hoax of the theory of evolution is millions of years. That is just what it is a theory, science real science has to be observed, tested and recorded over and over again. Ever see a monkey turn into a man, did not think so, so lets not call it science, because it can not be observed. The following website shows what evolutionist believe in(that you came from monkeys-ever heard of Lucy?): http://www.macroevolution.net/human-evolution-chart.html , yes there are instances of microevolution, but not macroevolution, and there is a very big difference in the two. A quote from Wikipedia "
The Piltdown Man was a paleoanthropological hoax in which bone fragments were presented as the fossilised remains of a previously unknown early human." Piltdown man was made in the figment of some evolutionary scientist imagination, that he used a tooth from a pig to make Piltdown man and also his wife. Did you know that dinosaurs are in the Bible, amazing what you can learn when you know the truth! But, there was millions of years between the last dinosaur and man being on earth-really?
 
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Do you know what a flood plain is?

Do you know what mountains are?

Genesis 7:19 They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered.20 The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than fifteen cubits.

There is plenty of evidence for Noah's flood in the excavations of the city of ancient Ur.

Noah's flood was supposed to be thousands of feet deep which would have left flood sediments on every continent.
 
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The key to the hoax of the theory of evolution is millions of years. That is just what it is a theory, science real science has to be observed, tested and recorded over and over again.


The first thing you need to do is learn what science is. Theories are science. Theories are exactly what science is supposed to produce.

Also, theories are not observed. You don't observe a theory or a hypothesis. You test a theory. If you can't get the basics right, you have no business criticizing the details.

yes there are instances of microevolution, but not macroevolution, and there is a very big difference in the two.

There isn't any difference. Macroevolution is nothing more than the accumulation of microevolutionary events. Every genetic difference between humans and other species is due to microevolution.

A quote from Wikipedia "
The Piltdown Man was a paleoanthropological hoax in which bone fragments were presented as the fossilised remains of a previously unknown early human." Piltdown man was made in the figment of some evolutionary scientist imagination, that he used a tooth from a pig to make Piltdown man and also his wife. Did you know that dinosaurs are in the Bible, amazing what you can learn when you know the truth! But, there was millions of years between the last dinosaur and man being on earth-really?

Hoaxes do not make the genuine transitional fossils go away.
 
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Do you know what a flood plain is? There is plenty of evidence for Noah's flood in the excavations of the city of ancient Ur. You will find a considerable amount of flood deposit there.

http://ncse.com/cej/8/2/flood-mesopotamian-archaeological-evidence

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Joshua- that would mean that the city of Ur was covered by mud and debris from Noah's flood. Is the city of Ur mentioned in the Bible- would you look at that, it is not only mentioned once, but four times in different verses of the Bible: Genesis 11:28; Genesis 11:31; Genesis 15:7, and Nehemiah 9:7, so would that not prove to the skeptics(the evolutionist) that there is Biblical evidence of Noah's flood? That the names of cities and the names of real people were true in the Bible? Hey, there is also fossil evidence of human and dinosaur bones found in the same strata(Geology. a single bed of sedimentary rock, generally consisting of one kind of matter representing continuous deposition.) in Australia here is the website: http://www.news.com.au/technology/s...ngside-dinosaurs/story-fn5fsgyc-1226930162755 Have a blessed day knowing the truth.
 
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The Piltdown Man was a paleoanthropological hoax in which bone fragments were presented as the fossilised remains of a previously unknown early human." Piltdown man was made in the figment of some evolutionary scientist imagination, that he used a tooth from a pig to make Piltdown man and also his wife. Did you know that dinosaurs are in the Bible, amazing what you can learn when you know the truth! But, there was millions of years between the last dinosaur and man being on earth-really?

That's not true. The actual person who discovered the tooth fragment never made any such claims about his find - a journalist sensationalized the find and drew up pictures about it, but that wasn't supported by the scientist himself.
 
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Joshua- that would mean that the city of Ur was covered by mud and debris from Noah's flood. Is the city of Ur mentioned in the Bible- would you look at that, it is not only mentioned once, but five times in different verses of the Bible: Genesis 11:28; Genesis 11:31; Genesis 15:7; 1 Chronicles 11:35; and Nehemiah 9:7, so would that not prove to the skeptics(the evolutionist) that there is Biblical evidence of Noah's flood?

The Harry Potter books mention London, and we know that London is real. Does that mean the Harry Potter books are real stories?

Hey, there is also fossil evidence of human and dinosaur bones found in the same strata(Geology. a single bed of sedimentary rock, generally consisting of one kind of matter representing continuous deposition.) in Australia here is the website: http://www.news.com.au/technology/s...ngside-dinosaurs/story-fn5fsgyc-1226930162755 Have a blessed day knowing the truth.

What is the evidence?
 
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