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K guys this is really big and if you cant help me out that is cool... Im having some huge questions with my faith [Christian] lately. I got questions that so far I cant see any answer to... well let me tell the story.

Okay I think it all started when I got my frist girlfreind 5 months ago. Suddenly when she came into my life I found I had so much to think about [okay Im obsessed with her], but that just started it, shes not the problem here. So time moves on, as it does Im slowly starting to pray less and just start goin to sleep without praying [Ive prayed before bed for a long time before this, usually 7-12 mins]. And yeah so that's happening and then we start reading this book in school [btw I go to a private Christian school] called Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. It talks a lot about the needs of a human being and talks about this perfect society where people dont think for themselves.It talks about religion and how it relates to life, it discribes it as a crutch at points... Im starting to see this in my life. Right now I dont feel a need for God... so things are starting to get interesting right, its not done.

One day Im drving wiht my dad passed the cemetery where my grandpa is burried and he pops me the question, "where do u think people go when they die?" Okay so Im just like whooa... I sorta could tell he was looking for a meaning in life, hes at that age, but I didnt expect him to start talking to me about the Bible being *perhaps* a 'medaphor', a good way to live your life. So yeah this is wierd, my father is a very smart and good man. Does more good then some people do, involved in the church and whatnot, so this makes me think...

Okay so now Im thinking, talking with very little people [told one person to this day... thats my gf, shes a christain] about it but thinking and observing things... Im seriously considering if Christianity is real. I got these questions, they are very hard:

OKay why should anyone who's not a Christian actually decide to become one? Why should a perfectly happy atheist leave his good, full, life and start being a Christian? Sure he's heard of God and Jesus but he's also heard of Buddah. There isnt anything logical about Christianity, and especailly if they are educated and understand the types of stuff that book [brave new world] was talking about, why should they come into MY faith, because my book says so?

Okay that doesnt even account for other religions... the ONLY reason Im a Christian is taht I was raised in the house Im in. The only reason Joe Jew is of the Jewish faith is because that is where he was as a baby... there is no reason on earth he should change. I had a presentation in school today about Islam... its like the same thing as Christianity cept they are more devout... how can I pick Christianity over it? How can a merciful God **** 1.3 billion people because of what family they were brought up in?

There are so many religions that all appear to be just as good in the formalities and intracacies... if I go looking at which one is 'the best for me' how am I supposed to afterwards believe that there is only one God? Why is Christainity better then Islam? The only religion that I can see being tangeble in that sorta was is a polytheisetic one.

How can I accept Christianity with these questions, these questions im pretty confident none of you will be able to touch for me? It doesnt add up... how can people be expected to choose Christainity? How can I be expected to? I dont even have the capacity to decide this stuff! Im a freakin 16 year old kid! I guess that is why I came here...

I have had a fairly good spiritual life in teh passed few years. I know that there is more to it then just believing, that there is feeling... but I get so much  outta things like love [going back to the good old gf] and other games and reading and stuff as well. Its not adding up...

And on top of this being a Christian teenage guy is not fun. I want to have sex, I want to do all the fun things... the things God says no to.

There is also one up side to the Christian business... but its iffy. The things the Bible says are amazingly true. They are good to follow and for the most part I think it has brought me up to be a much better person, even the Christian schooling... but Im starting to get the feeling that it is just some sorta medaphor for living a good full life...  

SO any insite is apprecaited... hahaha if u actually read all this u must care a bit or have somthing to say :p. Im not gonna drop my faith if u dont help me, this is just a source of help... thanks guys, you really must be nice if u read all taht lol.
 

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Man, tough questions!

Why believe in one God? I dunno, I just don't see a reason to need others. The one I've got covers everything.

As to the teenage stuff... Boy, tricky. I don't know what advice to give. I generally think that sex is probably a bad idea for teenagers; too many side-effects, too deeply tied in to the way your brain works. Too *dangerous*, really. That one's good practical advice apart from any moral considerations.
 
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Today at 03:06 AM Andrew said this in Post #3

Tyler,

are you born again? Or are you assuming that you are a Christian becos you grew up in a Christian home? there is actually no such thing.

if there is a one perfect, holy and righteous almighty God, do you think living a good life qualifies you to hang out with him now and after death?
 
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after you take the step of faith and personally receive Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, His Holy Spirit comes in and resides in you. It is only then that you will begin to understnd certain things and have many of your questions answered.

Until that occurs, you'll have a lot of questions and doubts. That's why Christianity is a faith (without faith it is imposs to please God). Its not possible to have every question answered to your satisfaction first b4 you will accept and believe on the Lord Christ Jesus.

Granted certain questions will have to be answered. but I believe these have to only pertain to what the Gospel really is about and what God wants you to do with the information.

God bless. :)
 
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Yesterday at 11:11 PM Tyler582 said this in Post #1
OKay why should anyone who's not a Christian actually decide to become one? Why should a perfectly happy atheist leave his good, full, life and start being a Christian?




Usually what starts the search is wanting to know the truth, does God exist or not? Did Christ verify his claims by being ressurected from the dead? Obviously each of us in life has a responsibility to discern these things for ourselves. Either there is a God or there isnt. If one view states that I simply become nothing and the other states I will be in Hell for eternity for unbelief, it makes sense to at least check out the claims of that view to see if they are legitimate. In John 8:32, Christ said "And you shall know the truth; and the truth shall set you free." and "seek, and you will find" (Luke 11:9) As to why should an atheist should want to become a theist? I think thats self evident - eternal life and fellowship with our Creator.  I think the real question is 'why wouldnt you want to follow Christ if what He says is true? For a lot of people its because it means giving up pet sins and living in a way that is unnatural to us. We must always be careful not to let that which is most comfortable and feels the best to be what determines truth. 

Yesterday at 11:11 PM Tyler582 said this in Post #1

There isnt anything logical about Christianity,




Why?? Whats so illogical about it? Creation? The Incarnation? The existence of God??? In my experience i've found quite the opposite, Christianity allows the rest of the world to make sense. I'm sure however that this isnt something that you've come to learn by careful study. I dont mean to be mean, i've been in the same position when I was in High School. Being in a public school secular humanism is working on you all day long, you eventually begin to believe all the things youve been told about the reliability of and the historicity of the scripture and the only way you can reconcile everything is to look at it from a liberal allegorical sense that leaves you thinking: Whats the point?? My advice - look in to apologetics which is just a word that means making a defense of the faith. Two easy books to start with are 'The Case for Christ' and 'The Case for Faith' by Lee Strobel. They're easy to read and hit upon the major objections to Christianity and faith in God in general. A website you can try is www.tektonics.org that has an 'encyclopedia' that allows you to look up hard to follow or commonly misinterpreted verses. I think you'll find like I did that Christianity is very logical.


Yesterday at 11:11 PM Tyler582 said this in Post #1

and especailly if they are educated and understand the types of stuff that book [brave new world] was talking about




*sigh* ...no emoticon can describe the horror...



Yesterday at 11:11 PM Tyler582 said this in Post #1

Okay that doesnt even account for other religions... the ONLY reason Im a Christian is taht I was raised in the house Im in.




Then your a Christian for the wrong reason. I sure you dont believe thats what makes you a Christian You should certainly feel lucky that you were born to a Christian home, it certainly makes things easier


Yesterday at 11:11 PM Tyler582 said this in Post #1

The only reason Joe Jew is of the Jewish faith is because that is where he was as a baby



That may be why he started out as a Jew, but conversions happen all the time. Try here: www.jewsforjesus.com  

It seems that your automatically assuming that because one has accepted one faith it means they will never convert to another. Thats simply not true, the Gospel overcomes that obstacle on a daily basis. Atheists becom Christians everyday. (And, yes atheism is as much a religion as theism is.)


Yesterday at 11:11 PM Tyler582 said this in Post #1

I had a presentation in school today about Islam... its like the same thing as Christianity cept they are more devout... how can I pick Christianity over it?



Sorry, but if that was the conclusion of your presentation then I would have had to given you a "F". Islam and Christianity are polar opposites. Try here: http://www.answering-islam.org/


Yesterday at 11:11 PM Tyler582 said this in Post #1

How can a merciful God **** 1.3 billion people because of what family they were brought up in?



See my post here: http://www.christianforums.com/threads/36005-1.html for my answer.


Yesterday at 11:11 PM Tyler582 said this in Post #1

There are so many religions that all appear to be just as good in the formalities and intracacies



Thats just it, they APPEAR to be just as good....huge differences though. A good book to read on this subject is 'Jesus Among Other Gods' by Ravi Zacharias. He also speaks about this subject quite a bit. His web site is www.rzim.org


Yesterday at 11:11 PM Tyler582 said this in Post #1

if I go looking at which one is 'the best for me'




Thats the problem, it shouldnt be what "fits me best" or "what I agree with" your basing whether something is true or not based on whether you like it. I dont like the fact that hundreds of babies are aborted everyday (im probably under-estimating) but that doesnt make it any less true. The ways of God are not the ways of man. His ways are unnatural to us because our nature is sinfull. Being a Christian is rough, Christ said that if they HATED him they will HATE us as well.


Yesterday at 11:11 PM Tyler582 said this in Post #1

how am I supposed to afterwards believe that there is only one God?



I believe that if something is true then its defendable. Try finding some pagan or wiccan apologists.


Yesterday at 11:11 PM Tyler582 said this in Post #1

Why is Christainity better then Islam? The only religion that I can see being tangeble in that sorta was is a polytheisetic one.



See links and answers above.


Yesterday at 11:11 PM Tyler582 said this in Post #1

How can I accept Christianity with these questions, these questions im pretty confident none of you will be able to touch for me?



While i've not gone very indepth, i've provided plenty of books and links that can help you answer them. Its something that your going to have to spend some time studying and most of all read your Bible. But I feel these can be answered pretty easily and shouldnt result in anyone becoming an apostate.

Yesterday at 11:11 PM Tyler582 said this in Post #1

It doesnt add up... how can people be expected to choose Christainity? How can I be expected to? I dont even have the capacity to decide this stuff! Im a freakin 16 year old kid! I guess that is why I came here...




I feel the same way sometimes, theres a billion and one viewpoints out there and how do you know yours is right? Christianity is logical and can be defended. Your just gonna have to do a little studying. :)


Yesterday at 11:11 PM Tyler582 said this in Post #1

And on top of this being a Christian teenage guy is not fun. I want to have sex, I want to do all the fun things... the things God says no to.



Being a Christian doesnt mean you cant have fun and as you progress in your walk it will become easier and you wont "want" certain sins as much as you used to. As far as sex, hang in there if you dont, youll regret it later on. Trust me. Sin creates problems. Some sins create BIG problems.


Yesterday at 11:11 PM Tyler582 said this in Post #1

SO any insite is apprecaited... hahaha if u actually read all this u must care a bit or have somthing to say . Im not gonna drop my faith if u dont help me, this is just a source of help... thanks guys, you really must be nice if u read all taht lol.


Hope this helps and God Bless.
 
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What he's asking, is, Have you personally accepted God into your life?
Just because you are brought up in the atmosphere, does not mean that you are a Christian by assosciation.

I know so many people that think this way.

Christianity isn't being able to say you were brought up to believe in Jesus Christ but that you do believe he is lord of your life. In order for one to be able to say that, he must first be willing to let him in, he must be willing to open up and accept him.

Rev. 3:20 says, Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Jesus doesn't force his way in but the person has to open that door to him. That person must be willing to surrender.

Andrew says it very well.

after you take the step of faith and personally receive Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, His Holy Spirit comes in and resides in you. It is only then that you will begin to understnd certain things and have many of your questions answered.

 

 
 
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why pick Christianity. Cause its true... eh :D well I just started reading a cool book about a Jewish family (or just Daughter & Dad ? not sure yet :)) becoming Christian. For them it was all about tradition aswell... the father or daughter thought the only way to be a Jew was to be born as one. (it even says in the bible..y a know before Jesus that you could 'join' em. ) don't have too much time right now.. but well the book's pretty cool, can post the title & stuff later..

I know a lil lil lil bit what you mean, I was raised Christian aswell .. well I had a very cool expirience um well making me turn around to God (it wasn't like I had really turned from Him.. I just came a lot closer...)
.. I got some questions aswell... don't understand some stuff in the bible, but I can see how God's not letting me down.. I could tell you so much.. maybe later :)... ya know who seeks will find, who asks will receive...who knocks um will be opened (Jesus said that)
k didn't even read your whole thing to be honest but I'll come back :)
 
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Yesterday at 03:11 PM Tyler582 said this in Post #1

OKay why should anyone who's not a Christian actually decide to become one?

Deciding to become a disciple of Christ is a result of God's indwelling presence, not a means to it.

Why should a perfectly happy atheist leave his good, full, life and start being a Christian?

They won't, unless God brings them back to life.

How can a merciful God **** 1.3 billion people because of what family they were brought up in?

That's not how God works.  If it is His Will to bring someone to faith in the saving work of His Son then He will bring that about.  If He does not bring them to faith in Christ's propitiatory atonement then it's not His Will that they be saved.  Trust in Him.  He will bring about His Will in perfect accordance with His eternal Plan. 

It doesnt add up... how can people be expected to choose Christainity?

By the grace of God.  There is no other way.  If God does not give someone faith then they don't have faith to put in Him.  Trust in Him.  God will accomplish exactly what God plans to accomplish.

How can I be expected to? I dont even have the capacity to decide this stuff! Im a freakin 16 year old kid! I guess that is why I came here...

LOL!  Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.  Immerse yourself in His Word.  You already know it's the truth.  Now learn why. 

And on top of this being a Christian teenage guy is not fun. I want to have sex, I want to do all the fun things... the things God says no to.

This is the struggle that Paul is speaking of in Romans 7, well, not exactly sex, but the struggle between the old nature and the new, the flesh and the spirit, the fallen nature and the regenerate one.  Being conformed to the image of Christ is not an easy journey my young Skywalker but rest assured, you're not going it alone. 

I wish you the best my friend.  I'll pray for you and you should pray and study God's Word.

God bless
 
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5th March 2003 at 09:11 PM Andrew said this in Post #7

after you take the step of faith and personally receive Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, His Holy Spirit comes in and resides in you.

Tyler, I truly hope you come to understand that until the Holy Spirit comes in and resides in a person they are spiritually dead and cannot take a step of faith and personally commit to living in supplication and obedience to God.

Believing in the redemptive work of Christ is a result of being born again, not a means to it.

It's not about what you do to be saved, it's about what He's done to save you.

If you believe in Christ then you are saved my friend.

God bless
 
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hey tyler,

I understand what you're going through. I've been through that stage when I was a teenager myself (by the way, im 23 now). I started questioning the Christian faith. However, God proved to be loving that He didnt let me go astray.

Really, sometimes, God allows those lowlights in your life, lke questioning the faith, so we can become closer with Him. Questioning leads into discovery...because of a more persistent search for the truth.

My answer to your question why Christianity and not another religion is...Christianity stands out among the rest in that all the other religions' leaders are dead and buried while our leader was dead, resurrected an alive and kicking up to this moment. If you want to read more on evidence of Jesus Christ's existence, humanity and deity...I suggest the your read Lee Strobel's "The Case for Christ" or if you are really a reader...the voluminous book "Evidence which Demands a Verdict". If you are searching for facts, go ahead and grab copy. I am assuming that you searching for more factual info aside from the Bible. Lee Strobel refers to other historical works where the existence of Jesus has cross-reference.

I agree with the other posters: Growing in a Christian home doesnt make you a Christian, much less does a bike parked in a garage make it a car. Christianity is all about a personal relationship with Jesus, which begins by accepting Him as Lord and personal Savior into your life.

Praying and reading the Bible doesnt make u a Christian either, and doing good works doesnt save you. Jesus alone is the key to salvation. He is our ticket to heaven.

Good works, praying, and daily reading the Bible are aftereffects of your saved life, not the precedents.

It's tough to be a Christian in a corrupted world, but let us remember, Christ went before us. He has gone through all of the thngs we are experiencing.

Gotta run!
 
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Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate your help... I think Im starting to see the problems taking new form, perhaps a more straigh forward but harder form. I hadnt prayed properly in a looooooong time when I posted this. But not last night but the one before I did. And it was amazing... The night I made this post I tried to pray. There was nothing there... I couldnt do anytihng, when I tried to ask for forgivness it was nothing cause I knew I couldnt ask because I wasnt really sorry and Im just not the type of person that can lie... or at least not to God :p. So I ended up asking for him to not let me get farther away and help bring me closer. And also for help with some people who are sick and stuff... So then the other night I prayed and was completely honest, I told him I couldnt be sorry for all things [things taht I knew Id do again like gf related and swearing and stuff like that], but that I wanted to be closer and it would take time. I completely layed out how I felt and it felt so good, I was like crying the whole time lol. Yeah, so things will be okay, I think I can find the good answers to thses questions, u guys really helped :) thanks.
 
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6th March 2003 at 04:35 AM Tyler582 said this in Post #5

opps, i meant to say after that that:

Man, Im questioning the Christian faith and if I can be a part of it or not... I mean I can see peeps being offended by this, sry if thats the case...

Tyler:

You are no different than millions who question the Christian faith. After all there are so many competing religions in the world.  However, after you take a good hard look at them, everything boils down to just TWO:

1. The Gospel of Jesus Christ (the only way to God)

2. Salvation by good works -- all other religions 

Since we cannot work our way to heaven, God made a simple Plan of Salvation, which is the Gospel.

BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THOU SHALT BE SAVED (Acts. 16:31). What this means is that all human beings are sinners, and the penalty for sin is physical death, and finally eternal death. In order for us to be saved from eternal death, Jesus Christ, who is both LORD [God] and Christ [Saviour], died for all our sins and paid the full penalty of physical and eternal death. He also rose again on the third day, so that we could receive THE GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE, which is Christ Himself. If you believe this with all your heart, if you turn from all your sins, and if you simply ask Him to come into your soul, you will be saved. Period. BELIEVE IT!

After that you can get all your questions answered by God Himself, through His Word (the Bible) and the Holy Spirit, who also comes into you when you are saved. Naturally, there will be people who can help you become a stable and strong Christian by teaching you further and praying for you. Find a sound Bible or Gospel church to help you grow.


 
 
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Yesterday at 04:58 PM Tyler582 said this in Post #15

Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate your help... I think Im starting to see the problems taking new form, perhaps a more straigh forward but harder form. I hadnt prayed properly in a looooooong time when I posted this. But not last night but the one before I did. And it was amazing... The night I made this post I tried to pray. There was nothing there... I couldnt do anytihng, when I tried to ask for forgivness it was nothing cause I knew I couldnt ask because I wasnt really sorry and Im just not the type of person that can lie... or at least not to God :p. So I ended up asking for him to not let me get farther away and help bring me closer. And also for help with some people who are sick and stuff... So then the other night I prayed and was completely honest, I told him I couldnt be sorry for all things [things taht I knew Id do again like gf related and swearing and stuff like that], but that I wanted to be closer and it would take time. I completely layed out how I felt and it felt so good, I was like crying the whole time lol. Yeah, so things will be okay, I think I can find the good answers to thses questions, u guys really helped :) thanks.
Praise God Tyler. You are a wise 16 yr old. Probably the result of your wise parents decision to "bring you up in the way should go, so that when you get old you will not depart from it."

You did the wise thing by taking your questions and feelings straight to the Lord in prayer. And God proved himself faithful by blessing you with His peace and His wisdom. Be very careful in seeking answers to lifes problems through the wisdom of man.

Try to include your earthly father in your search for anwers. I understand that this probably feels weird and ackward but try to work your way through it.
 
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You know, Tyler, I'm 16 too and struggling with a lot of the same issues...this past year my prayer life has taken a drastic turn for the better, but I don't think my heart and mind were ever truly in agreement...and that's something I'm working on.
People mentioned the Case For Christ -- it's a good start, not amazing, but good. What it does is give you the basics so that you can make your way forward with a new outlook and make time for personal study -- which is what I'm doing. Don't be discouraged, go forward with Him in your heart and you will be guided.
Glad you had such an awesome time praying -- I've really begun to rediscover the joy I had in it in the beginning, too.
Pax Christi,
Shannon
 
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