I'm contemplating saying goodbye to Christianity

LoyalToGod · May 1, 2016

Far Side Of the Moon said:
Do you wanna talk I can relate to almost everything you said.

Thank you for understanding me and don't mind if I do. It frustrates me to no end that I see my neighbors in far superior positions than me (they have jobs, decent education, cars, motorcycles, bicycles, you name it!). I found that their lives are far easier than mine, whereas I personally feel that being a Catholic Christian was the biggest mistake of my life and it got me nowhere in life.

Far Side Of the Moon · May 1, 2016

LoyalToGod said:
Thank you for understanding me and don't mind if I do. It frustrates me to no end that I see my neighbors in far superior positions than me (they have jobs, decent education, cars, motorcycles, bicycles, you name it!). I found that their lives are far easier than mine, whereas I personally feel that being a Catholic Christian was the biggest mistake of my life and it got me nowhere in life.

I know how u feel I'm 24 ( supposed to be the beat years of my life but I'm struggling) I have no friends, live in hotel ( been here for 3 yrs and counting) struggling with school..and just so much in general...i feel god. Idk he just doesn't give a mess about my life...the friends I do have are online...i text them...and they're doing way better than me and I always feel its only a matter of time before they move on to something greater...while I'm just in square one...i know your frustration BC I'm living it...im stressed to the point I cant remember simple things, and can barely sleep...i know people go through worse...

But there are many living better than me and it pains me greatly...
To the point , I have a tooth that recently broke off... If it gets infected and takes me out.. I dont give a damn.

Far Side Of the Moon · May 1, 2016

I just dont understand why I wasn't given the opportunity to be happy like other people...

LoyalToGod · May 1, 2016

Far Side Of the Moon said:
I know how u feel I'm 24 ( supposed to be the beat years of my life but I'm struggling) I have no friends, live in hotel ( been here for 3 yrs and counting) struggling with school..and just so much in general...i feel god. Idk he just doesn't give a mess about my life...the friends I do have are online...i text them...and they're doing way better than me and I always feel its only a matter of time before they move on to something greater...while I'm just in square one...i know your frustration BC I'm living it...im stressed to the point I cant remember simple things, and can barely sleep...i know people go through worse...

But there are many living better than me and it pains me greatly...
To the point , I have a tooth that recently broke off... If it gets infected and takes me out.. I dont give a damn.

Thank you for understanding me. I, too, am 24 years old as well.

Far Side Of the Moon · May 3, 2016

LoyalToGod said:
Thank you for understanding me. I, too, am 24 years old as well.

Wow that's neat.

LoyalToGod · May 3, 2016

Far Side Of the Moon said:
Wow that's neat.

What's neat?

LoyalToGod · May 7, 2016

Thank you to all for replying to my thread.
I did some serious thinking, and I realized that while life as a Catholic-Christian is harder than the average non-Biblical life, it's something to be thankful for. And I apologize to everyone for causing some serious grief on this thread because of my childishness. Guess I have a lot of growing up spiritually to do. But thank you again, everyone, for opening my eyes. May God bless you all!

heaLsEarch · May 8, 2016

I hope you don't mind me responding to your post since I know I don't have love as much as even average non Christians have.

You don't have to apologize (at least to me) because I've struggled with belief/doubts all the time especially at your age. And I believe God intended for us to choose Him with our free choice. He wants to see us grow to an independent human being with a mature mind, including battling and overcoming disbelief which is so painful and probably an unnecessary one a lot of times. I sympathize with how you feel. I chose to believe Him in the end because even if I wanted to disbelieve Him so much, circumstances in my life forced me to acknowledge His existence. It was really scary to know His existence, and yet not know if He loved me or saw me as irredeemable just like many people seemed to do (though it was only a Christian know it all housemistress who did it, as I looked back later).

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I've just PMed you for a little info.

Jeshu · May 8, 2016

LoyalToGod said:
Thank you to all for replying to my thread.
I did some serious thinking, and I realized that while life as a Catholic-Christian is harder than the average non-Biblical life, it's something to be thankful for. And I apologize to everyone for causing some serious grief on this thread because of my childishness. Guess I have a lot of growing up spiritually to do. But thank you again, everyone, for opening my eyes. May God bless you all!

Battle on Loyal, it is not that we don't understand, faith in God, especially when everything seems silent so very hard. The bible says that faith is a gift of God so don't forget to thank Him if you find that you have faith in Him. The more you love and trust His truth, the more He will speak to you through the word dwelling within you.

The best part is that you can trust Him to be with you wherever you are and whatever you are going through, simply acknowledge that His truth surrounds your life and He will be with you.

Let His loving truth protect you, it is a spiritual thing first of all, let Him guide you in how you think and what you do and you will find eternal life in the blood of Jesus. In His loving truth we are even free to suffer with dignity, something satan never hands out.

I really hope you will find security in the truth of God in your life

LoyalToGod · May 9, 2016

Thank you everyone, but I did a bit more thinking, and somewhat realized that I'm not even sure about my faith at this point at all...

Jeshu · May 10, 2016

When I came to my low point in faith I thought by myself what now? I know that truth exists, I know that love exists and that He wrote us a love letter - when it comes to Jesus Christ but I also know that the Church cannot save me, that I myself often get stuck with bad life and that good life comes from Him but I haven't got it.

So I came to my conclusion that the truth of God's love - Jesus Christ - is someone I had to meet in real life before I would believe in Him. For according to the bible Jesus is not dead but alive. In knew that truth is true and that love brings good even through times of much pain.

So I knew I had to find Jesus in love Himself, for God is love, and when we don't love then we can't meet or be with God the truth was as simple as that!

This is what got me through my times of unbelief - which I struggled with for many years - for when we are deaf, blind and lame then how can we acquire the goodness that comes from Him? I knew that sin within me wanted to conquer me and make me do things I would later regret, or worse don't even care about any more. The devil tempts you with promises which will not come true or only come true if you pay the price and sell your morals and values to the dogs, all so you can feed the wicked their ravenous appetites as they squander your good life, feeding you pittance, and so a slave to your own desires you do as you are told.

Honest loyal, whenever you feel doubt or unbelief then look at what such brings, don't for a moment believe that doubt or unbelief speak true, there is neither truth nor love in what such says within you. The wicked tempt you away from your faith in God for they are scared that you might keep them out instead of ruling your life. Misery comes from the devil loyal, he sucks it out of the Abyss each time we bring into being right within our own hearts. You will hunger my dear.

Instead of finding the loving voice of God to guide, teach and delight you with His truth, that impostor lying you out of your birthrights bringing you darkness instead of light.

if you want to escape the bottomless pit then disown unbelief right within you, for the bottomless pit is where unbelief is going, right back into the Abyss where it came from in the first place, in God's kingdom we haven't got any place for it.

Hoping you will not forget that Jesus and us all will be awaiting your return into the fold of believers.

Peace

PropheticTimes · May 10, 2016

LoyalToGod said:
yeah right... Try having two suicide attempts under your belt in the early stages of being a Catholic Christian, being perpetually poor due to your mom's lack of college education, having to depend on the freaking government for sustenance (i.e. food, shelter, SSI, SNAP/food stamps), said parent taking crappy jobs (by that, I meant babysitting problem children with parents from what I could only describe as demons in human form) just to help me and my older brother (who's ALSO suffering with depression), and me being greatly psychologically and emotionally handicapped (to the point that if I even see a homeless person, I would literally cry in seconds) to the point of not being able to go outside by myself unless I have an escort, in this case being her, and finally feeling like a freaking burden because I can't work literally.

Hi Loyal

I feel your pain, as many of us here do. We sometimes think having God on our side means life should be easier, but most times it seems harder. I have learned to remind myself - Did Jesus have it easy? Was His life free from suffering? I mean, He was the Son of God Himself, you can't get any closer than that! But He suffered greatly. There was immense meaning in His sufferings that we know NOW, but no one knew while it was happening. I am 44, a survivor of SRA (satanic ritual abuse), I suffer a myriad of issues stemming from this including depression, PTSD, DID, extreme anxiety, and more. I have tried to kill myself several times. I am on SSI, food stamps, medicaid. I live with my mom and have never left home, never went to college, worked only 3 months of my life, no skills, I do not drive so I am isolated, very few friends...I could go on, but I wanted you to see that I understand where you are coming from and the pain of your situation. I am sorry you are struggling so much. I have tears in my eyes just typing this and I wish I could give you a hug. Please, let my words take hold in your heart - I have walked away from God. Things got much worse. I found that He has always been there, just not in the ways I wanted Him to be. I found He always hears my prayers, but sometimes the answer is "not yet", "that's not good for you, I have something better", "be patient, it will come", or "it will come when you learn what I am trying to teach you because your heart is not yet ready". I found that most of the heartache in this world is caused by the poor choices of people, not God, and our free will He will not interfere with. But He is there. When my father and others used me violently in horrible ways, I've no doubt He cried with me, held me, kept me safe from the worst of what humanity has the potential to offer.

He is with you, Loyal. His heart breaks with yours. He has a way out for you, but you need to let go of expectations and trust that He knows the best way there. The things you ask of Him, if He does not give them to you, are not the way to the greatness He has in store for you. Life is hard. People will hurt us. Circumstances will seem hopeless. But if we keep hold of His hand, it will all be worth it, that I can promise you.

LoyalToGod · May 10, 2016

PropheticTimes said:
Hi Loyal

I feel your pain, as many of us here do. We sometimes think having God on our side means life should be easier, but most times it seems harder. I have learned to remind myself - Did Jesus have it easy? Was His life free from suffering? I mean, He was the Son of God Himself, you can't get any closer than that! But He suffered greatly. There was immense meaning in His sufferings that we know NOW, but no one knew while it was happening. I am 44, a survivor of SRA (satanic ritual abuse), I suffer a myriad of issues stemming from this including depression, PTSD, DID, extreme anxiety, and more. I have tried to kill myself several times. I am on SSI, food stamps, medicaid. I live with my mom and have never left home, never went to college, worked only 3 months of my life, no skills, I do not drive so I am isolated, very few friends...I could go on, but I wanted you to see that I understand where you are coming from and the pain of your situation. I am sorry you are struggling so much. I have tears in my eyes just typing this and I wish I could give you a hug. Please, let my words take hold in your heart - I have walked away from God. Things got much worse. I found that He has always been there, just not in the ways I wanted Him to be. I found He always hears my prayers, but sometimes the answer is "not yet", "that's not good for you, I have something better", "be patient, it will come", or "it will come when you learn what I am trying to teach you because your heart is not yet ready". I found that most of the heartache in this world is caused by the poor choices of people, not God, and our free will He will not interfere with. But He is there. When my father and others used me violently in horrible ways, I've no doubt He cried with me, held me, kept me safe from the worst of what humanity has the potential to offer.

He is with you, Loyal. His heart breaks with yours. He has a way out for you, but you need to let go of expectations and trust that He knows the best way there. The things you ask of Him, if He does not give them to you, are not the way to the greatness He has in store for you. Life is hard. People will hurt us. Circumstances will seem hopeless. But if we keep hold of His hand, it will all be worth it, that I can promise you.

Oh my goodness, to say that I'm very sorry you've been through a lot worse than me is an understatement. Thank you for sharing and helping me

PropheticTimes · May 10, 2016

We all have sufferings, and when they are happening to us they are never a small matter nor should they be compared to another's suffering. We all hurt, but it's not as hard to bear when we know we aren't alone in it. I pray you stay strong in the Lord and allow Him to unfold the beauty He has for you before your eyes. He loves you more dearly than words. And, as is evident from the replies to your post, so do many of your brothers and sisters in Christ.

Take care of yourself.

LoyalToGod · May 10, 2016

PropheticTimes said:
We all have sufferings, and when they are happening to us they are never a small matter nor should they be compared to another's suffering. We all hurt, but it's not as hard to bear when we know we aren't alone in it. I pray you stay strong in the Lord and allow Him to unfold the beauty He has for you before your eyes. He loves you more dearly than words. And, as is evident from the replies to your post, so do many of your brothers and sisters in Christ.

Take care of yourself.

Thank you! Likewise

4x4toy · May 10, 2016

LoyalToGod said:
For 8 years now, I've been a Catholic-Christian, and all I got in return was pain and misery... I'm so done with God that it's not even funny at all. I'm contemplating either Vampirism, Atheism, or even Satanism...

I'm just done with Him for ignoring my prayers...

Try Jesus , he has a plan for you not dictated from a man elected by who knows who .. And it's free ..

LoyalToGod · May 10, 2016

4x4toy said:
Try Jesus , he has a plan for you not dictated from a man elected by who knows who .. And it's free ..

Thank you for your compassionate reply

4x4toy · May 11, 2016

LoyalToGod said:
Thank you for your compassionate reply

Friend , God is not a genie sitting in a bottle waiting for us to make a wish .. He is God our Father , we have access through Jesus only .. Every one has hardships .. The Word says My people perish for lack of knowledge .. If you can't study to show yourself approved who can approve you ? It is not easy or every one would be like the apostle Paul .. You have to know enough to renew your mind in Christ and that takes persistence .. Look at and read Job .. He had it all and lost it all .. Read psalms you should find many to relate , you are not alone .. It could take weeks to began to take control .. Learn to praise and worship , sing out , lift your hands in praise , shout , clap , dance before the Lord , Then pray for an hour humbled .. Just do it , wait and see .. Who knows your calling is to help others with first hand experience , your personal testimony of Jesus and it doesn't matter what you think , it matters that you be conformed to Gods will for your life and you can .. And use praise and worship music not that sad crap or rock .. God inhabits the praises of his people .. I got sick and tired of being sick and tired too and fought the same battle so I know it's real ..
May you come to love Jesus with all your heart mind body and soul ..

Your friend in Jesus , Rick ...

LoyalToGod · May 11, 2016

4x4toy said:
Friend , God is not a genie sitting in a bottle waiting for us to make a wish .. He is God our Father , we have access through Jesus only .. Every one has hardships .. The Word says My people perish for lack of knowledge .. If you can't study to show yourself approved who can approve you ? It is not easy or every one would be like the apostle Paul .. You have to know enough to renew your mind in Christ and that takes persistence .. Look at and read Job .. He had it all and lost it all .. Read psalms you should find many to relate , you are not alone .. It could take weeks to began to take control .. Learn to praise and worship , lift your hands in praise , shout , clap , dance before the Lord , Then pray for an hour humbled .. Just do it , wait and see .. Who knows your calling is to help others with first hand experience , your personal testimony of Jesus and it doesn't matter what you think , it matters that you be conformed to Gods will for your life and you can .. And use praise and worship music not that sad crap or rock .. God inhabits the praises of his people .. I got sick and tired of being sick and tired too and fought the same battle so I know it's real ..
May you come to love Jesus with all your heart mind body and soul ..

Your friend in Jesus , Rick ...

You're kinda pushy, but I appreciate the advice

4x4toy · May 11, 2016

LoyalToGod said:
You're kinda pushy, but I appreciate the advice

Well at least you got a little stirred , LOL .. Just curious what would be your advise to me if the shoe were on the other foot or advise as is ?

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