What you need to know about the antichrist according to Bl. John Henry Newman

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Yeah i know. But the man of sin must refer to his actions or his personality or something.

The way in which i have considered the antichrist is thus

If Christ came to forgive sin
The Anti Christ will come to permit sin hence my probably wrong understanding of "the man of sin"
 
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Yeah i know. But the man of sin must refer to his actions or his personality or something.

The way in which i have considered the antichrist is thus

If Christ came to forgive sin
The Anti Christ will come to permit sin hence my probably wrong understanding of "the man of sin"
Your guess is as good as mine but I always thought the antichrist would have a political platform while having an air of religiousity. But that probably comes from my protestant background. I'm just trying to learn the Catholic pov throughout history as it is not discussed much.
 
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Yeah i know. But the man of sin must refer to his actions or his personality or something.

The way in which i have considered the antichrist is thus

If Christ came to forgive sin
The Anti Christ will come to permit sin hence my probably wrong understanding of "the man of sin"

Interesting, on another thread is discussed Luther and his sin boldy statement. I posted a video from The Remnant that mentions this exact thing....permitting sin
 
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Does it not seem like endtimes were discussed more in the Catholic past as compared to now? Although I will say Pope Francis seems to reference it a lot.

I think endtimes are being discussed more today than they were a decade ago.
 
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Interesting, on another thread is discussed Luther and his sin boldy statement. I posted a video from The Remnant that mentions this exact thing....permitting sin

Do you think luther was a prefigurment?
 
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Does it not seem like endtimes were discussed more in the Catholic past as compared to now? Although I will say Pope Francis seems to reference it a lot.

I was about to make a thread on that very topic
one poster not that long ago said that such focus on the End Times was a symptom of being influenced by Evangelical Protestants
I noted that in times past there were many serious Catholic mystics and academics who spoke and wrote on this topic
including more then a few Saints

I think we stopped talking about it in the late 1800's to the mid 1900's because we wanted to sound more "serious"
similar to the Mainline Protestant denominations
in doing this we "ceded" that topic to the Fundamentalist Protestants
 
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I have noticed it used to be discussed more by Catholics than it is now and I can't help but wonder why.
I was about to make a thread on that very topic
one poster not that long ago said that such focus on the End Times was a symptom of being influenced by Evangelical Protestants
I noted that in times past there were many serious Catholic mystics and academics who spoke and wrote on this topic
including more then a few Saints

I think we stopped talking about it in the late 1800's to the mid 1900's because we wanted to sound more "serious"
similar to the Mainline Protestant denominations
in doing this we "ceded" that topic to the Fundamentalist Protestants
 
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I have noticed it used to be discussed more by Catholics than it is now and I can't help but wonder why.

there was the German model of "Historical Criticism" of biblical texts that started to get popular in the late 1800's early 1900's

this model of Biblical interpretation is now largely disproven

but as a response to this method of Biblical interpretation the Fundamentalist Churches rose up in response to that

from what little I have read, this is kind of where we get the modern split between Mainline Protestant and Fundamentalist
 
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Thanks Michie for posting this. Now I can add this to the other sources I have on this fascinating topic. The other sources I have include The Explanation of the Apocalypse by St. Bede, St. Jerome's commentary on the book of Daniel, Eschatology or the Catholic Doctrine of the Last Things: A Dogmatic Treatise by Rev. Joseph Pohle Ph.D., and The End of the Present World and the Mysteries of the Future Life by Fr. Charles Arminjon.

thank you for those recommendations
I have the book by Fr. Arminjon and I have read through the St. Bede commentary on the Apocalypse
but I have not seen St. Jerome's commentary on the Book of Daniel yet

there are also many visions from great Saints
 
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thank you for those recommendations
I have the book by Fr. Arminjon and I have read through the St. Bede commentary on the Apocalypse
but I have not seen St. Jerome's commentary on the Book of Daniel yet

there are also many visions from great Saints
Thank you being the one to let me know about the book by Fr. Arminjon. The version of St. Jerome's commentary on the book of Daniel that I have is this one (ISBN-13: 978-1606083758):

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Thanks Michie for posting this. Now I can add this to the other sources I have on this fascinating topic. The other sources I have include The Explanation of the Apocalypse by St. Bede, St. Jerome's commentary on the book of Daniel, Eschatology or the Catholic Doctrine of the Last Things: A Dogmatic Treatise by Rev. Joseph Pohle Ph.D., and The End of the Present World and the Mysteries of the Future Life by Fr. Charles Arminjon.

Also, The End Of The World As We Know It by R. Eeyem
 
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I am obsessed with collapse and the end times. This quote from the article really spoke to me:

"Surely, with this prospect before us, we cannot bear to give ourselves up to thoughts of ease and comfort, of making money, settling well, or rising in the world."
 
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I am obsessed with collapse and the end times. This quote from the article really spoke to me:

"Surely, with this prospect before us, we cannot bear to give ourselves up to thoughts of ease and comfort, of making money, settling well, or rising in the world."

Obsession is bad. Serve the Lord and love your neighbor to the best of your ability and the end times become rather irrelevant.
 
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