The Wall epiphany

James of Arc · Apr 4, 2016

First off let me say thank you for having me.

Second let me say thank you for letting me get some stuff off of my chess.

When I was a younger man and living in the pop/drug culture that is so mainstream in this country I would on occasion watch the movie "THE WALL" which was from the Pink Floyd album of the same name.

I always thought it was about some guy messed up on drugs but it is the complete opposite, it is about a guy who is dropping out of society and hiding from the world do to his bad experiences growing up. First because his dad died in WWII and then because his mother was too over bearing and then because his wife had an affair on him so he is separating himself from the world one brick at a time. The guy did not even do drugs but it was drugs that helped him get up and back into the world.

Read the Wikipedia pages on the album and the movie. It is nothing like I thought it was.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wall

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Floyd_–_The_Wall

What blew me away is that it made me realize what was going on with me. I have been putting up bricks and building up a wall to keep me from participating in society and to keep me safe. I am not an introvert or anti social but I am somebody who has been screwed over so many times that I am tired of trying and I know I can never have anybody in my life that I can trust. I am building a wall until I am the only one behind it and there is nobody else to hurt me.

How many here are finding this to be true?

I am wondering if I can come here and talk about theses things so I can have somebody to talk to about this situation.

Thanks.

James of Arc · Apr 4, 2016

The whole movie is a metaphor and has been translated wrong to the general public.

Like this song. Its not about death but its about his thoughts on not having a dad because his dad was killed in the war and it is another reason to put another brick in the wall to separate him from the rest of the world.

Good bye blue sky is not about death but about not seeing the outside world any more do to the wall he is building around himself.

Its actually quiet interesting understanding that this is not a drug culture film but a film about seclusion and droping out of society to the point of your body is shutting down to where you no longer excest in the physical world but only in a world in your mind.

Evie1980 · Apr 5, 2016

That is a very interesting message. To be honest it is a quite difficult living in relationship with others and, at times, it can be much easier to build walls to segregate ourselves.

I know this to be true in my own life. There is no bigger wall than moving to a place where you are solely reliant on yourself which is something that I do on regular basis. Not being able to communicate with others (due to language and cultural differences) is a wall that is very difficult to over come. Don't get me wrong - I have enjoyed my nomadic life. However, I know that it comes with the price of always being disconnected with people. That is really what a wall is a way to disconnect from others.

But life is not meant to be life that. Life is supposed to be filled with love, trust and forgiveness. I am not sure what the solution is for your life but I know that the Lord is using these circumstances to reveal unto me a new way of thinking and of living. Praying that might be true for you too.

James of Arc · Apr 5, 2016

@ Evie - What language do you speak and what do those around you speak?

Evie1980 · Apr 5, 2016

I speak English and at the moment I live in Indonesia so they speak Bahsa Indonesia.

James of Arc · Apr 5, 2016

My point to this thread is not to promote the movie The Wall but it is really about rejoicing in the fact that I understand what has been going on to me for the last 30 years. I am not the only one who has secluded themselves from having others in their life. There are others like me. I am not nuts or anti social but I have to protect myself.

I will not go into detail but lets just say that I have leprosy and people do not want to be around me. Even if I wear lots of makeup and I get somebody to like me they will eventually realize I have leprosy and stop being around me. After many years of have people drop me as a friend I have learned to put up a wall so I cant be hurt any more. I have given up.

It is nice to see that I am not alone. I still have to protect myself with a wall but at least I understand I am not nuts or anti social, I have a reason. REJOYCE!!!!!

Citanul · Apr 5, 2016

Elrod said:
The whole movie is a metaphor and has been translated wrong to the general public.

Like this song. Its not about death but its about his thoughts on not having a dad because his dad was killed in the war and it is another reason to put another brick in the wall to separate him from the rest of the world.

Good bye blue sky is not about death but about not seeing the outside world any more do to the wall he is building around himself.

Its actually quiet interesting understanding that this is not a drug culture film but a film about seclusion and droping out of society to the point of your body is shutting down to where you no longer excest in the physical world but only in a world in your mind.

It's the general perception really that it's about drugs? I thought it was fairly commonly understood that it was about someone shutting himself off from the rest of the world. That's how definitely how I interpreted it when I first heard it as a teenager, and the idea it was about drugs never occurred to me. Comfortably Numb is about drugs, but that's just one song and the rest of the album deals with other things.

Goodbook · Apr 5, 2016

Elrod said:
First off let me say thank you for having me.

Second let me say thank you for letting me get some stuff off of my chess.

When I was a younger man and living in the pop/drug culture that is so mainstream in this country I would on occasion watch the movie "THE WALL" which was from the Pink Floyd album of the same name.

I always thought it was about some guy messed up on drugs but it is the complete opposite, it is about a guy who is dropping out of society and hiding from the world do to his bad experiences growing up. First because his dad died in WWII and then because his mother was too over bearing and then because his wife had an affair on him so he is separating himself from the world one brick at a time. The guy did not even do drugs but it was drugs that helped him get up and back into the world.

Read the Wikipedia pages on the album and the movie. It is nothing like I thought it was.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wall

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Floyd_–_The_Wall

What blew me away is that it made me realize what was going on with me. I have been putting up bricks and building up a wall to keep me from participating in society and to keep me safe. I am not an introvert or anti social but I am somebody who has been screwed over so many times that I am tired of trying and I know I can never have anybody in my life that I can trust. I am building a wall until I am the only one behind it and there is nobody else to hurt me.

How many here are finding this to be true?

I am wondering if I can come here and talk about theses things so I can have somebody to talk to about this situation.

Thanks.

You can trust Jesus as he says he will never leave you nor forsake you.

I don't know if you ever read the bible, but back in the Old Testament the israelites conquered Jericho by shouting songs of victory and the walls came tumbling down. Then they could possess the land. They could only do it with the power of God. Its in the book of Joshua.

Also, as christians, we put on the whole armour of God. God gives us this to protect us from the enemy. Satan always tries to attack us but we have a shield of faith. You will find this scripture in Ephesians.

If you are in some sort of spiritual warfare and battling addictions, you need to confess this, repent and Jesus will heal you and set you free. He wants to bring you into His family. Think of what happened on the cross and the three days after. The stone was rolled away from the tomb. Jesus didn't stay in there..and he doesn't want you to stay in there either.

God Bless.

Saucy · Apr 5, 2016

I used to be so bad at this. I was going through a tremendous amount of pain and just couldn't handle anything. I would leave chats, unfriend people, and lash out just to push people away because I couldn't handle it. It wasn't a healthy way to deal with what I was going through. But God is the Great Healer and can change your life if you let Him.

We aren't meant to shut ourselves in and hide from the world. We need to be bold and courageous to share the gospel in a dark world. Even here in America, where we're protected, we're afraid to even say the name of God or else we might *gasp!* offend someone. We can't think that way anymore. Time to break down those walls like the Kool Aid man!

Swan7 · Apr 5, 2016

Elrod said:
My point to this thread is not to promote the movie The Wall but it is really about rejoicing in the fact that I understand what has been going on to me for the last 30 years. I am not the only one who has secluded themselves from having others in their life. There are others like me. I am not nuts or anti social but I have to protect myself.

I was there for many years after something had happened to me. I, myself, will not go into detail, but it caused me great suffering and I almost was numb enough to commit suicide, but God saved me because I let Him in. He worked in my heart so I didn't have anything to fear, granted, that took years of healing and in some ways, still am. I wasn't anti-social either. Just really afraid of people, but now that seems so far away.

I pray that you too will be healed. Jesus will never leave you and that is the truth! :angel:

Boogeyman07 · Apr 12, 2016

Praying for you Elrod. Life is tough. Glad you shared what you are going through, takes courage. Don't harden your heart. Just know that the only one you truly need to trust is God. Seek Him with all your heart, ask for healing and guidance, ask for Him to send you true friends...maybe you have, maybe that's why your here?

Be strong.

Boogeyman07 · Apr 12, 2016

BTW, where is "Close to the center of Kansas"? With my old job I was in Salina for a while last summer.

James of Arc · Apr 12, 2016

Boogeyman07 said:
BTW, where is "Close to the center of Kansas"? With my old job I was in Salina for a while last summer.

All over but mostly the Wichita area. Sometimes over by Fort Scott and Pittsburg but mostly Haysville, Derby, Hutchinson, Newton and all areas in between.

I like Salina but its been awhile since I have been there.

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