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What I do is carefully study ALL of the Prophetic Word.
We know the Sixth Seal IS the Day of the Lord's wrath and the 4 scriptures I pointed out in #72 prove the Lord will send fire on that Day. Amos 1:1-15, Isaiah 10:17-19....note: in one day...
A massive CME will cause the sky to roll up like a scroll, the moon to blaze blood red, the earth to shake and shudder and our satellites to crash to earth.
Why must you argue against such a thing happening? Is it just too scary for you?
I don't believe that the 6 Th seal is the right timing for God to send fire.It is specifically said that the 6 Th seal is the wrath of the LAMB .The wrath of the LORD will come some years after.

An extra blast of heat from the sun IS a Coronal Mass Ejection, just as Isaiah 30:26 says will happen on the Day the Lord sieves out the nations for destruction. Isaiah 30:27-28 His arm will descend in fierce anger, with devouring flames of fire....Isaiah 30:30
About every summers we experiment heat waves none of them are caused by a CME.The extra heat scorching man at the 4 th vial described in Revelation 16 will come from a -temporary- expansion of the coronna of the sun toward the Earth .....not because of a CME.
 
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I don't believe that the 6 Th seal is the right timing for God to send fire.It is specifically said that the 6 Th seal is the wrath of the LAMB .The wrath of the LORD will come some years after.
Your belief, not mine.
I note in Revelation 11:18 the verse you think proves the Lord's wrath comes after the 6th Seal. I looked it up in the Scripture Analyzer. The nations were angered, but Your Day of wrath has come.... I see the KJV says: is come, but the word translated come is elthan, which is a past tense word meaning: came. So, has come is correct, it refers to the Lord's Day of wrath as a past event.
Do not think that the people in Revelation 6:13 are mistaken, because that list of people covers every living person on earth.
About every summers we experiment heat waves none of them are caused by a CME.The extra heat scorching man at the 4 th vial described in Revelation 16 will come from a -temporary- expansion of the coronna of the sun toward the Earth .....not because of a CME.
Again, just your opinion.
Expansion of the suns corona? Any scientific evidence of such a possibility? Whereas, we know about CME's, they are regular occurrences.
Re the Sixth Seal: Isaiah 30:26 says: the sun will shine with seven times its normal brightness, like seven days in one.....
This can and will happen literally, a CME will do it and fulfil exactly all the graphic prophesies about that Day.
Isaiah 47:14 The wicked are as stubble, the fire burns them up......It isn't just a glowing coal to warm them or only a hearth fire to sit by!
 
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Your belief, not mine.
I note in Revelation 11:18 the verse you think proves the Lord's wrath comes after the 6th Seal. I looked it up in the Scripture Analyzer. The nations were angered, but Your Day of wrath has come.... I see the KJV says: is come, but the word translated come is elthan, which is a past tense word meaning: came. So, has come is correct, it refers to the Lord's Day of wrath as a past event.
Do not think that the people in Revelation 6:13 are mistaken, because that list of people covers every living person on earth.
I have never said that the events described at the opening of 6Th seal will not happen.

"About the 4Th vial -men scorched from the heat of the Sun."
Again, just your opinion.
Expansion of the suns corona? Any scientific evidence of such a possibility?
ACT OF GOD
Revelation 16:8-9
8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

Whereas, we know about CME's, they are regular occurrences.
Re the Sixth Seal: Isaiah 30:26 says: the sun will shine with seven times its normal brightness, like seven days in one.....
But it is said that at the 6Th seal the Sun will became black as a sackcloth of hair....not that the sun will shine with seven times its normal brightness, like seven days in one
Revelation 6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

Notice the sequence:
1- the great earthquake
2- and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair
3- and the moon became as blood;
4- and the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs,
5- and the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

I believe that member Bible 2 with the Yellowstone caldera explosion have the correct explanation in relation to the sequence 1 to 5
see post #35 page 2- here:
http://www.christianforums.com/thre...ce-of-the-one-world-government.7865583/page-2
 
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I know you don't really like videos brother, but, I kind of want to know what Avi Lipkin has to say. I tend to like videos . I can measure what people have to say against the scriptures to see if I agree or disagree with them. Plus, sometimes they can be very entertaining. :)

I started looking for the video a few days ago after reading your post as I wanted to see for myself too. I couldn't find the video with Avi Lipkin in it but instead found a recent video by Gary Stearman about the Aswan dam. It's an interesting video and they've also said nothing can destroy the dam except a nuclear explosion. The result of it will cause a massive flooding into the land of Egypt bringing forth radioactive contamination.

https://prophecywatchers.com/videos/gary-stearman-the-nuclear-destruction-of-egypt/






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But it is said that at the 6Th seal the Sun will became black as a sackcloth of hair....not that the sun will shine with seven times its normal brightness, like seven days in one
When this CME of unprecedented magnitude, directed toward earth, is blasted out from the sun, we will see the initial very bright flash. Then the huge mass of plasma, travelling at 3 to 5 million mph, will obscure the sun, darkening our view of the sun moon and stars. Isaiah 13:10, . Amos 5:20, Zephaniah 1:15
It's impossible for an explosion of Yellowstone to produce the worldwide or the cosmic effects.
We are so close to the sudden and shocking Day, when the Lord will reset our civilization, like He did in Noah's day. be aware or remain in the dark, about God's plans.
 
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I started looking for the video a few days ago after reading your post as I wanted to see for myself too. I couldn't find the video with Avi Lipkin in it but instead found a recent video by Gary Stearman about the Aswan dam. It's an interesting video and they've also said nothing can destroy the dam except a nuclear explosion. The result of it will cause a massive flooding into the land of Egypt bringing forth radioactive contamination.
But the prophesies do not tell of flooding. They say the Nile will dry up.
People seem fixated on nukes, they aren't what we are told will happen; earthquakes are.
 
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When this CME of unprecedented magnitude, directed toward earth, is blasted out from the sun, we will see the initial very bright flash. Then the huge mass of plasma, travelling at 3 to 5 million mph, will obscure the sun, darkening our view of the sun moon and stars. Isaiah 13:10, . Amos 5:20, Zephaniah 1:15
It's impossible for an explosion of Yellowstone to produce the worldwide or the cosmic effects.
We are so close to the sudden and shocking Day, when the Lord will reset our civilization, like He did in Noah's day.
There is no doubt that the 6 Th Seal devastating worldwide earthquake and the destruction of the satellites by the huge cosmic space dust cloud
See details here:
http://www.christianforums.com/thre...mergence-of-the-one-world-government.7865583/

or by your proposed CME will reset our civilisation ....to the point that you will be unable to take a plane to go in the Holy Land as you hope until many years after the 6 th seal events, because of the destruction of the airports caused by the big worldwide earthquake and also because of the destruction of the GPS satellites and the other mean of communication essential for airspace navigation like radars.

be aware or remain in the dark, about God's plans.
Be aware that there will be no gathering of the Saints /resurrected and for those still alive/ in the Holy Land until the Coming of Jesus after the Tribulation.
 
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But the prophesies do not tell of flooding.

Keras, Keras, Keras!

Dunno what to do with you sometimes. I can expect this from someone new to bible prophecies but you've been doing this forever. I had expected you to know this. Inexcusable! :p

Jeremiah 46:7-8 is the flood. Jeremiah 46:13-25 is the destruction of Egypt.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=jer 46:7-26&version=NKJV

Jeremiah 46:7-26 New King James Version (NKJV)
7 “Who is this coming up like a flood,
Whose waters move like the rivers?
8 Egypt rises up like a flood,
And its waters move like the rivers;
And he says, ‘I will go up and cover the earth,
I will destroy the city and its inhabitants.’
9 Come up, O horses, and rage, O chariots!
And let the mighty men come forth:
The Ethiopians and the Libyans who handle the shield,
And the Lydians who handle and bend the bow.
10 For this is the day of the Lord God of hosts,
A day of vengeance,
That He may avenge Himself on His adversaries.
The sword shall devour;
It shall be satiated and made drunk with their blood;
For the Lord God of hosts has a sacrifice
In the north country by the River Euphrates.

11 “Go up to Gilead and take balm,
O virgin, the daughter of Egypt;
In vain you will use many medicines;
You shall not be cured.
12 The nations have heard of your shame,
And your cry has filled the land;
For the mighty man has stumbled against the mighty;
They both have fallen together.”

Babylonia Will Strike Egypt
13 The word that the Lord spoke to Jeremiah the prophet, how Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon would come and strike the land of Egypt.

14 “Declare in Egypt, and proclaim in Migdol;
Proclaim in Nopha and in Tahpanhes;
Say, ‘Stand fast and prepare yourselves,
For the sword devours all around you.’
15 Why are your valiant men swept away?
They did not stand
Because the Lord drove them away.
16 He made many fall;
Yes, one fell upon another.
And they said, ‘Arise!
Let us go back to our own people
And to the land of our nativity
From the oppressing sword.’
17 They cried there,
‘Pharaoh, king of Egypt, is but a noise.
He has passed by the appointed time!’

18 “As I live,” says the King,
Whose name is the Lord of hosts,
“Surely as Tabor is among the mountains
And as Carmel by the sea, so he shall come.
19 O you daughter dwelling in Egypt,
Prepare yourself to go into captivity!
For Noph shall be waste and desolate, without inhabitant.

20 “Egypt is a very pretty heifer,
But destruction comes, it comes from the north.
21 Also her mercenaries are in her midst like fat bulls,
For they also are turned back,
They have fled away together.
They did not stand,
For the day of their calamity had come upon them,
The time of their punishment.
22 Her noise shall go like a serpent,
For they shall march with an army
And come against her with axes,
Like those who chop wood.

23 “They shall cut down her forest,” says the Lord,
“Though it cannot be searched,
Because they are innumerable,
And more numerous than grasshoppers.
24 The daughter of Egypt shall be ashamed;
She shall be delivered into the hand
Of the people of the north.”

25 The Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, says: “Behold, I will bring punishment on Amon and Pharaoh and Egypt, with their gods and their kings—Pharaoh and those who trust in him. 26 And I will deliver them into the hand of those who seek their lives, into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon and the hand of his servants. Afterward it shall be inhabited as in the days of old,” says the Lord.


Isaiah 11:15-16 New King James Version (NKJV)
15 The Lord will utterly destroy the tongue of the Sea of Egypt;
With His mighty wind He will shake His fist over the River,

And strike it in the seven streams,
And make men cross over dry-shod.
16 There will be a highway for the remnant of His people
Who will be left from Assyria,
As it was for Israel
In the day that he came up from the land of Egypt.










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That prophecy is specifically about when Babylon defeated Egypt. Jeremiah 46:2
It uses allegory: Like a flood....Egypt rising like the Nile.....Quite different from the other, unfulfilled prophesies that clearly say the Nile will dry up and Egypt will be totally evacuated for 40 years.
Why can't you see the truth of what will happen?
 
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or by your proposed CME will reset our civilisation ....to the point that you will be unable to take a plane to go in the Holy Land as you hope until many years after the 6 th seal events, because of the destruction of the airports caused by the big worldwide earthquake and also because of the destruction of the GPS satellites and the other mean of communication essential for airspace navigation like radars.
This shows, rather sadly, your lack of knowledge of God's plans for His people.
Required reading: Isaiah 66:18-21, Psalms 107:1-43, Zechariah 8:7-8, Zechariah 10:8-10, Jeremiah 31:8-9, Isaiah 60:4-12 and many other prophesies telling how the Lord's people will be transported by various means into all of the holy Land, soon after the Day of cloud and darkness. Ezekiel 34:11-12
 
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Be aware that there will be no gathering of the Saints /resurrected and for those still alive/ in the Holy Land until the Coming of Jesus after the Tribulation.
Your opinion, but not what the Bible tells us.
Revelation 7:1-17 tells us about events on earth soon after the Sixth Seal. People from every tribe, race, nation and language are gathered in the holy Land as we know from the first 3 verses of Rev 7 and from Revelation 14:1.
2 Thessalonians 1:10 proves that Jesus will be revealed to His own before His Return. Other scriptures confirm this: Jeremiah 30:21, Isaiah 24:23, Ezekiel 20:35
 
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That prophecy is specifically about when Babylon defeated Egypt. Jeremiah 46:2
It uses allegory: Like a flood....Egypt rising like the Nile.....


Keras, you're just not getting this. Either that or you just refuse to acknowledge what's clearly written in the bible while promoting your own theologies. Jeremiah is figuratively prophesying Egypt comparing it to the Nile because that's what had happened to Nile. After the dam gets destroyed, the Nile in Egypt will rise and flood it's cities.

Think Keras think! How can Jeremiah write the prophecy like this when Isaiah said the Nile will dry up?

Read what it said in Ezekiel 29:10. God is against Egypt and the Nile river. He will make the land desolate from Egypt down pass Aswan into as far south as Ethiopia. Do you know what God is telling us? If God is against the Nile, you can bet the dam will be destroy. How else can Aswan be desolate? And when the dam gets destroyed, you can count on a huge flood flowing into Egypt.

Ezekiel 29:10 Good News Translation (GNT)
I am your enemy and the enemy of your Nile. I will make all of Egypt an empty wasteland, from the city of Migdol in the north to the city of Aswan in the south, all the way to the Ethiopian border.

Ezekiel 29:10 New King James Version (NKJV)
Indeed, therefore, I am against you and against your rivers, and I will make the land of Egypt utterly waste and desolate, from Migdol to Syene, as far as the border of Ethiopia.

Quite different from the other, unfulfilled prophesies that clearly say the Nile will dry up and Egypt will be totally evacuated for 40 years.
Why can't you see the truth of what will happen?

No, the Nile has already been drying up. The real question is "why can't YOU see the truth of what's already happened?"

October 7, 2012
Nile's drying waterways stall Egypt's growth
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/10/201210711481252359.html










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I started looking for the video a few days ago after reading your post as I wanted to see for myself too. I couldn't find the video with Avi Lipkin in it but instead found a recent video by Gary Stearman about the Aswan dam. It's an interesting video and they've also said nothing can destroy the dam except a nuclear explosion. The result of it will cause a massive flooding into the land of Egypt bringing forth radioactive contamination.

https://prophecywatchers.com/videos/gary-stearman-the-nuclear-destruction-of-egypt/

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Thanks. I will watch this.
 
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Psalm3704, why argue about how Egypt and the Nile will be desolated?
The prophecy of Ezekiel 30:1-9 awaits fulfilment. Sounds like a very nasty outcome for them, however it happens.
Note that Ezekiel 30:5, says all the Arab lands will fall by the Sword of the Lord. [NOT a mans war, or a nuke]
Note also in verse 8, that the Lord will set a fire in Egypt, a fire that will destroy them and the nations who support Egypt.
Ezekiel 30:10-11 switches back to ancient times, when Babylon conquered Egypt.
 
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This shows, rather sadly, your lack of knowledge of God's plans for His people.
Required reading: Isaiah 66:18-21, Psalms 107:1-43, Zechariah 8:7-8, Zechariah 10:8-10, Jeremiah 31:8-9, Isaiah 60:4-12 and many other prophesies telling how the Lord's people will be transported by various means into all of the holy Land, soon after the Day of cloud and darkness. Ezekiel 34:11-12
All nice, but how and when do you expect to go there after the DESTRUCTION described to happen at the opening of the 6Th Seal ?Do you believe that the airports around the world will be miraculously protected ?
 
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Your opinion, but not what the Bible tells us.
Revelation 7:1-17 tells us about events on earth soon after the Sixth Seal. People from every tribe, race, nation and language are gathered in the holy Land as we know from the first 3 verses of Rev 7 and from Revelation 14:1.
2 Thessalonians 1:10 proves that Jesus will be revealed to His own before His Return. Other scriptures confirm this: Jeremiah 30:21, Isaiah 24:23, Ezekiel 20:35
The prophecies in the Book of Revelation about the 144,000 sealed have nothing to do with the gathering of the Saints/Elect.Do you expect to be among the 144,000? If no, then you will have to wait the Coming of Jesus AFTER the Tribulation~Matthew 24:29-31 mention the gathering of the Saints/Elect...These are Jesus' words not mine.
 
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All nice, but how and when do you expect to go there after the DESTRUCTION described to happen at the opening of the 6Th Seal ?Do you believe that the airports around the world will be miraculously protected ?
Isaiah 60:8-9 is an interesting prophecy. Who are these who fly along like clouds, that fly like doves to their dovecote. Vessels will assemble in the coasts and islands .....bringing your children from far away.......
Isaiah 49:12, Jeremiah 30:10-11, Isaiah 24:14-16, Psalms 68:7-10 and many more confirm this great migration into all of the holy Land. Look forward to it!
The prophecies in the Book of Revelation about the 144,000 sealed have nothing to do with the gathering of the Saints/Elect
Quite right, they don't. The gathering of the saints, dead and alive happens at the Return. What I am pointing out is the gathering of believers. You and me.
Do you expect to be among the 144,000?
No, because I am a married man with children.
 
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Psalm3704, why argue about how Egypt and the Nile will be desolated?

Well that kinda happened like this. I wrote the post below addressing it to Handmaid in post#84.

I started looking for the video a few days ago after reading your post as I wanted to see for myself too. I couldn't find the video with Avi Lipkin in it but instead found a recent video by Gary Stearman about the Aswan dam. It's an interesting video and they've also said nothing can destroy the dam except a nuclear explosion. The result of it will cause a massive flooding into the land of Egypt bringing forth radioactive contamination.

https://prophecywatchers.com/videos/gary-stearman-the-nuclear-destruction-of-egypt/

You quoted me with the post below in post#86. Seems like you initiated it. Though it might not be what you wanted to hear, I'm just replying with how I see the prophecy will play out in the bible.

But the prophesies do not tell of flooding. They say the Nile will dry up.
People seem fixated on nukes, they aren't what we are told will happen; earthquakes are.











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I started looking for the video a few days ago after reading your post as I wanted to see for myself too. I couldn't find the video with Avi Lipkin in it but instead found a recent video by Gary Stearman about the Aswan dam. It's an interesting video and they've also said nothing can destroy the dam except a nuclear explosion. The result of it will cause a massive flooding into the land of Egypt bringing forth radioactive contamination.

https://prophecywatchers.com/videos/gary-stearman-the-nuclear-destruction-of-egypt/






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That was very interesting video talk. Do you think the dam could be the dragon in the river that the prophecy speaks of?
 
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You quoted me with the post below in post#86. Seems like you initiated it. Though it might not be what you wanted to hear, I'm just replying with how I see the prophecy will play out in the bible.
What I want to hear, read and understand, is the truth of Bible prophecy, not nonsense about a nuke war and flooding.
Isaiah 19:5 The waters of the Nile will vanish, the river bed will become parched and dry.
Ezekiel 29:8-12 My Sword will destroy both people and animals. Egypt will become a desolate wasteland...for 40 years....
Ezekiel 30:12 I shall turn the Nile into dry land.....
Zechariah 10:11 My people will pass thru Egypt and the depths of the Nile will become dry.....
 
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