Syrian Christian leader tells West: 'Stop arming terror groups who are massacring our people'

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Or we reconsider our relationship with the Gulf States who are sponsoring this civil war and with our 2 faced Turkish ally who is more interested in murdering Kurds than peace!
You'll need to get the arms manufacturers who fund our governments to agree to that. Good luck.
 
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LoveBeingAMuslimMan the only people being killed by the Syrian government forces are islamists.
That is completely false. Perhaps you missed how it was Assad's killing of civilians that sparked this entire debacle.

I can't believe some of the posts here. Just because you don't support one tyrant doesn't mean you support another.
 
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That is completely false. Perhaps you missed how it was Assad's killing of civilians that sparked this entire debacle.

I can't believe some of the posts here. Just because you don't support one tyrant doesn't mean you support another.

Assads killing of civilians protesting peacefully against his regime was the brutal response of a leader fully aware of what the Arab Spring had achieved in other countries. The wave of dissatisfaction that was at the root of the Arab Spring is understandable to anyone who knows about these cultures. However its fruit has largely been deeply unsatisfying and even counter productive.

The main reason for this is the radicalisation of rebel instincts and a close alignment with Salafist Jihaddi ideals that simply do not work in practice.

Maybe there was a small window of opportunity to get rid of Assad and replace him with something better at the beginning of this conflict. But it would have required Western intervention to secure and as in Libya would probably have led to the country being worse off in the aftermath because the radical Islamists would ultimately have taken control of that revolution also. The instability in Syria basically originates in a revolution against Assads rule which is now ,with the exception of the Kurdish element ,mainly hijacked by Islamists. Islamist regimes do not work for anyone and if you had met people who had escaped them you would know the fear and desperation that they breed even amongst their footsoldiers. Assad is definitely no saint but this is not a time to sit on the fence. He is the better of 2 evils and the most likely to restore peace to the country.

That said I would like to see the Iraqi Kurds gain their own state and the Syrian Kurds to be able to link in with that new Kurdistan.

But the real problem here is a crisis of leadership. The Wests interventions in the region have not been helpful and the local rulers are playing self interested power politics with little regard for the bigger picture.

We need Turkey and the Gulf States to be brought in line and to stop sowing the seeds of instability, an independent Kurdistan and the utter destruction of IS.
 
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Okay, don't admit to being wrong about the article or your incorrect analysis of me. Keep following me around the forum (like you have been for the past 2-3 years) and make false accusations and interpretations. It just serves to amuse me as does the disparity between your tagline and your behavior.
Hey man stop taking posts personally. Calm down man.
 
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You're supporting Assad and his allies even though they are worse than ISIS can dream of being. Assad/allies commit genocide and you support them. That's all there is to it.

For good reason, and Assad is nowhere near as bad as FSA/ISIS. The OP was about the fate of Syrian Christians; Assad protects Christians and other religious minorites, ISIS slaughters them. I revived this thread because the government's retaking of Palmyra confirmed what I said earlier about Russia being the country that would help Syria through this mess. The town is a UNESCO World Heritage site, and Assad protected the archaeological treasures there, whearas ISIS desecrated them. You've made much of the government killing more people than the rebels have. I see this a good sign. The day the rebels are killing more people than the government is the day Syria is really screwed. See, I don't just compare what the government has done with what the rebels have done, I also take into account what, as evidenced by their behavior, the rebels would do if they could. That's the point of my signature quote; be careful about being to quick to sympathize with people simply because they are oppressed - many of them would be terrible oppressors if it were within their power to do so.

I anticipated, before we even went into Iraq, that the overthrow of Saddam Heussein would be likely to create a political vacuum that would ultimately be filled by something worse. Not only did this occur, but the contagion spread to Syria. Now you would have the Western powers work to destabilize another secular Arab nationalist regime, which is now the only thing standing in the way of ISIS domination of the Levant? We've already seen from Iraq where that road leads. I'm aware of Assad's cruelty. That doesn't mean I'm naive about what will likely happen to Syria if he falls..
 
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For good reason, and Assad is nowhere near as bad as FSA/ISIS. The OP was about the fate of Syrian Christians; Assad protects Christians and other religious minorites, ISIS slaughters them.

I'm pretty sure most if not all of us could agree that ISIS is worse. But really I keep hoping someone else more reasonable beats them both, but I don't have my hopes up.
 
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We, the people of Palmyra, consider both Isis and Assad to be criminals....

Palmyra has not been liberated. It has just been transferred from one tyranny to another.

Our message to the West and to the international community is this: don’t act as though you are blind to Assad’s crimes. As you penalise Isis, you must penalise Assad's regime in equal measure. He is the essence of the problem in Syria - and both him and Isis are the enemies of normal Syrian people.


I'm from Palmyra, and can tell you – the Assad regime is no better than Isis

According to the Syrian Observatory, only ~100 civilians remained in Palmyra when it was retaken by Assad.
 
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