Trump protesters block Ariz. road to keep candidate away from rally

Sophrosyne said:

Personally I think that civil lawsuits should happen and all the people who were illegally trapped by this blockade should sue in court this group of people and then after it gets out that if you participate in this type of action you could be paying through the nose for the next 10 years of your life it may dissuade many to think twice before doing so...

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I wonder if any of these people that were illegally trapped would consider that. Maybe your post will pop if they do a keyword search to see if they're in the news. And that will plant the seed.

I recall back when there were protests in Ferguson and other places and it got out that these were professional protesters hired to light the match on the racial tensions already in play. I can't help but think the same thing is happening in the case of Trump rallies.

The media focuses on that fringe that goes off and that then makes it look like Trump's rhetoric is causing the upset among a handful of violent minded protesters. And that then gives voters the impression of what a nation would be like were Trump to be in the White house.

And I really don't put it past Sander's campaign, as Trump has charged, to be responsible for this. Or maybe even Hillary's.

In any case this Arizona blockade was something the participants should be ashamed of for the rest of their lives. And especially if they were hired to act the role.

And those near Trump Towers. Can we even begin to imagine what it will be like at the polls in November when people are thought to be trying to get in to vote for Trump? When this is happening at rallies designed to promote him now.

God have mercy.

PsychoeDial said:

I wonder if any of these people that were illegally trapped would consider that. Maybe your post will pop if they do a keyword search to see if they're in the news. And that will plant the seed.

I recall back when there were protests in Ferguson and other places and it got out that these were professional protesters hired to light the match on the racial tensions already in play. I can't help but think the same thing is happening in the case of Trump rallies.

The media focuses on that fringe that goes off and that then makes it look like Trump's rhetoric is causing the upset among a handful of violent minded protesters. And that then gives voters the impression of what a nation would be like were Trump to be in the White house.

And I really don't put it past Sander's campaign, as Trump has charged, to be responsible for this. Or maybe even Hillary's.

In any case this Arizona blockade was something the participants should be ashamed of for the rest of their lives. And especially if they were hired to act the role.

And those near Trump Towers. Can we even begin to imagine what it will be like at the polls in November when people are thought to be trying to get in to vote for Trump? When this is happening at rallies designed to promote him now.

God have mercy.

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If there are illegal protests in proximity to voting areas they will be dealt with immediately even if the national guard has to be called out and riot gear has to be donned and people have to be pummeled if they don't move out to a required distance and file for permits to protest.
All these "tantrums" thrown at Trump may have the opposite affect for him in that the more and more people see Trump is being targeted by every dirty trick in the book and by unscrupulous ill mannered people they may be fine with excusing his obnoxiousness realizing that if he is against such folks and they may consider an old saying "an enemy of my enemy is my friend" and decide to vote for him.
If a politician isn't in the news sometimes people may forget about them entirely because nobody is talking about them.

One Voice Among Many said:

Well, to be honest, I would much rather be "one of those" and be a bleeding heart liberal than to be like that toward my fellow man. And it is truly perplexing how many conservatives will chant "ALL LIVES MATTER" but then they turn around and support Donald Trump who says protesters should be punched in the face, roughed up, and carried away on stretchers. And then we have the people who say these protesters from BLM should be ran over by cars. I guess not all lives matters after all.

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I wonder what people who think protesters deserve to be beaten up would say if that happened to pro-life protesters in front of an abortion clinic. I could just imagine the outrage! People would scream that Christians were being persecuted for protesting abortion. But if protesters deserve to be beaten up for disruption (and many times they do try to talk women out of going in, which is a disruption of the business that they are protesting). I don't believe that it is right to hurt protesters. They do have the right to free speech and the freedom of assembly. Also, when did Christ tell us that it is okay to beat people up or kill people because they are doing something that we don't like. I must have missed the part that if people were doing something we don't like, we should just beat them up or shoot them.

And yet Bill Clinton wasn't arrested in Massachusetts when he violated voting laws by walking into the Newton Free Library on super Tuesday.


“Secretary of the Commonwealth’s voting regulations:
....Within 150 feet of a polling place…no person shall solicit votes for or against, or otherwise promote or oppose, any person or political party or position on a ballot question, to be voted on at the current election..."
Excerpted from Source http://www.mass.gov/courts/docs/lawlib/900-999cmr/950cmr53.pdf

One has to wonder how things will go come November. Yes, all manner of law enforcement should act to protect any voting location. I just wonder if Bill wasn't invested in this stunt to give the Democrats ideas for that very day come November.
In fact, Trump thinks it is Sander's who's hiring the professional chaos makers to act up at Trump rallies. I wonder if it isn't the Clinton machine doing so too. Or instead of it being Sander's what with this stunt Bill himself pulled in the common wealth.

Our democracy is getting some very strange characters to show their faces now days.

Sistrin said:

Another false equivalency.

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It isn't a false equivalency at all. Trump has his supporters doing his dirty work of shutting up protesters by beating them up, just like Manson had his followers murder people on his behalf by getting them stirred up.

katherine2001 said:

It isn't a false equivalency at all. Trump has his supporters doing his dirty work of shutting up protesters by beating them up...

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And they have done a marvelous job with that:

Trump protesters clash, rush door

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...anchez-lklv.cnn/video/playlists/donald-trump/

katherine2001 said:

...just like Manson had his followers murder people on his behalf by getting them stirred up.

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I suggest you do a bit of research into who and what Manson actually was. To compare the two is, again, inane, disingenuous, and seriously flawed.

katherine2001 said:

It isn't a false equivalency at all. Trump has his supporters doing his dirty work of shutting up protesters by beating them up, just like Manson had his followers murder people on his behalf by getting them stirred up.

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No, it is a false equivalence. Just as is the obscene falsity of invoking brown shirts into the Trump campaign.

If it's true one doesn't have to manufacture lies to report on a candidate of any party and the wrong doing that is alleged against them.

katherine2001 said:

It isn't a false equivalency at all. Trump has his supporters doing his dirty work of shutting up protesters by beating them up, just like Manson had his followers murder people on his behalf by getting them stirred up.

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You forgot to include the Devil and Adolf Hitler in your fantasy, but really, all that this kind of nonsense does is make people think twice about believing what the spokesmen for the Bernie Brigades say in defense of their actions.

JustOneWay said:

People in Phoenix know exactly why they are protesting. They knew since Trump's presidential run speech. Trump is reaping what he has sewn.

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"I mean why would she even be out that late?"

Hank77 said:

Besides that we are going to threaten people that if they protest they will be sued? Not all those people were blocking the roadway, so they should be punished for the actions of others because they were there, independently exercising their right to freedom of speech? I don't think that would be a good message to send.

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I don't think it's about the protest, it's about the method. And I don't really have a problem with people who were caught up in the jam being compensated, even if the amount would be small.

They could have stood by the side of the highway and protested all they wanted, but instead they chose to inconvenience thousands and cost them time and money - why shouldn't they be compensated?

I just love the anti trump people, they are just so much fun to read.

TerranceL said:

"I mean why would she even be out that late?"

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Are you really comparing Trump's personal responsibility for his own words and actions to blaming a woman for being raped? Because if you are, that is about as shallow as a man can get. Donald Trump is not a victim in any form or fashion. He is reaping what he has sown. He has sown hatred and now he is reaping hatred. He has sown violence and now he is reaping violence. He has repeatedly incited violence against people who oppose him and protest against him. However, a woman who was raped is a victim, but to compare a rape victim to the opposition against Trump is reprehensible. It is truly shameful that anyone would have the nerve to make such a comparison.

JustOneWay said:

People in Phoenix know exactly why they are protesting. They knew since Trump's presidential run speech. Trump is reaping what he has sewn.

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I am not quite sure why some people are surprised that Trump is receiving all of this negative reactions to his fear mongering speeches. It is a very simple concept, in fact, it is the biblical concept of reaping and sowing. He has continuously sown hate and now he is reaping hate. He has repeatedly sown violence by inciting violence and now he is reaping the consequences from doing that too. It is not that difficult of a concept to understand, but some people still seem to struggle to understand it and accept it.

Sophrosyne said:

Personally I think that civil lawsuits should happen and all the people who were illegally trapped by this blockade should sue in court this group of people and then after it gets out that if you participate in this type of action you could be paying through the nose for the next 10 years of your life it may dissuade many to think twice before doing so...

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It would imagine it easy to find out who the suits should go against in this case. Those who were arrested for the blockade with their personal vehicles, and police would have likely taken names of those who physically blocked the way making a human wall.
As to the source for all this, the "Dump Trump" sign on the one vehicle in the picture may be linked to Eve Ensler. She set off the, stop the hate dump Trump, campaign for the celebrity types.
Follow the money typically helps in situations like this. My concern is when disrupters of that nature, and Trump had it right when he tagged them as that rather than as protesters, aren't beyond pulling something like this at the polls. Or worse for the most unstable among them who may think the best way to stop Trump is to take Trump out.
His son has already been targeted by the lunatic fringe like unto those in this blockade. Who's next?

One Voice Among Many said:

Are you really comparing Trump's personal responsibility for his own words and actions to blaming a woman for being raped? Because if you are, that is about as shallow as a man can get. Donald Trump is not a victim in any form or fashion. He is reaping what he has sown. He has sown hatred and now he is reaping hatred. He has sown violence and now he is reaping violence. He has repeatedly incited violence against people who oppose him and protest against him. However, a woman who was raped is a victim, but to compare a rape victim to the opposition against Trump is reprehensible. It is truly shameful that anyone would have the nerve to make such a comparison.

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I'm glad you are saying that if you agree with the idea that if you don't like words you can react to the violently. Thanks for the confirmation. Also you are saying that you cannot defend yourself against violence, which is what Donald Trump has bee saying. Don't you agree that President Obama used violent rhetoric in 2008 when he said, if they bring knives we bring guns.

One Voice Among Many said:

I am not quite sure why some people are surprised that Trump is receiving all of this negative reactions to his fear mongering speeches. It is a very simple concept, in fact, it is the biblical concept of reaping and sowing. He has continuously sown hate and now he is reaping hate. He has repeatedly sown violence by inciting violence and now he is reaping the consequences from doing that too. It is not that difficult of a concept to understand, but some people still seem to struggle to understand it and accept it.

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Indeed. The post below is a fine example of not understanding that simple concept, then blaming whatever it is on 'progressives'....

There comes a time when dialog stops simply because some are beyond reach.

nightflight said:

Progressives think everyone who disagrees with them is motivated by "hate". Its a meaningless term at this point.

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One Voice Among Many said:

Are you really comparing Trump's personal responsibility for his own words and actions to blaming a woman for being raped? Because if you are, that is about as shallow as a man can get. Donald Trump is not a victim in any form or fashion. He is reaping what he has sown. He has sown hatred and now he is reaping hatred. He has sown violence and now he is reaping violence. He has repeatedly incited violence against people who oppose him and protest against him. However, a woman who was raped is a victim, but to compare a rape victim to the opposition against Trump is reprehensible. It is truly shameful that anyone would have the nerve to make such a comparison.

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Yes, yes, yes, it's all the big bad Trumps fault. These morons have no actual responsibility for their own actions, no. They are just fools dancing to Trumps tune....

Apparently when Trump speaks progressives lose all agency and become morons.

Sorry but no. Despite what Trump may have said, these protestors are completely and totally responsible for their own actions.

To say, "TRUMP MADE EM DO IT!" is just victim blaming. So despite your pontificating, you are happily standing on the side of the people who wonder why a rape victim was out too late, why she was wearing what she was wearing and why she was out alone.

Instead of looking at the ugliness of progressives you seek to deflect it onto the person who in this case is the victim.

One Voice Among Many said:

I am not quite sure why some people are surprised that Trump is receiving all of this negative reactions to his fear mongering speeches.

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Because nobody really expected progressives to violate the law.