Trump supporters, protesters clash after Chicago rally postponed

AndreLinoge said:

Cowboy was playing the knockout game. I guess its another example of cultural appropriation by white people.

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What a lovely piece of racism! As I recall whites started that game:

http://thephoenix.com/boston/news/87700-punch-that-took-two-lives/

TravelerFarAwayFromHome said:

honestly, I think there many who support Sanders who aren't a Democrat

Bernie message really resonates with many across the political spectrum.

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Not 'across the political spectrum.' I don't know any conservatives who like him. But I think they are plenty of leftists, normally too far left for the Democrats, who support him.

smaneck said:

They didn't go after him, they went after the City Council.

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Now you are just quibbling.

Sistrin said:

Now you are just quibbling.

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Quibbling because I don't think complaining to the city council constitutes thuggery towards a Boy Scout?

smaneck said:

What a lovely piece of racism! As I recall whites started that game:

http://thephoenix.com/boston/news/87700-punch-that-took-two-lives/

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Making fun of "cultural appropriation" thing is not racism.

AndreLinoge said:

Making fun of "cultural appropriation" thing is not racism.

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No, what's racist is claiming a particular act is cultural, especially when such an act is a result of fabricated and exaggerated rumors.

Ah, my feet are so warm. Thanks!

SummerMadness said:

No, what's racist is claiming a particular act is cultural, especially when such an act is a result of fabricated and exaggerated rumors.

Ah, my feet are so warm. Thanks!

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Race is just a social construct. It doesn't exist. As for the knockout game, even Al Sharpton acknowledged its a "thing".

http://nypost.com/2013/11/23/al-sharpton-condemns-knockout-attacks/

GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta said:

You must be a buffoon not to realize that her supporters only turned on the camera AFTER her prevocational tactics. She then wants to act like a victim.

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I don't care if she walked in there and called everyone's mother a harlot. Unless you pose bodily harm to another person, you do not lay hands on them. Period. And what sort of men go around shoving and hitting women, anyway?

I went to a Trump rally and there were many blacks there and NO ONE was treated with disrespect.

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Tokens, naturally. Look at how every election goes. The right makes a big show of not being racist by parading out their candidates of color, but how many of them make it past the primaries? None. Zero. Nary a one of them. I actually recently saw a Trump supporter on social media ask a Cruz supporter why he was "supporting the Mexican". The right loves to make a big show about how "Democrats are the ones who started the KKK", but when the chips are down people of color cannot even get close to general election, and the most racist troll of the bunch is leading in the polls.

You also don't seem to realize that these are all RECENT, and that these altercations could be the work of people looking to take down Trump by claiming that his supporters are violent, all the while they're plants in the crowd.

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Even if they are plants, the Donald's fans are certainly proving the point with their reactions.

DLR said:

Everyone agrees you have the right to protest. But do you have the right to enter an auditorium rented by a candidate and disrupt it to the point they can not deliver their message? I'm guessing no because they seem to remove protesters promptly. Surely this has been litigated.

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While free speech is limited to certain areas, people still keep missing the point. Regardless of whether or not their speech is welcome, legal, warranted, or appreciated if they are not becoming violent, it's unsavory for Trump fans to jump them like they do. What sort of justification do they have for spitting on women, or calling them the n-word, even if they are simply agitators?

Landon Caeli said:

Stupid people do stupid things, such as Thomas Dimassmo proves. The left actively promotes lawlessness, it's why their progressive following takes to breaking the law when things don't go their way. It's a problem that stems from the top down straight from Obama.

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The left advocates lawlessness? No, we advocate civil disobedience, which gets ish done. Rosa Parks, Dr. King, Medgar Evers, et. al.

Tokens, naturally.

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Certainly not human beings who have opinions that differ from your own. Good grief, check your racist thinking!

nightflight said:

Certainly not human beings who have opinions that differ from your own. Good grief, check your racist thinking!

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They're not tokens because their opinions differ from my own. I, personally, don't care who people of color vote for. For many white folks on the right, they are tokens. Just like Hispanics aren't good enough to be allowed on this side of Donald Trump's fabled wall...unless they're cleaning his pools or polishing his silver. Then it's okay. Minorities are not a welcomed addition to the right side of politics *unless* they have completely assimilated to white culture. Let a black man who looks like Lil Wayne walk into a Trump rally. I don't care if he has donated millions to Trump's campaign, the whitewashed masses will automatically peg him suspect and treat him accordingly.

They're not tokens because their opinions differ from my own. I, personally, don't care who people of color vote for.

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You sure seem to from your earlier post.

For many white folks on the right, they are tokens. Just like Hispanics aren't good enough to be allowed on this side of Donald Trump's fabled wall...unless they're cleaning his pools or polishing his silver.

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Tire old canard.

Minorities are not a welcomed addition to the right side of politics *unless* they have completely assimilated to white culture.

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What, do tell is "white culture"?

Let a black man who looks like Lil Wayne walk into a Trump rally. I don't care if he has donated millions to Trump's campaign, the whitewashed masses will automatically peg him suspect and treat him accordingly.

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Let a man is happens to not be white have views that differ from the progressive Narrative and said progressives unleash a fury of insulting epithets.

Perhaps instead of seeing certain ethnicities as a monolith you consider that maybe individuals can have different opinions. Even if they don't fit into your narrow boxes.

AndreLinoge said:

Race is just a social construct. It doesn't exist. As for the knockout game, even Al Sharpton acknowledged its a "thing".

http://nypost.com/2013/11/23/al-sharpton-condemns-knockout-attacks/

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Racism is a social construct, but racism is real. It's similar to a national border. You're confusing the biology of race, which is not real, with the actions within societies and governments that uses skin color as a basis for marginalizing a group.

If the knockout game was a "thing," you would be able to support this with data. By all means, please show us the trend, not quotes from people responding to sensationalized news. Remember, data. If there was an epidemic, it would bear out in the data, else it's nothing more than a racist pipe dream. The next part is linking that racist pipe dream to culture, but we all know where this is going...

nightflight said:

What, do tell is "white culture"?

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Don't you know? White culture is Caucasians, just not the ones that we don't consider white. Or it's Western Culture, except for the the non-white Westerners. It's Europe, except not all whites are European...

It's a culture formed in American society that used skin color as a basis for determining legal protections, economic status, and access to education. White culture is all about what is white versus what is not white. This why the one-drop rule exists in the United States. Skin color classification is important because purity is essential to determining whiteness.

Don't you know? White culture is Caucasians, just not the ones that we don't consider white. Or it's Western Culture, except for the the non-white Westerners. It's Europe, except not all whites are European...

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I guess for progressives, its whatever it needs to be in a given moment.

It's a culture formed in American society that used skin color as a basis for determining legal protections, economic status, and access to education. White culture is all about what is white versus what is not white. This why the one-drop rule exists in the United States. Skin color classification is important because purity is essential to determining whitenes.

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White people need to check themselves so others can flourish.

If the knockout game was a "thing," you would be able to support this with data. By all means, please show us the trend, not quotes from people responding to sensationalized news. Remember, data. If there was an epidemic, it would bear out in the data, else it's nothing more than a racist pipe dream. The next part is linking that racist pipe dream to culture, but we all know where this is going...

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I thought crime statistics were bollocks? But as mentioned earlier, even Al Sharpton (Al Sharpton!) as posted above knows the knockout game is real: “It is an alarming trend that is spurring outrageous incidents across the country. It is deplorable, reprehensible and inexcusable. It is insane thuggery, and it is unequivocally wrong,” “We would not be silent if it were the other way around, and we will not be silent now. This behavior is racist, period.”

nightflight said:

I guess for progressives, its whatever it needs to be in a given moment.

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Just repeating the various definitions attempted in another thread. Culture is a well-defined term, hence the multiple definitions are funny, as the main goal is to decouple "white culture" from racism, with a lot of contortion following.

nightflight said:

I thought crime statistics were bollocks?

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As I said, show us the trend of random assaults connected to a knockout game. Better yet, create a new thread on this trend instead of encouraging a racist derail.

SummerMadness said:

Just repeating the various definitions attempted in another thread. Culture is a well-defined term, hence the multiple definitions are funny, as the main goal is to decouple "white culture" from racism, with a lot of contortion following.

As I said, show us the trend of random assaults connected to a knockout game. Better yet, create a new thread on this trend instead of encouraging a racist derail.

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Everything is racist. Funny too the demand for "statistics" when "hands up don't shoot" was accepted from the get go.

nightflight said:

I thought crime statistics were bollocks? But as mentioned earlier, even Al Sharpton (Al Sharpton!) as posted above knows the knockout game is real: “It is an alarming trend that is spurring outrageous incidents across the country. It is deplorable, reprehensible and inexcusable. It is insane thuggery, and it is unequivocally wrong,” “We would not be silent if it were the other way around, and we will not be silent now. This behavior is racist, period.”

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Al Sharpton said something, therefore it's a trend! That's not data. You don't need a person saying something is a trend or not for it to be a trend, you can use data to show it. So, as I asked, show the data supporting the trend.

AndreLinoge said:

Making fun of "cultural appropriation" thing is not racism.

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It is when the so-called appropriation is actually a racist lie.

nightflight said:

Everything is racist. Funny too the demand for "statistics" when "hands up don't shoot" was accepted from the get go.

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The knockout game was called a trend (i.e., multiple incidents), you should be able to demonstrate that with data, simple. As I said, show the data or just say you can't. It's quite simple.