For all eternity - "From Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before God to Worship"

BobRyan · Feb 12, 2016

BobRyan said: ↑
Is 66:23 "From new moon to new moon AND FROM Sabbath to Sabbath shall all MANKIND come before Me to worship"

The text is talking about - all eternity in the future.

1. The text says the new moon event -- and the Sabbath event will both continue - for all eternity.
2. The text says that all mankind (not just Jews) will come before the LORD to Worship on those TWO cycles.
3. What the "text says" matters to those of use going by the Bible.
4. The text points to the future as having both the Sabbath and the new moon.
5. It does not say "we wont have Sabbath or new moons in the New Earth" as some may have re-imagined the text.

YHWH's Lion said:
the point is that you can't cherry pick portions of the prophecy, the portions that line up with what your denomination has indoctrinated you with, and ignore portions that do not fit into your "idea" how the future will be after the return of Christ. We need to try to harmonize both the old testament descriptions of how things will be and the new testament descriptions.....

The point is you cannot ignore the details in the text - simply because you would prefer to "talk about something else".

BobRyan · Feb 12, 2016

LittleLambofJesus said:
It also doesn't say from Saturday to Saturday either....

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Is this the part where you make your case that Isaiah and his readers were "keeping Sunday" and that "nothing changed at the cross" in that regard??

Because if it is - I have yet to see you support such speculation with any sort of fact.

On the other hand - are you simply trying to say that you think Christ was keeping the wrong day of the week in the Gospels in places like Matt 5 - calling the wrong day "the Sabbath"? Or are you thinking that Isaiah had the "wrong day"??

Either way - you have not offered any argument in support of those options.

BobRyan · Feb 28, 2016

ok then... 3 simple questions.

For those inclined to be at war with God's Ten Commandments --3 simple questions...

Christ argues this point about the "WORD of GOD" the "Commandments of God" .

Mark 7

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the Commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the Commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Christ said "it is a big deal" in Mark 7

1. Question 1 -- In your view - is Christ in Error in Mark 7??

2. Question 2: Eph 6:2 "What unit of LAW" is being upheld by Paul in Eph 5:2 where the 5th commandment "is the FIRST commandment with a PROMISE"?... easy answer.

3. Question 3: Heb 8:6-10 NEW COVENANT "I will write My LAW on their heart and mind" Jer 31:31-33 ---> what LAW?

BobRyan · Feb 28, 2016

Sophrosyne said:
And Just as much on Sunday as the Sabbath

Until you read the actual Bible -

Is 66:23 "From new moon to new moon AND FROM Sabbath to Sabbath shall all MANKIND come before Me to worship"

TWO cycles - a weekly one AND a monthly one. So your speculation does not survive the details in the text.

Nor the fact that the Bible say 'From year to year" the annual feasts are celebrated - which also do NOT mean "every day continually" but rather it refers to a "yearly cycle".

bugkiller · Feb 28, 2016

Bob S said:
You have to be kidding. I believe I was the first one to mention verse 24 and even copied it for Bob's easy reading. He has taken a thought out of chapters 65 and 66 where Isaiah is for some reason, writing about the new earth, that we will, on Sabbath, walk around dead bodies and will live to be over 100. he is ignoring what the rest of those chapters are saying. Having to walk around dead bodies and only living to 100 in the new earth is not the new earth that we believe. We believe we will live eternally and former things will be forgotten. Why should we believe part of the story that we will all worship every new moon and every Sabbath? SDAs are taught cherry pick verses, some completely out of context. I remember those days of Bible marking all the "proof texts". Yep, I was convinced hook, line and sinker until I started studying for my self.

Great! I've been here along time.

bugkiller

bugkiller · Feb 28, 2016

Bob S said:
Bob, you are so adamant about Isaiah 66:23 From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me,” says the Lord. where Isaiah seems to be talking about the new earth and we have asked over and over for you to explain other things that Isaiah expresses about the new earth. The reason we doubt verse 23 is because of verse 24. If you are going to try to convince us from that verse what we will be doing in Heaven then why will you not try to convince us about verse 24 that causes us to doubt? Isaiah also tell us us in the new earth we will live to be over 100. Do you believe that also? Will you go out and walk among the dead after Sabbath service?

How about stopping the cut and paste routine and give us some thoughtful answers. Your church tells us it is the true church and has the key to scripture that those of us in Babylon are not privy to unless we join up, yet we get the same old stuff in every post. It is getting very boring and quite frankly I don't think you have anything else to offer.

I often wonder if he's not a paid spammer.

bugkiller

bugkiller · Feb 28, 2016

BobRyan said:
ok then... 3 simple questions.

For those inclined to be at war with God's Ten Commandments --3 simple questions...

Christ argues this point about the "WORD of GOD" the "Commandments of God" .

Mark 7

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the Commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the Commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Christ said "it is a big deal" in Mark 7

1. Question 1 -- In your view - is Christ in Error in Mark 7??

No. What does the Bible in this regard? Are the Psalms wrong? Is Isaiah wrong?

2. Question 2: Eph 6:2 "What unit of LAW" is being upheld by Paul in Eph 5:2 where the 5th commandment "is the FIRST commandment with a PROMISE"?... easy answer.

Do you mean by this the Christians is obligated to the law? How, in view of Rom 7:6 among maany others. Is it valid or not?

3. Question 3: Heb 8:6-10 NEW COVENANT "I will write My LAW on their heart and mind" Jer 31:31-33 ---> what LAW?

You should believe the rest of the sentence. Your meaning of the law here is the 10 Cs which aren't part of the NC according to 31 and 32.

bugkiller

bugkiller · Feb 28, 2016

BobRyan said:
Until you read the actual Bible -

Hey Bob this would be a great idea for you to consider yourself.

bugkiller

SAAN · Mar 1, 2016

Why do people fight the the Sabbath so much?
-Its the 4th command of the 10 C's that Christians post up on the walls and say should not be removed from courts.
-Its kept all through out the OT
-Its kept in the NT before Jesus Death
-It was kept by Jesus
-It was still being kept in the NT after the cross

BobRyan · Mar 2, 2016

bugkiller said:
Sorry but I don't know what you're tlking bout here and I even went back over the posts.
bugkiller

ok then... 3 simple questions.

For those inclined to be at war with God's Ten Commandments --3 simple questions...

Christ argues this point about the "WORD of GOD" the "Commandments of God" .

Mark 7

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the Commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the Commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Christ said "it is a big deal" in Mark 7

1. Question 1 -- In your view - is Christ in Error in Mark 7??

2. Question 2: Eph 6:2 "What unit of LAW" is being upheld by Paul in Eph 5:2 where the 5th commandment "is the FIRST commandment with a PROMISE"?... easy answer.

3. Question 3: Heb 8:6-10 NEW COVENANT "I will write My LAW on their heart and mind" Jer 31:31-33 ---> what LAW?

bugkiller said:
No. What does the Bible in this regard? Are the Psalms wrong? Is Isaiah wrong?Do you mean by this the Christians is obligated to the law? How, in view of Rom 7:6 among maany others. Is it valid or not?You should believe the rest of the sentence. Your meaning of the law here is the 10 Cs which aren't part of the NC according to 31 and 32.

bugkiller

Those 3 Questions still not answered BK??

I thought I saw a post by you that you finally did come up with an answer - where is it??

Or are you saying " Are the Psalms wrong?" is your answer to all the questions? (Should I add that as my 4th question?)

If so - there is a great deal in the Psalms that goes like this.

Psalm 1:2
But his delight is in the law of the Lord, And in His law he meditates day and night.

Psalm 19:7
The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul; The testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple;

Psalm 37:31
The law of his God is in his heart; None of his steps shall slide.

Psalm 40:8
I delight to do Your will, O my God, And Your law is within my heart.”

Psalm 78:1
[ God’s Kindness to Rebellious Israel ] [ A Contemplation of Asaph. ] Give ear, O my people, to my law; Incline your ears to the words of my mouth.

Psalm 78:5
For He established a testimony in Jacob, And appointed a law in Israel, Which He commanded our fathers, That they should make them known to their children;

Psalm 78:10
They did not keep the covenant of God; They refused to walk in His law,

Psalm 81:4
For this is a statute for Israel, A law of the God of Jacob.

Psalm 94:12
Blessed is the man whom You instruct, O Lord, And teach out of Your law,

Psalm 119:1
[ Meditations on the Excellencies of the Word of God ] [ א Aleph ] Blessed are the undefiled in the way, Who walk in the law of the Lord!

Psalm 119:18
Open my eyes, that I may see Wondrous things from Your law.

Psalm 119:29
Remove from me the way of lying, And grant me Your law graciously.

Psalm 119:34
Give me understanding, and I shall keep Your law; Indeed, I shall observe it with my whole heart.

Psalm 119:44
So shall I keep Your law continually, Forever and ever.

Psalm 119:51
The proud have me in great derision, Yet I do not turn aside from Your law.

Psalm 119:53
Indignation has taken hold of me Because of the wicked, who forsake Your law.

Psalm 119:55
I remember Your name in the night, O Lord, And I keep Your law.

Psalm 119:61
The cords of the wicked have bound me, But I have not forgotten Your law.

Psalm 119:70
Their heart is as fat as grease, But I delight in Your law.

Psalm 119:72
The law of Your mouth is better to me Than thousands of coins of gold and silver.

Psalm 119:77
Let Your tender mercies come to me, that I may live; For Your law is my delight.

bugkiller · Mar 2, 2016

BobRyan said:
ok then... 3 simple questions.

For those inclined to be at war with God's Ten Commandments --3 simple questions...

Christ argues this point about the "WORD of GOD" the "Commandments of God" .

Mark 7

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the Commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the Commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Christ said "it is a big deal" in Mark 7

1. Question 1 -- In your view - is Christ in Error in Mark 7??

2. Question 2: Eph 6:2 "What unit of LAW" is being upheld by Paul in Eph 5:2 where the 5th commandment "is the FIRST commandment with a PROMISE"?... easy answer.

3. Question 3: Heb 8:6-10 NEW COVENANT "I will write My LAW on their heart and mind" Jer 31:31-33 ---> what LAW?

Those 3 Questions still not answered BK??

I thought I saw a post by you that you finally did come up with an answer - where is it??

Or are you saying " Are the Psalms wrong?" is your answer to all the questions? (Should I add that as my 4th question?)

If so - there is a great deal in the Psalms that goes like this.

Psalm 1:2
But his delight is in the law of the Lord, And in His law he meditates day and night.

Psalm 19:7
The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul; The testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple;

Psalm 37:31
The law of his God is in his heart; None of his steps shall slide.

Psalm 40:8
I delight to do Your will, O my God, And Your law is within my heart.”

Psalm 78:1
[ God’s Kindness to Rebellious Israel ] [ A Contemplation of Asaph. ] Give ear, O my people, to my law; Incline your ears to the words of my mouth.

Psalm 78:5
For He established a testimony in Jacob, And appointed a law in Israel, Which He commanded our fathers, That they should make them known to their children;

Psalm 78:10
They did not keep the covenant of God; They refused to walk in His law,

Psalm 81:4
For this is a statute for Israel, A law of the God of Jacob.

Psalm 94:12
Blessed is the man whom You instruct, O Lord, And teach out of Your law,

Psalm 119:1
[ Meditations on the Excellencies of the Word of God ] [ א Aleph ] Blessed are the undefiled in the way, Who walk in the law of the Lord!

Psalm 119:18
Open my eyes, that I may see Wondrous things from Your law.

Psalm 119:29
Remove from me the way of lying, And grant me Your law graciously.

Psalm 119:34
Give me understanding, and I shall keep Your law; Indeed, I shall observe it with my whole heart.

Psalm 119:44
So shall I keep Your law continually, Forever and ever.

Psalm 119:51
The proud have me in great derision, Yet I do not turn aside from Your law.

Psalm 119:53
Indignation has taken hold of me Because of the wicked, who forsake Your law.

Psalm 119:55
I remember Your name in the night, O Lord, And I keep Your law.

Psalm 119:61
The cords of the wicked have bound me, But I have not forgotten Your law.

Psalm 119:70
Their heart is as fat as grease, But I delight in Your law.

Psalm 119:72
The law of Your mouth is better to me Than thousands of coins of gold and silver.

Psalm 119:77
Let Your tender mercies come to me, that I may live; For Your law is my delight.

Yes I asked if the Psalms were wrong. I'm referring to -

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Ps 14

You obviously missed this one for some unknown reason. Oh and I have at least one more you missed.

bugkiller

Sophrosyne · Mar 2, 2016

SAAN said:
Why do people fight the the Sabbath so much?
-Its the 4th command of the 10 C's that Christians post up on the walls and say should not be removed from courts.
-Its kept all through out the OT
-Its kept in the NT before Jesus Death
-It was kept by Jesus
-It was still being kept in the NT after the cross

They are ignorant of the Bible. Nobody here is fighting the Sabbath, we have no problems with you wishing to keep it,
the problem we have is when you demand everyone else keep a law that was never meant for Christians to keep.

Bob S · Mar 3, 2016

SAAN said:
Why do people fight the the Sabbath so much?
-Its the 4th command of the 10 C's that Christians post up on the walls and say should not be removed from courts.
-Its kept all through out the OT
-Its kept in the NT before Jesus Death
-It was kept by Jesus
-It was still being kept in the NT after the cross

Who is fighting Sabbath? Do what you want to do friend. We are debating if it is a command for new covenant Christians and the answer is a big NO. You and no other Sabbath promoter has proved that we are under the old covenant. You have not proved that any other nation was ever asked to observe a day by God. You have never proved that Jesus aver asked any gentile to observe Sabbath. I care less about your standard proof text that the Sabbath was made for man. If it were made for anyone else besides Jew man then prove it. Prove that God has ever asked us to observe a day. Lets get the truth out on the table once and for all.

Jesus kept the Sabbath because He was under the law he came to fulfill. There is no doubt that some observed the day after the Cross, but that does not prove that it is a command. The Sabbath command was a temporary command for the Israelites. When the covenant was broken and Jesus fulfilled the law the law with its Sabbath requirement went away. You cannot prove differently. It is impossible for a Christian who believes that all scripture is inspired to deny 2Cor3:7-11. Those verses should put the issue to rest. The problem is that you must not believe all scripture and someone has more power over you than the Holy Bible. To debate Christianity with someone that will not accept plain scripture is futile.

Bob S · Mar 3, 2016

BobRyan said:
ok then... 3 simple questions.

For those inclined to be at war with God's Ten Commandments --3 simple questions...

Christ argues this point about the "WORD of GOD" the "Commandments of God" .

Mark 7

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the Commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the Commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Christ said "it is a big deal" in Mark 7

1. Question 1 -- In your view - is Christ in Error in Mark 7??

No, but you believe Paul was in error when he tells us we are not under the commandments that Jesus was. Jesus even told us that He kept His Father's commandments and asked us to keep His. What commands did Jesus give us?

2. Question 2: Eph 6:2 "What unit of LAW" is being upheld by Paul in Eph 5:2 where the 5th commandment "is the FIRST commandment with a PROMISE"?... easy answer.

Very very easy, the Royal law of Love.

3. Question 3: Heb 8:6-10 NEW COVENANT "I will write My LAW on their heart and mind" Jer 31:31-33 ---> what LAW?

The new covenant law of love. 1Jn 3:22 and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. 23 And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. 24 The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.

Those 3 Questions still not answered BK??

Neo I have answered them, so put them to rest. Your copy and paste stuff is old. Lets cme up with something new. By the way please answer my response. Ignoring our responses is not nice. Why should we answer your questions if you ignore our responses.

Or are you saying " Are the Psalms wrong?" is your answer to all the questions? (Should I add that as my 4th question?)

If so - there is a great deal in the Psalms that goes like this.

Psalm 1:2
But his delight is in the law of the Lord, And in His law he meditates day and night.

Psalm 19:7
The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul; The testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple;

Psalm 37:31
The law of his God is in his heart; None of his steps shall slide.

Psalm 40:8
I delight to do Your will, O my God, And Your law is within my heart.”

Psalm 78:1
[ God’s Kindness to Rebellious Israel ] [ A Contemplation of Asaph. ] Give ear, O my people, to my law; Incline your ears to the words of my mouth.

Psalm 78:5
For He established a testimony in Jacob, And appointed a law in Israel, Which He commanded our fathers, That they should make them known to their children;

Psalm 78:10
They did not keep the covenant of God; They refused to walk in His law,

Psalm 81:4
For this is a statute for Israel, A law of the God of Jacob.

Psalm 94:12
Blessed is the man whom You instruct, O Lord, And teach out of Your law,

Psalm 119:1
[ Meditations on the Excellencies of the Word of God ] [ א Aleph ] Blessed are the undefiled in the way, Who walk in the law of the Lord!

Psalm 119:18
Open my eyes, that I may see Wondrous things from Your law.

Psalm 119:29
Remove from me the way of lying, And grant me Your law graciously.

Psalm 119:34
Give me understanding, and I shall keep Your law; Indeed, I shall observe it with my whole heart.

Psalm 119:44
So shall I keep Your law continually, Forever and ever.

Psalm 119:51
The proud have me in great derision, Yet I do not turn aside from Your law.

Psalm 119:53
Indignation has taken hold of me Because of the wicked, who forsake Your law.

Psalm 119:55
I remember Your name in the night, O Lord, And I keep Your law.

Psalm 119:61
The cords of the wicked have bound me, But I have not forgotten Your law.

Psalm 119:70
Their heart is as fat as grease, But I delight in Your law.

Psalm 119:72
The law of Your mouth is better to me Than thousands of coins of gold and silver.

Psalm 119:77
Let Your tender mercies come to me, that I may live; For Your law is my delight.

Who is ignoring the Psalms? Why do you always try to make us into something we are not? The Psalmist was under the law. The law that Jesus fulfilled. The Psalmist loved the law, but as you know didn't keep it and as you also know the law condemned him because of disobedience. Only God's pardon saved the Psalmist. We read the Psalmist knowing that Jesus now has a better covenant and we praise Him in worship, hymns, prayer and of course love for our fellow men as Jesus loves us.

bugkiller · Mar 4, 2016

13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Rom 5

The above verse shows sin was before the law. The law didn't create sin.

19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. Gal 3

The above verse shows the exact samething and gives a reason for the law - transgressions.

Rom 5:13 also gives a reason for the law - so a violator may be charged.

bugkiller

BobRyan · Mar 12, 2016

]Is 66:23 "From new moon to new moon AND FROM Sabbath to Sabbath shall all MANKIND come before Me to worship"

1. It shows that OT authors and readers had the concept of 7th day Sabbath applicable to "all mankind" in Is 66:23.
2. Reading the text we have admit that this Sabbath observance will be binding for all mankind for all of eternity even after the cross.
3. Is 56 - (same book, same author) is affirming gentiles who keep the Sabbath - as honoring God.
4. It is only when the second coming happens and the New Earth and New Heavens are established in Rev 21 that all the wicked have perished and so "All mankind" will be worshiping God, all will be Christians, all will be keeping the Sabbath not just the "Remnant" or "Israel" -- the "FEW" of Matt 7 keeping it on earth as Christians are by far the minority in this world. And of course at the second coming the man-denominations of Christianity become one united group.
5. And of course while the "new moon" is a physical "event" that takes place on a cycle - God's Holy "Sabbath" is a "practice" a "convention" and "observance" not a physical cycle in the heavens - so to worship "from Sabbath to Sabbath" would require that "convention" to still exist.

This is true no matter if one is pro-Sunday or not.

I think all sides can see this point.

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Heb 11
23 By faith Moses, when he was born, was hidden for three months by his parents, because they saw he was a beautiful child; and they were not afraid of the king’s edict. 24 By faith Moses, when he had grown up, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter, 25 choosing rather to endure ill-treatment with the people of God than to enjoy the passing pleasures of sin, 26 considering the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures of Egypt

Matt 17
2 And He was transfigured before them; and His face shone like the sun, and His garments became as white as light. 3 And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Him. 4 Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here; if You wish, I will make three tabernacles here, one for You, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah.”

Luke 9
29 And while He was praying, the appearance of His face became different, and His clothing became white and gleaming. 30 And behold, two men were talking with Him; and they were Moses and Elijah, 31 who, appearing in glory, were speaking of His departure which He was about to accomplish at Jerusalem. 32 Now Peter and his companions had been overcome with sleep; but when they were fully awake, they saw His glory and the two men standing with Him. 33 And as these were leaving Him, Peter said to Jesus, “Master, it is good for us to be here; let us make three tabernacles: one for You, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah”

1 Cor 10
2 and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 and all ate the same spiritual food; 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they were drinking from a spiritual rock which followed them; and the rock was Christ.

Open Heart said:
The verse refers to after the resurrection, in the world to come

Is 66:23 shows that for all eternity after the cross the Sabbath known to Isaiah - continues to be kept.

It kills the argument that the 7th day Sabbath should not exist after the cross.

Open Heart · Mar 12, 2016

BobRyan said:
Ex 20:11
11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

How is this the book of Genesis?

Open Heart · Mar 12, 2016

BobRyan said:
Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their hosts. 2 By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

No command for us to rest or worship in there.

Open Heart · Mar 12, 2016

BobRyan said:
Gen 4
6 Then the Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen? 7 If you do well, will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it.”

This doesn't even refer to the Sabbath. None of your subsequent comments include a verse in Genesis with a command to rest or worship on the Sabbath.

Open Heart · Mar 12, 2016

Open Heart said:
The verse refers to after the resurrection, in the world to come (which some call heaven). In that world, there will be no more working by the sweat of our brow to feed and house ourselves. Every day will be a day of rest, and we will all worship the Lord. This is not possible in the hear and now.

Bob , still waiting for your reply.

For all eternity - "From Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before God to Worship"

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