7 year peace treaty, what 7 year peace treaty?

BABerean2 · Mar 1, 2016

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

457 BC Artaxerxes Decree

Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah...

There shall be seven weeks and sixty two weeks... 69 x 7 = 483 years

27 AD Jesus of Nazareth is anointed by His Father from heaven

Luk 3:21 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened,
Luk 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

30 AD Christ is crucified at Calvary

Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease...

Mat 26:28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Mat_27:51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

34 AD Stephen reviews the history of Israel and the coming of their Messiah.

Act 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

Act 7:52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

Act 7:53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.

Act 7:54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.

Act 7:55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

Act 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

Act 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,

Act 7:58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.

Act 7:59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.

Act 7:60 And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

(Facilitated by the book "The Atonement Clock", written by Christian Gedge, who is my Brother in Christ.)
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precepts · Mar 1, 2016

BABerean2 said:
Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

457 BC Artaxerxes Decree

Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah...

There shall be seven weeks and sixty two weeks... 69 x 7 = 483 years

27 AD Jesus of Nazareth is anointed by His Father from heaven

Luk 3:21 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened,
Luk 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

30 AD Christ is crucified at Calvary

Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease...

Mat 26:28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Mat_27:51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

34 AD Stephen reviews the history of Israel and the coming of their Messiah.

Act 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

Act 7:52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

Act 7:53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.

Act 7:54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.

Act 7:55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

Act 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

Act 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,

Act 7:58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.

Act 7:59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.

Act 7:60 And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

(Facilitated by the book "The Atonement Clock", written by Christian Gedge, who is my Brother in Christ.)
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You full well now Isa--h 44 & 45 proves the decree was Cyrus':

Isa 45:1 Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;
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Isa 45:13 I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, saith the LORD of hosts.

Isa 44:28 That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid.

Now that's plain English!

BABerean2 · Mar 1, 2016

precepts said:
You full well now Isa--h 44 & 45 proves the decree was Cyrus':

Isa 45:1 Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;
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Isa 45:13 I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, saith the LORD of hosts.

Isa 44:28 That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid.

Now that's plain English!

You know just as well as I do that there is more than one decree found written in plain English ...

Ezr 7:1 Now after these things, in the reign of Artaxerxes king of Persia, Ezra the son of Seraiah, the son of Azariah, the son of Hilkiah,

Ezr 7:2 The son of Shallum, the son of Zadok, the son of Ahitub,

Ezr 7:3 The son of Amariah, the son of Azariah, the son of Meraioth,

Ezr 7:4 The son of Zerahiah, the son of Uzzi, the son of Bukki,

Ezr 7:5 The son of Abishua, the son of Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the chief priest:

Ezr 7:6 This Ezra went up from Babylon; and he was a ready scribe in the law of Moses, which the LORD God of Israel had given: and the king granted him all his request, according to the hand of the LORD his God upon him.

Ezr 7:7 And there went up some of the children of Israel, and of the priests, and the Levites, and the singers, and the porters, and the Nethinims, unto Jerusalem, in the seventh year of Artaxerxes the king.

Ezr 7:8 And he came to Jerusalem in the fifth month, which was in the seventh year of the king.

Ezr 7:9 For upon the first day of the first month began he to go up from Babylon, and on the first day of the fifth month came he to Jerusalem, according to the good hand of his God upon him.

Ezr 9:9 For we were bondmen; yet our God hath not forsaken us in our bondage, but hath extended mercy unto us in the sight of the kings of Persia, to give us a reviving, to set up the house of our God, and to repair the desolations thereof, and to give us a wall in Judah and in Jerusalem.

Neh_6:15 So the wall was finished in the twenty and fifth day of the month Elul, in fifty and two days.

Neh_7:1 Now it came to pass, when the wall was built, and I had set up the doors, and the porters and the singers and the Levites were appointed,

Neh_12:27 And at the dedication of the wall of Jerusalem they sought the Levites out of all their places, to bring them to Jerusalem, to keep the dedication with gladness, both with thanksgivings, and with singing, with cymbals, psalteries, and with harps.

Neh_12:30 And the priests and the Levites purified themselves, and purified the people, and the gates, and the wall.

Neh_12:31 Then I brought up the princes of Judah upon the wall, and appointed two great companies of them that gave thanks, whereof one went on the right hand upon the wall toward the dung gate:

Neh_12:37 And at the fountain gate, which was over against them, they went up by the stairs of the city of David, at the going up of the wall, above the house of David, even unto the water gate eastward.

Neh_12:38 And the other company of them that gave thanks went over against them, and I after them, and the half of the people upon the wall, from beyond the tower of the furnaces even unto the broad wall;

Neh_13:21 Then I testified against them, and said unto them, Why lodge ye about the wall? if ye do so again, I will lay hands on you. From that time forth came they no more on the sabbath.

precepts · Mar 1, 2016

BABerean2 said:
You know just as well as I do that there is more than one decree found written in plain English ...

Decrees are not the issue. You know better than that. The decree to rebuilt the city is, as clearly stated in Isa 44 & 45..

BABerean2 said:

Ezr 7:1

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BABerean2 said:
Now after these things, in the reign of Artaxerxes king of Persia, Ezra the son of Seraiah, the son of Azariah, the son of Hilkiah,

Ezr 7:2 The son of Shallum, the son of Zadok, the son of Ahitub,

Ezr 7:3 The son of Amariah, the son of Azariah, the son of Meraioth,

Ezr 7:4 The son of Zerahiah, the son of Uzzi, the son of Bukki,

Ezr 7:5 The son of Abishua, the son of Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the chief priest:

Ezr 7:6 This Ezra went up from Babylon; and he was a ready scribe in the law of Moses, which the LORD God of Israel had given: and the king granted him all his request, according to the hand of the LORD his God upon him.

Ezr 7:7 And there went up some of the children of Israel, and of the priests, and the Levites, and the singers, and the porters, and the Nethinims, unto Jerusalem, in the seventh year of Artaxerxes the king.

Ezr 7:8 And he came to Jerusalem in the fifth month, which was in the seventh year of the king.

Ezr 7:9 For upon the first day of the first month began he to go up from Babylon, and on the first day of the fifth month came he to Jerusalem, according to the good hand of his God upon him.

And?

Where does it say it was a decree to rebuild the city?

BABerean2 said:
Ezr 9:9 For we were bondmen; yet our God hath not forsaken us in our bondage, but hath extended mercy unto us in the sight of the kings of Persia, to give us a reviving, to set up the house of our God, and to repair the desolations thereof, and to give us a wall in Judah and in Jerusalem.

Where does it say they rebuilt the city, and are you not ignoring the fact God said He gave Cyrus the power to free Israel and to rebuild the city and the temple? Where does that come in to play?

Scripture says they began building in the 1st or 2nd yr of the Babylonian exodus and didn't cease until the imposter called Artaxerxes in Ezra 4:7-24 made them to cease until the 2nd yr of Darius. That's 20yrs of building until the stoppage of 2yrs and 4 more years to the temple completion in Darius' 6th year. That would be another 58yrs of unhindered building to Artaxerxes 7th yr.

How do you account for that, and you are not considering the "wall" being rebuilt in the "troublous times" that the 70wks prophecy spoke about as the reason for Ezra and Nehem--h's desolation/ruins references.

BABerean2 said:
Neh_6:15

BABerean2 said:
So the wall was finished in the twenty and fifth day of the month Elul, in fifty and two days.

Neh_7:1 Now it came to pass, when the wall was built, and I had set up the doors, and the porters and the singers and the Levites were appointed,

Neh_12:27 And at the dedication of the wall of Jerusalem they sought the Levites out of all their places, to bring them to Jerusalem, to keep the dedication with gladness, both with thanksgivings, and with singing, with cymbals, psalteries, and with harps.

Neh_12:30 And the priests and the Levites purified themselves, and purified the people, and the gates, and the wall.

Neh_12:31 Then I brought up the princes of Judah upon the wall, and appointed two great companies of them that gave thanks, whereof one went on the right hand upon the wall toward the dung gate:

Neh_12:37 And at the fountain gate, which was over against them, they went up by the stairs of the city of David, at the going up of the wall, above the house of David, even unto the water gate eastward.

Neh_12:38 And the other company of them that gave thanks went over against them, and I after them, and the half of the people upon the wall, from beyond the tower of the furnaces even unto the broad wall;

Neh_13:21 Then I testified against them, and said unto them, Why lodge ye about the wall? if ye do so again, I will lay hands on you. From that time forth came they no more on the sabbath.

Where does it say Nehem--h rebuilt the city? Nowhere!

God gave Cyrus the commandment to rebuild the city and temple and you are ignoring it because you do not want to accept Eze 21:25-27:

Eze 21:25 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,
Eze 21:26 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high.
Eze 21:27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.

Notice it the same time implied as the 70wks prophecy:

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

I rest my case! You full well know.

BABerean2 · Mar 1, 2016

precepts said:
Decrees are not the issue. You know better than that. The decree to rebuilt the city is, as clearly stated in Isa 44 & 45..

And?

Where does it say it was a decree to rebuild the city?

Where does it say they rebuilt the city, and are you not ignoring the fact God said He gave Cyrus the power to free Israel and to rebuild the city and the temple? Where does that come in to play?

Scripture says they began building in the 1st or 2nd yr of the Babylonian exodus and didn't cease until the imposter called Artaxerxes in Ezra 4:7-24 made them to cease until the 2nd yr of Darius. That's 20yrs of building until the stoppage of 2yrs and 4 more years to the temple completion in Darius' 6th year. That would be another 58yrs of unhindered building to Artaxerxes 7th yr.

How do you account for that, and you are not considering the "wall" being rebuilt in the "troublous times" that the 70wks prophecy spoke about as the reason for Ezra and Nehem--h's desolation/ruins references.

Where does it say Nehem--h rebuilt the city? Nowhere!

God gave Cyrus the commandment to rebuild the city and temple and you are ignoring it because you do not want to accept Eze 21:25-27:

Eze 21:25 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,
Eze 21:26 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high.
Eze 21:27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.

Notice it the same time implied as the 70wks prophecy:

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

I rest my case! You full well know.

So are you are saying Daniel chapter 9 has nothing to do with Jesus of Nazareth?

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precepts · Mar 1, 2016

BABerean2 said:
So are you are saying Daniel chapter 9 has nothing to do with Jesus of Nazareth?

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You know exactly what I'm saying.

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BABerean2 · Mar 1, 2016

precepts said:
You know exactly what I'm saying.

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No.

Why don't you spell it out for us.

If you are denying that Daniel chapter 9 is about Jesus of Nazareth, then everyone here need to know it...
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Fusion77 · Mar 1, 2016

precepts said:
Decrees are not the issue. You know better than that. The decree to rebuilt the city is, as clearly stated in Isa 44 & 45..

And?

Where does it say it was a decree to rebuild the city?

Where does it say they rebuilt the city, and are you not ignoring the fact God said He gave Cyrus the power to free Israel and to rebuild the city and the temple? Where does that come in to play?

Scripture says they began building in the 1st or 2nd yr of the Babylonian exodus and didn't cease until the imposter called Artaxerxes in Ezra 4:7-24 made them to cease until the 2nd yr of Darius. That's 20yrs of building until the stoppage of 2yrs and 4 more years to the temple completion in Darius' 6th year. That would be another 58yrs of unhindered building to Artaxerxes 7th yr.

How do you account for that, and you are not considering the "wall" being rebuilt in the "troublous times" that the 70wks prophecy spoke about as the reason for Ezra and Nehem--h's desolation/ruins references.

Where does it say Nehem--h rebuilt the city? Nowhere!

God gave Cyrus the commandment to rebuild the city and temple and you are ignoring it because you do not want to accept Eze 21:25-27:

Eze 21:25 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,
Eze 21:26 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high.
Eze 21:27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.

Notice it the same time implied as the 70wks prophecy:

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

I rest my case! You full well know.

Why would you assume that Cyrus of Persia fulfilled Isaiah's prophecy about the Cyrus of Isaiah? Ezra 1:1-2 is real clear that Cyrus of Persia fulfilled the word of Jeremiah the prophet and not necessarily Isaiah. Ezra1:1-2

1Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, in order to fulfill the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah, the LORDstirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, so that he sent a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and also put itin writing, saying:

2“Thus says Cyrus king of Persia, ‘The LORD, the God of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth and He has appointed me to build Him a house in Jerusalem, which is in Judah.

Notice the decree is to build the house of God, and not to rebuild the city. Therefore, it's a pretty safe assumption that the prophet Isaiah spoke of a different Cyrus. Also, that Cyrus of Persia did not fulfill Isaiah's prophecy.

If you notice Cyrus is the name that the Lord calls this man. It is not his earthly name, but rather he is the one whom the Lord calls Cyrus.
Isaiah 45:3

3“I will give you the treasures of darkness
And hidden wealth of secret places,
So that you may know that it is I,
The LORD, the God of Israel, who calls you by your name.

It's interesting to note, that Harry Truman, claimed that he was Cyrus. As a matter of fact, there's probably no other human more responsible than he is, for the modern state of Israel.

Isaiah 45:1

T1Thus says the LORD to Cyrus His anointed,
Whom I have taken by the right hand,
To subdue nations before him
And to loose the loins of kings;
To open doors before him so that gates will not be shut:

It also interesting to note, that Harry Truman, essentially ended the war against Japan, who was in support (allies) of the Germans. The Germans under Hitler, murdered millions of Jews. it was only a matter of months after Truman assumed the presidency that world war 2 ended. I'm not saying Truman was definitely the Cyrus Isaiah spoke of, However, it is possible.

Ezra was a scribe and gave a historical account of events. Whenever the words of the prophets don't coincide with his historical accounts, you can know what that prophet spoke was unfulfilled prophecy.

We can tell that the city was still in ruins after the wall was finished. By this, it's clear little work transpired on the city up until the reign of Artexerxes.

Nehemiah 7:1-4

1Now when the wall was rebuilt and I had set up the doors, and the gatekeepers and the singers and the Levites were appointed, 2then I put Hanani my brother, and Hananiah the commander of the fortress, in charge of Jerusalem, for he was a faithful man and feared God more than many. 3Then I said to them, “Do not let the gates of Jerusalem be opened until the sun is hot, and while they are standing guard, let them shut and bolt the doors. Also appoint guards from the inhabitants of Jerusalem, each at his post, and each in front of his own house.” 4Now the city was large and spacious, but the people in it were few and the houses were not built

Here, Through the historical writings we see the city is not built. Besides, who builds a city before the wall of protection is up anyways? Especially in times of trouble.

There's no way Ezra 4:7 speaks of the usurper. As a matter of fact, after reading some commentaries- there's no historical record of that usurper being referred to as Artexerxes. Some folks have erroneously called the usurper Artexerxes without understanding that Ezra 4:6-23 jumps into the future.

The NLT actually nails it.

Ezra 4:4-7

4Then the local residents tried to discourage and frighten the people of Judah to keep them from their work. 5They bribed agents to work against them and to frustrate their plans. This went on during the entire reign of King Cyrus of Persia and lasted until King Darius of Persia took the throne.a

6Years later when Xerxesb began his reign, the enemies of Judah wrote a letter of accusation against the people of Judah and Jerusalem.

7Even later, during the reign of King Artaxerxes of Persia,c the enemies of Judah, led by Bishlam, Mithredath, and Tabeel, sent a letter to Artaxerxes in the Aramaic language, and it was translated for the king.

Look at Ezra 4:12

12let it be known to the king that the Jews who came up from you have come to us at Jerusalem; they are rebuilding the rebellious and evil city and are finishing the walls and repairing the foundations.

The bolden text is very clear that this same Artexerxes that the letter is written too, also sent these same Jews to Jerusalem. The Jews who came up from you. From who? Artexerxes !

Ezra 7:11-13 is exactly wherein, Artexerxes sent the Jews who came up from him.

11Now this is the copy of the decree which King Artaxerxes gave to Ezra the priest, the scribe, learned in the words of the commandments of the LORD and His statutes to Israel: 12“Artaxerxes, king of kings, to Ezra the priest, the scribe of the law of the God of heaven, perfect peace.And now 13I have issued a decree that any of the people of Israel and their priests and the Levites in my kingdom who are willing to go to Jerusalem, may go with you.

Yep, that's where Artexerxes allowed them to come .

precepts · Mar 1, 2016

BABerean2 said:
No.

Why don't you spell it out for us.

If you are denying that Daniel chapter 9 is about Jesus of Nazareth, then everyone here need to know it...
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You full well know Daniel chapter 9 is not about anything A.D.
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Fusion77 · Mar 1, 2016

precepts said:
You know exactly what I'm saying.

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Do you consider yourself a member of the Levitical priesthood?

precepts · Mar 1, 2016

Fusion77 said:
Why would you assume that Cyrus of Persia fulfilled Isaiah's prophecy about the Cyrus of Isaiah? Ezra 1:1-2 is real clear that Cyrus of Persia fulfilled the word of Jeremiah the prophet and not necessarily Isaiah. Ezra1:1-2

1Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, in order to fulfill the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah, the LORDstirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, so that he sent a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and also put itin writing, saying:

2“Thus says Cyrus king of Persia, ‘The LORD, the God of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth and He has appointed me to build Him a house in Jerusalem, which is in Judah.

Notice the decree is to build the house of God, and not to rebuild the city. Therefore, it's a pretty safe assumption that the prophet Isaiah spoke of a different Cyrus. Also, that Cyrus of Persia did not fulfill Isaiah's prophecy.

You people will say anything to not accept the fact. Read Isa 44:28 and 45:1 and 13 and see if it doesn't mention building the "city" and the temple. Was it another Cyrus in Isa--h who is told to build the city and house than the Cyrus you're quoting in Ezra that's told to build just the "house"? You're not that simple.

Fusion77 said:
If you notice Cyrus is the name that the Lord calls this man. It is not his earthly name, but rather he is the one whom the Lord calls Cyrus.
Isaiah 45:3

3“I will give you the treasures of darkness
And hidden wealth of secret places,
So that you may know that it is I,
The LORD, the God of Israel, who calls you by your name.

It's interesting to note, that Harry Truman, claimed that he was Cyrus. As a matter of fact, there's probably no other human more responsible than he is, for the modern state of Israel.

Isaiah 45:1

T1Thus says the LORD to Cyrus His anointed,
Whom I have taken by the right hand,
To subdue nations before him
And to loose the loins of kings;
To open doors before him so that gates will not be shut:

It also interesting to note, that Harry Truman, essentially ended the war against Japan, who was in support (allies) of the Germans. The Germans under Hitler, murdered millions of Jews. it was only a matter of months after Truman assumed the presidency that world war 2 ended. I'm not saying Truman was definitely the Cyrus Isaiah spoke of, However, it is possible.

Ezra was a scribe and gave a historical account of events. Whenever the words of the prophets don't coincide with his historical accounts, you can know what that prophet spoke was unfulfilled prophecy.

We can tell that the city was still in ruins after the wall was finished. By this, it's clear little work transpired on the city up until the reign of Artexerxes.

Nehemiah 7:1-4

1Now when the wall was rebuilt and I had set up the doors, and the gatekeepers and the singers and the Levites were appointed, 2then I put Hanani my brother, and Hananiah the commander of the fortress, in charge of Jerusalem, for he was a faithful man and feared God more than many. 3Then I said to them, “Do not let the gates of Jerusalem be opened until the sun is hot, and while they are standing guard, let them shut and bolt the doors. Also appoint guards from the inhabitants of Jerusalem, each at his post, and each in front of his own house.” 4Now the city was large and spacious, but the people in it were few and the houses were not built

Here, Through the historical writings we see the city is not built. Besides, who builds a city before the wall of protection is up anyways? Especially in times of trouble.

Anybody that thinks the Cyrus told to build the city and temple and to free Israel in the book of Isa--h is a different Cyrus from the one in Ezra just because in Ezra only the house is mentioned though it's referring to the same period of time of Israel's return from Babylon doesn't have a clue.. You are making mountains out of mole hills.

If you can't understand the simple things that are a given, how can you handle the rest?

Fusion77 said:
There's no way Ezra 4:7 speaks of the usurper. As a matter of fact, after reading some commentaries- there's no historical record of that usurper being referred to as Artexerxes. Some folks have erroneously called the usurper Artexerxes without understanding that Ezra 4:6-23 jumps into the future.

You people make up these silly excuses as you go along.

Up until a couple years ago, everyone understood Cyrus' decree to be the decree for the 70wks prophecy until I brought up the fact that the 490 yrs from Cyrus' decree to 33ad didn't add. Everybody was so brainwashed by this Chris-tian propaganda that they didn't even take the time out to check the historical facts surrounding Cyrus' decree, which I did and pointed it out.

The next thing you know, the "scream" became, "Oh, it's Artaxerxes!"

Now, you're claiming that what the writers meant in Ezra 4:1-5 was that the building ceased from Cyrus to Darius' 2nd yr just because the word "frustrated" means "ceasing" and not plain old English "harassment."

Well, here's the fact. When Christ said in the new testament, "destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up," what was the reply of the Pharisees? "Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?"

Even though the amount of yrs are off, history records about twenty something yrs to rebuild the temple, it still proves your theory wrong.

The temple, according to Ezra, was finished in the 6th yr of Darius' reign. So how many years of building is that?

Solomon built his in 7yrs.

Fusion77 said:
The NLT actually nails it.

Ezra 4:4-7

4Then the local residents tried to discourage and frighten the people of Judah to keep them from their work. 5They bribed agents to work against them and to frustrate their plans. This went on during the entire reign of King Cyrus of Persia and lasted until King Darius of Persia took the throne.a

6Years later when Xerxesb began his reign, the enemies of Judah wrote a letter of accusation against the people of Judah and Jerusalem.

7Even later, during the reign of King Artaxerxes of Persia,c the enemies of Judah, led by Bishlam, Mithredath, and Tabeel, sent a letter to Artaxerxes in the Aramaic language, and it was translated for the king.

Do you realize that from Cyrus' decree and the Babylonian exodus to Artaxerxes' 1st yr of reign is 74yrs? and 51 years of unhindered building from Darius' 2nd yr (vs 24) to Artaxerxes' 1st yr?

Fusion77 said:
Look at Ezra 4:12

12let it be known to the king that the Jews who came up from you have come to us at Jerusalem; they are rebuilding the rebellious and evil city and are finishing the walls and repairing the foundations.

The bolden text is very clear that this same Artexerxes that the letter is written too, also sent these same Jews to Jerusalem. The Jews who came up from you. From who? Artexerxes

Ezra 7:11-13 is exactly wherein, Artexerxes sent the Jews who came up from him.

11Now this is the copy of the decree which King Artaxerxes gave to Ezra the priest, the scribe, learned in the words of the commandments of the LORD and His statutes to Israel: 12“Artaxerxes, king of kings, to Ezra the priest, the scribe of the law of the God of heaven, perfect peace.And now 13I have issued a decree that any of the people of Israel and their priests and the Levites in my kingdom who are willing to go to Jerusalem, may go with you.

Yep, that's where Artexerxes allowed them to come .

What year in Artaxerxes reign did Ezra get permission to go to "Yah-ru-shalem," and what year did Nehem--h? The 7th and the 20th year!

Artaxerxes didn't allow them to go in his 7th year for them to return in his 20th yr to tell Nehem--h that the city lay in ruins "burning" if there wasn't any ceasing from Darius' 2nd yr to Artaxerxes, even if you believe it is this Artaxerxes in Ezra 4:6-23.

Why would it be burning and in "ruins" after they returned 13 yrs later unless a "troublous times" event occurred that caused the burning 94yrs after the Babylonian exodus?

Food for thought!

precepts · Mar 1, 2016

Fusion77 said:
Do you consider yourself a member of the Levitical priesthood?

As much as you do.

Douggg · Mar 1, 2016

precepts said:
You full well know Daniel chapter 9 is not about anything A.D.
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You are saying what Daniel 9 is "not" about. The question put to you is for your view of what Daniel 9 is about?

Take advantage of the question and tell us what you believe Daniel 9 is about.

Douggg · Mar 1, 2016

BABerean2 said:
No, but his company's publication of the New King James Bible is here at my fingertips, supporting my interpretation.

And your interpretations is supported by who ???

Just Douggg...

And you say Dr. Kelly Varner, Pastor John Otis, researcher James Lloyd, the publishing house of Thomas Nelson, Goodbook , and myself are all taking the scripture out of context by insisting that "the covenant with the many" in Daniel 9:27 is the same "covenant with the many" in Matthew 26:28.

And you insist that it is about a future confirmation of the now "obsolete" (Hebrews 8:13) Sinai covenant.

And you continue to say that "we" are on a wild goose chase.

It is more likely that you are on a snipe hunt and you are the one holding the bag.

Just keep holding that bag until a snipe runs into your bag and then you will have him...

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You need to come up with some text in the bible that has 7 years in it that would explain the confirm the covenant for 7 years.

The "many" simply distinguishes that the covenant is not with a single or handful of persons, but "many". Your "many" connection lacks the element of "7 years" in the text.

My view is, in general, the futurist end times view of the Antichrist emerging from the Roman Empire and beginning a 7 year last week of the 70 weeks. The thing that is different in my view from the most popular futurist based view is that most claim a forthcoming 7 year peace treaty, while I say the confirming for 7 years is a requirement found already in the bible.

Remember, we have to consider the Antichrist as someone to them (the Jews) would appear to be their Messiah. So the more we know about what the Jews think - the better we can understand the end times scenario.

If you are asking me if I am parroting some noted bible commentator like Jack Van Impe, Hal Lindsey, Chuck Missler, etc - the answer is "no". Which is why you don't see me post any of their videos.

I think it is just a question of the other guys not being aware of Deuteronomy 31:9-13 and what says, and lack of understanding of what Judaism believes. Keep in mind before the age of the internet, it was not hardly possible for the average Christian to get into lengthy discussions with Jews, who themselves have been refining their position with counter (Christian) missionary education for their own people, to learn how what they believe fits in with the end times scenario.

Fusion77 · Mar 1, 2016

precepts said:
You people will say anything to not accept the fact. Read Isa 44:28 and 45:1 and 13 and see if it doesn't mention building the "city" and the temple. Was it another Cyrus in Isa--h who is told to build the city and house than the Cyrus you're quoting in Ezra that's told to build just the "house"? You're not that simple.

Anybody that thinks the Cyrus told to build the city and temple and to free Israel in the book of Isa--h is a different Cyrus from the one in Ezra just because in Ezra only the house is mentioned though it's referring to the same period of time of Israel's return from Babylon doesn't have a clue.. You are making mountains out of mole hills.

If you can't understand the simple things that are a given, how can you handle the rest?

You people make up these silly excuses as you go along.

Up until a couple years ago, everyone understood Cyrus' decree to be the decree for the 70wks prophecy until I brought up the fact that the 490 yrs from Cyrus' decree to 33ad didn't add. Everybody was so brainwashed by this Chris-tian propaganda that they didn't even take the time out to check the historical facts surrounding Cyrus' decree, which I did and pointed it out.

The next thing you know, the "scream" became, "Oh, it's Artaxerxes!"

Now, you're claiming that what the writers meant in Ezra 4:1-5 was that the building ceased from Cyrus to Darius' 2nd yr just because the word "frustrated" means "ceasing" and not plain old English "harassment."

Well, here's the fact. When Christ said in the new testament, "destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up," what was the reply of the Pharisees? "Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?"

Even though the amount of yrs are off, history records about twenty something yrs to rebuild the temple, it still proves your theory wrong.

The temple, according to Ezra, was finished in the 6th yr of Darius' reign. So how many years of building is that?

Solomon built his in 7yrs.

Do you realize that from Cyrus' decree and the Babylonian exodus to Artaxerxes' 1st yr of reign is 74yrs? and 51 years of unhindered building from Darius' 2nd yr (vs 24) to Artaxerxes' 1st yr?

What year in Artaxerxes reign did Ezra get permission to go to "Yah-ru-shalem," and what year did Nehem--h? The 7th and the 20th year!

Artaxerxes didn't allow them to go in his 7th year for them to return in his 20th yr to tell Nehem--h that the city lay in ruins "burning" if there wasn't any ceasing from Darius' 2nd yr to Artaxerxes, even if you believe it is this Artaxerxes in Ezra 4:6-23.

Why would it be burning and in "ruins" after they returned 13 yrs later unless a "troublous times" event occurred that caused the burning 94yrs after the Babylonian exodus?

Food for thought!

You already know the answer to that. You know why there were troublous times, because of Artexerxes decree to stop building. The Jews were stopped by force of arms. Ezra 4:23

23Then as soon as the copy of King Artaxerxes’ document was read before Rehum and Shimshai the scribe and their colleagues, they went in haste to Jerusalem to the Jews and stopped them by force of arms.

You see the result of them being stopped by force of arms in Nehemiah 1:2-3

2that Hanani, one of my brothers, and some men from Judah came; and I asked them concerning the Jews who had escaped and had survived the captivity, and about Jerusalem. 3They said to me, “The remnant there in the province who survived the captivity are in great distress and reproach, and the wall of Jerusalem is broken down and its gates are burned with fire.”

Obviously, this happened sometime after Artexerxes 7th year and before his 20th year. Obviously closer to his 20th year.
Ezra 4:12 is real clear 12let it be known to the king that the Jews who came up from you have come to us at Jerusalem; they are rebuilding the rebellious and evil city and are finishing the walls and repairing the foundations. CLEAR

12let it be known to the king that the Jews who came up from you have come to us at Jerusalem; they are rebuilding the rebellious and evil city and are finishing the walls and repairing the foundations.

this letter is addressed to Artexerxes. He sent the Jews up in his 7th year. Do you see where it says "the Jews who came up from you?"

The imposter usurped for 6 months. How would it be possible for Jews to come up from him several hundred miles in a caravan? Work on the walls, repair foundations of buildings then get in trouble. Then a scribe write a letter, bring it some 800 miles to the king, search the records. Then issue a decree, and bring it back another 800 miles. Impossible! In 6 months without a time machine.

The reason why they got into trouble for working on the wall and repairing foundations of buildings. Listen Real close now. THERE WAS NO DECREE ISSUED BY CYRUS TO REBUILD THE CITY! If there had been, the Jews would have appealed to the decree issued by Cyrus. You know why they didn't appeal? THERE WAS NO DECREE! Artexerxes commanded the Jews to stop building until he issued a further decree. He says that in his letter.
Ezra 4:16

21“So, now issue a decree to make these men stop work, that this city may not be rebuilt until a decree is issued by me.

Even Artexerxes says don't build the city until I issue a decree. Guess what, he did issue that decree. It's found in Nehemiah 2:5-6 it's in the month of Nisan in Artexerxes 20th year

5I said to the king, “If it please the king, and if your servant has found favor before you, send me to Judah, to the city of my fathers’ tombs, that I may rebuild it.” 6Then the king said to me, the queen sitting beside him, “How long will your journey be, and when will you return?” So it pleased the king to send me, and I gave him a definite time.

I'm sure you'll say...that's no decree. Well Ezra 6:14 tells us it was a decree.

14And the elders of the Jews were successful in building through the prophesying of Haggai the prophet and Zechariah the son of Iddo. And they finished building according to the command of the God of Israel and the decree of Cyrus, Darius, and Artaxerxes king of Persia.

Ezra 6:3 here is Cyrus's decree. Do you see anything about rebuilding a city in here? NO!

3“In the first year of King Cyrus, Cyrus the king issued a decree: ‘Concerning the house of God at Jerusalem, let the temple, the place where sacrifices are offered, be rebuilt and let its foundations be retained, its height being 60 cubits and its width 60 cubits;

Here's Darius's Decree. Reiterating what Cyrus decreed. Plus, adding other good tidings. Ezra 6:8-11

.8“Moreover, I issue a decree concerning what you are to do for these elders of Judah in the rebuilding of this house of God: the full cost is to be paid to these people from the royal treasury out of the taxes of the provinces beyond the River, and that without delay. 9“Whatever is needed, both young bulls, rams, and lambs for a burnt offering to the God of heaven, and wheat, salt, wine and anointing oil, as the priests in Jerusalem request, it is to be given to them daily without fail, 10that they may offer acceptable sacrifices to the God of heaven and pray for the life of the king and his sons. 11“And I issued a decree that any man who violates this edict, a timber shall be drawn from his house and he shall be impaled on it and his house shall be made a refuse heap on account of this.

Nothing about rebuilding the city from Cyrus or Darius!

That's why the Jews couldn't appeal when the letter came to Artexerxes. There Was no decree from a former king allowing them to rebuild the city.

precepts · Mar 1, 2016

Douggg said:
You are saying what Daniel 9 is "not" about. The question put to you is for your view of what Daniel 9 is about?

Take advantage of the question and tell us what you believe Daniel 9 is about.

You and I have been thru the 70wks prophecy on my thread, "The 70wks Missing Ingredient." So why are you acting dumb?

Or is it that you want to imply to the readers that I'm saying Dan 9 is not about Christ, which is foolish?

precepts · Mar 1, 2016

Fusion77 said:
You already know the answer to that. You know why there were troublous times, because of Artexerxes decree to stop building. The Jews were stopped by force of arms. Ezra 4:23

And that left the city in burning ruins?

Fusion77 said:
23Then as soon as the copy of King Artaxerxes’ document was read before Rehum and Shimshai the scribe and their colleagues, they went in haste to Jerusalem to the Jews and stopped them by force of arms.

You see the result of them being stopped by force of arms in Nehemiah 1:2-3

2that Hanani, one of my brothers, and some men from Judah came; and I asked them concerning the Jews who had escaped and had survived the captivity, and about Jerusalem. 3They said to me, “The remnant there in the province who survived the captivity are in great distress and reproach, and the wall of Jerusalem is broken down and its gates are burned with fire.”

Obviously, this happened sometime after Artexerxes 7th year and before his 20th year. Obviously closer to his 20th year.
Ezra 4:12 is real clear 12let it be known to the king that the Jews who came up from you have come to us at Jerusalem; they are rebuilding the rebellious and evil city and are finishing the walls and repairing the foundations. CLEAR

12let it be known to the king that the Jews who came up from you have come to us at Jerusalem; they are rebuilding the rebellious and evil city and are finishing the walls and repairing the foundations.

this letter is addressed to Artexerxes. He sent the Jews up in his 7th year. Do you see where it says "the Jews who came up from you?"

There's a reason why you only addressed one point I made. Ezra 4:6-23 is an insert from the future and shouldn't have been followed by vs 24. Verse 24 should have been followed by vs 5. In other words, your theory and understanding far outweighs the numerous KJV scholars as well as all the other version's interpreters? What a clever fox you are!

Fusion77 said:
The imposter usurped for 6 months. How would it be possible for Jews to come up from him several hundred miles in a caravan? Work on the walls, repair foundations of buildings then get in trouble. Then a scribe write a letter, bring it some 800 miles to the king, search the records. Then issue a decree, and bring it back another 800 miles. Impossible! In 6 months without a time machine.

You're not thinking logically. How long did Ezra say it took him to get to Shalem in Artaxerxes 7th yr? And I don't interpret "the Jews that came up from you" to mean he sent them, but that he's sovereign over them and inherited their exodus from Cyrus.

When did the building cease after Darius' 2nd yr would be the most logical question since it would have been 57yrs to Artaxerxes' 7th yr when you claimed he sent them to Israel for them to report back that they were rebuilding the city then? :doh:

Fusion77 said:
The reason why they got into trouble for working on the wall and repairing foundations of buildings. Listen Real close now. THERE WAS NO DECREE ISSUED BY CYRUS TO REBUILD THE CITY! If there had been, the Jews would have appealed to the decree issued by Cyrus. You know why they didn't appeal? THERE WAS NO DECREE! Artexerxes commanded the Jews to stop building until he issued a further decree. He says that in his letter.
Ezra 4:16

21“So, now issue a decree to make these men stop work, that this city may not be rebuilt until a decree is issued by me.

Even Artexerxes says don't build the city until I issue a decree. Guess what, he did issue that decree. It's found in Nehemiah 2:5-6 it's in the month of Nisan in Artexerxes 20th year

So, because of Nehem--h's sad countenance after hearing about the city being in ruins some 13yrs later, he is suddenly saddened before the king and the king changes his mind and his decree? Here's a thought: I thought it was inconceivable for a Persian king to cancel or change a decree. Wasn't that the case with Ester and Haman, with Darius and Daniel in the lions den?

Fusion77 said:
5I said to the king, “If it please the king, and if your servant has found favor before you, send me to Judah, to the city of my fathers’ tombs, that I may rebuild it.” 6Then the king said to me, the queen sitting beside him, “How long will your journey be, and when will you return?” So it pleased the king to send me, and I gave him a definite time.

Ezra 6:3 here is Cyrus's decree. Do you see anything about rebuilding a city in here? NO!

3“In the first year of King Cyrus, Cyrus the king issued a decree: ‘Concerning the house of God at Jerusalem, let the temple, the place where sacrifices are offered, be rebuilt and let its foundations be retained, its height being 60 cubits and its width 60 cubits;

That's why the Jews couldn't appeal when the letter came to Artexerxes. There Was no decree from a former king allowing them to rebuild the city.

Why don't you address the fact Isa--h and Ezra's context are both post-Babylon? The Ezra you're quoting is quoting Cyrus' decree for Israel to return to Israel and rebuild. So what is the Cyrus in Isa 44 and 45's context? Not freeing Israel from Babylon so they can go and rebuild the city and temple? :scratch:

Duh!

Fusion77 · Mar 1, 2016

precepts said:
And that left the city in burning ruins?

There's a reason why you only addressed one point I made. Ezra 4:6-23 is an insert from the future and shouldn't have been followed by vs 24. Verse 24 should have been followed by vs 5. In other words, your theory and understanding far outweighs the numerous KJV scholars as well as all the other version's interpreters? What a clever fox you are!

You're not thinking logically. How long did Ezra say it took him to get to Shalem in Artaxerxes 7th yr? And I don't interpret "the Jews that came up from you" to mean he sent them, but that he's sovereign over them and inherited their exodus from Cyrus.

When did the building cease after Darius' 2nd yr would be the most logical question since it would have been 57yrs to Artaxerxes' 7th yr when you claimed he sent them to Israel for them to report back that they were rebuilding the city then?

So, because of Nehem--h's sad countenance after hearing about the city being in ruins some 13yrs later, he is suddenly saddened before the king and the king changes his mind and his decree? Here's a thought: I thought it was inconceivable for a Persian king to cancel or change a decree. Wasn't that the case with Ester and Haman, with Darius and Daniel in the lions den?

Why don't you address the fact Isa--h and Ezra's context are both post-Babylon? The Ezra you're quoting is quoting Cyrus' decree for Israel to return to Israel and rebuild. So what is the Cyrus in Isa 44 and 45's context? Not freeing Israel from Babylon so they can go and rebuild the city and temple?

Duh!

Ezra 4:1-5
it's very clear that the context of Ezra 4:1-5 is speaking of the temple. Do you actually dispute that?

1Now when the enemies of Judah and Benjamin heard that the people of the exile were building a temple to the LORD God of Israel, 2they approached Zerubbabel and the heads of fathers’ households, and said to them, “Let us build with you, for we, like you, seek your God; and we have been sacrificing to Him since the days of Esarhaddon king of Assyria, who brought us up here.” 3But Zerubbabel and Jeshua and the rest of the heads of fathers’ households of Israel said to them, “You have nothing in common with us in building a house to our God; but we ourselves will together build to the LORD God of Israel, as King Cyrus, the king of Persia has commanded us.”
4Then the people of the land discouraged the people of Judah, and frightened them from building, 5and hired counselors against them to frustrate their counsel all the days of Cyrus king of Persia, even until the reign of Darius king of Persia.

Hello! This is speaking of the temple. Don't you see the context? There's nothing about the city being rebuilt here. The work on the temple Ceased from all the days of Cyrus king of Persia, even until the reign of Darius king of Persia. until the 2nd year of Darius.

Ezra 4:4-5

4Then the people of the land discouraged the people of Judah, and frightened them from building, 5and hired counselors against them to frustrate their counsel all the days of Cyrus king of Persia, even until the reign of Darius king of Persia.

The context of Ezra 4:1-5 is the work on the Temple!!!!

The temple was completed in Darius's 6th year. So, if the work on the temple was completed. I guess we know when the work stopped.

Ezra 6:15

15This temple was completed on the third day of the month Adar; it was the sixth year of the reign of King Darius.

Ezra 1:1-2 says Cyrus fulfilled the words of the prophet JEREMIAH! Not Isaiah.

1Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, in order to fulfill the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah, the LORDstirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, so that he sent a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and also put itin writing, saying:
2“Thus says Cyrus king of Persia, ‘The LORD, the God of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth and He has appointed me to build Him a house in Jerusalem, which is in Judah.

Funny, because king Artexerxes sure didn't think it was inconceivable for him to issue a new decree. It states so right here!
Ezra 4:21

21“So, now issue a decree to make these men stop work, that this city may not be rebuilt until a decree is issued by me.

Hello! Do you not see that? Decreed to stop until he issues a new decree to start building again.

Who says the cities has been burning for 13 years. As I said it's obvious, the decree to stop building was much closer to Artexerxes 20th year. The text does not say. I could only Speculate it was from Artexerxes 15-19th year. Furthermore, Nehemiah 1:3 states the gates are burned, (past tense), not burning.

3They said to me, “The remnant there in the province who survived the captivity are in great distress and reproach, and the wall of Jerusalem is broken down and its gates are burned with fire.”

If the KJV commentators think some imposter usurped authority for 6 months. And, was able to do all of this without a time machine. Then, I don't know what to say?

IMO Isaiah is not speaking of Cyrus of Persia. I believe it's speaking of a then future event that Cyrus of Persia did not fulfill. Regardless, he did not issue a decree to rebuild Jerusalem.

Douggg · Mar 2, 2016

precepts said:
You and I have been thru the 70wks prophecy on my thread, "The 70wks Missing Ingredient." So why are you acting dumb?

Or is it that you want to imply to the readers that I'm saying Dan 9 is not about Christ, which is foolish?

The question put to you was not about me. The question put to you is for your view of what Daniel 9 is about?

BABerean2 · Mar 2, 2016

precepts said:
You and I have been thru the 70wks prophecy on my thread, "The 70wks Missing Ingredient." So why are you acting dumb?

Or is it that you want to imply to the readers that I'm saying Dan 9 is not about Christ, which is foolish?

The word "antichrist" means against Christ.

Your claim that Daniel chapter 9 has nothing to do with events during the first century, is the most antichrist interpretation of Daniel chapter 9 that I have ever read, in that it denies the connection between the passage and the life of Jesus of Nazareth.

You are also denying the connection between the passage and the New Covenant foretold by Jeremiah.

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

And spoken by the Messiah Himself at the Last Supper, during the first century.

Mat 26:28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

His Blood was the final sacrifice for sin.

Mar_15:38 And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom.

Heb_9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

His sacrifice made the Sinai covenant "obsolete".

Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

The levitical priesthood is finished.

Heb_7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

Denying that the levitical priesthood is finished also denies the New Testament and anyone who does so is not a follower of Jesus of Nazareth...
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7 year peace treaty, what 7 year peace treaty?

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