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keras said:

I pick on anyone who promote theories contrary to what the Bible prophets have told us.
I do not say I know exactly what the future holds, but having intensively studied prophecy for many years, I do have a fair idea and I expect to see it all happen, despite being 74 years young!

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Keras be nice now. I love your scholarship...and respect the wisdom of your 74 years. But tell me exactly what Fusion and I did for you to tell us that we were not looking at prophecy. Just because we did not see it the way you see it does not mean we were not looking at prophecy. The prophecies are laid out in the scripture, but none of us know how they are going to look to our eyes when they are fulfilled. I have studied prophecy since the 80's and though maybe not as long as you, but imho that is a pretty long time and worthy if a little bit of respect from my elders. We are here on this forum trying to understand and share our knowledge. We are not always going to agree with one another, but, that is no reason to accuse people of not reading or studying.We are all children of God, and we should get along even in disagreement. I don't like arguing just for the sake of arguing. I don't like threads that dissolve int a lot of bickering, contention, and nasty digs. Now I guess I need to leave this thread that I was enjoying immensely.

keras said:

A conventional, or even a nuke war wouldn't produce the earth and heaven shaking, prophesied in Haggai 2:21b.
Also a 'normal' type war in todays situation, would most likely escalate to worldwide and virtually wipe out humanity. What the Lord will do, by the means of His fiery judgement, will be like a surgical strike onto the Middle East, that will destroy His enemies, Jeremiah 12:14, Ezekiel 30:1-5, the rest of the world will mostly survive under cover, but with the loss of our modern infrastructure.

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So you're saying there will be no, even moderate, war before the Day of the Lord comes?

I apologize to anyone I have upset by my posts.
I do get frustrated sometimes by people who are on the forum just to push their own agenda's and by those when the truth of scripture is presented, simply can't see it. So I do get a little forceful sometimes, consequently causing upset. However, the ancient prophets also caused upset by what they said and my task is to present their Words, so basically, opposition to my posts is unavoidable.

Fusion77 said:

So you're saying there will be no, even moderate, war before the Day of the Lord comes?

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Jesus said: you will hear of wars and rumor's of wars.... And, of course the First Seal, Revelation 6:2, was opened by Jesus when He ascended to the Father. As was Seals 2 to 5. Proved by the fact we have had continuous wars somewhere on earth since then and many martyrs since Stephen. Right now, of course, there is a 'moderate' war in Syria. The people there wouldn't say it was 'moderate'!
Bible prophecy is clear: none of the 4 'wars' mentioned, Psalms 83, Gog/Magog, Armageddon and at the end of the Millennium, will be actually fought. They are all won by the Lord, as He sends out His punishments of fire, earthquakes and storms to destroy His enemies as they gather to attack.
One of the most prophesied events in our Bible, is the Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath. A worldwide disaster that will happen years before the Return of Jesus. It will be a Coronal Mass Ejection sunstrike triggered by an Islamic confederation commencing their attack on Israel. That will be the world changer and we who must call out to the Lord on that Day, should be aware of His plans. If not, or are expecting some different outcome, then it may be that many will lose their faith in the fiery test to come. 1 Peter 4:12

keras said:

I apologize to anyone I have upset by my posts.
I do get frustrated sometimes by people who are on the forum just to push their own agenda's and by those when the truth of scripture is presented, simply can't see it. So I do get a little forceful sometimes, consequently causing upset. However, the ancient prophets also caused upset by what they said and my task is to present their Words, so basically, opposition to my posts is unavoidable.

Jesus said: you will hear of wars and rumor's of wars.... And, of course the First Seal, Revelation 6:2, was opened by Jesus when He ascended to the Father. As was Seals 2 to 5. Proved by the fact we have had continuous wars somewhere on earth since then and many martyrs since Stephen. Right now, of course, there is a 'moderate' war in Syria. The people there wouldn't say it was 'moderate'!
Bible prophecy is clear: none of the 4 'wars' mentioned, Psalms 83, Gog/Magog, Armageddon and at the end of the Millennium, will be actually fought. They are all won by the Lord, as He sends out His punishments of fire, earthquakes and storms to destroy His enemies as they gather to attack.
One of the most prophesied events in our Bible, is the Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath. A worldwide disaster that will happen years before the Return of Jesus. It will be a Coronal Mass Ejection sunstrike triggered by an Islamic confederation commencing their attack on Israel. That will be the world changer and we who must call out to the Lord on that Day, should be aware of His plans. If not, or are expecting some different outcome, then it may be that many will lose their faith in the fiery test to come. 1 Peter 4:12

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Okay so end of millenium Revelation 20:7-8

7When the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison, 8and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the seashore.


Then Armageddon described in
Revelation 16:14-16

14for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty. 15(“Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who stays awake and keeps his clothes, so that he will not walk about naked and men will not see his shame.”) 16And they gathered them together to the place which in Hebrew is called Har-Magedon.

And again in.
Revelation 19:19-21

and slave,eboth small and great.” 19And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who was sitting on the horse and against his army. 20And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presencef had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur. 21And the rest were slain by the sword that came from the mouth of him who was sitting on the horse, and all the birds were gorged with their flesh.


These are the 2 major wars. The first one I described Revelation 20:7-8 described as the end of the millennium (mentioning Gog and Magog) and the second 2 examples are of Armageddon...just before the false prophet and ac are thrown into the lake of fire. Revelation 19:19-21 and 16:14-16.

I guess you are saying that Ezekiel 38 is Gog Magog? Then Psalms 83 is another? In addition to the 2 I have mentioned above?

keras said:

I apologize to anyone I have upset by my posts.
I do get frustrated sometimes by people who are on the forum just to push their own agenda's and by those when the truth of scripture is presented, simply can't see it. So I do get a little forceful sometimes, consequently causing upset. However, the ancient prophets also caused upset by what they said and my task is to present their Words, so basically, opposition to my posts is unavoidable.

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I forgive you brother. Just know that others may have a different interpretation of the scripture than the one you have. That is why we have pre-trib, post-trib, mid-trib, and pan-trib. Now can we get back to the topic? By the way, I have no agenda other than reading and learning. I do respect your scholarship even though sometimes I do not agree with you.

Fusion77 said:

I guess you are saying that Ezekiel 38 is Gog Magog? Then Psalms 83 is another? In addition to the 2 I have mentioned above?

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Yes, that is what the prophets tell us. Four 'wars' to come.
Do not be mistaken, the G/M attack will happen before the Return, onto a new nation who have recently been gathered out of world and are dwelling safely without walls......Ezekiel 38:8 & 11 This is so the Lord can magnify Himself and be known.....Ezekiel 38:23
At the end of the Millennium, there will be another attack, of a similar size and in the same area. A type of the previous G/M attack.

Thanks, Handmaid. The 3 trib positions you mention, are when people think a rapture will occur. I absolutely refute a rapture to heaven at any time for any living person. That outcome is never told to us in the Bible. What we are told, is how the Lord will bless His people as they live in all of the Holy Land.

FYI, I am not going to be posting for 4 days, as I go to help at a YWAM camp.
All of my writings are free at logostelos.info

keras said:

Yes, that is what the prophets tell us. Four 'wars' to come.
Do not be mistaken, the G/M attack will happen before the Return, onto a new nation who have recently been gathered out of world and are dwelling safely without walls......Ezekiel 38:8 & 11 This is so the Lord can magnify Himself and be known.....Ezekiel 38:23
At the end of the Millennium, there will be another attack, of a similar size and in the same area. A type of the previous G/M attack.

Thanks, Handmaid. The 3 trib positions you mention, are when people think a rapture will occur. I absolutely refute a rapture to heaven at any time for any living person. That outcome is never told to us in the Bible. What we are told, is how the Lord will bless His people as they live in all of the Holy Land.

FYI, I am not going to be posting for 4 days, as I go to help at a YWAM camp.
All of my writings are free at logostelos.info

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I'm sure the general consensus is, that Ezekiel 38-39 war is not Armageddon. However, there are some similarities. I have heard both sides to the argument. The side that advocates for them being the same war, has used this comparison.

Ezekiel 39:17-18

17“As for you, son of man, thus says the Lord GOD: Speak to the birds of every sort and to all beasts of the field, ‘Assemble and come, gather from all around to the sacrificial feast that I am preparing for you, a great sacrificial feast on the mountains of Israel, and you shall eat flesh and drink blood. 18You shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth—of rams, of lambs, and of he-goats, of bulls, all of them fat beasts of Bashan.


Revelation 19:17-19

17Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly directly overhead, “Come, gather for the great supper of God, 18to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all men, both free and slave,eboth small and great.”

keras said:

Yes, that is what the prophets tell us. Four 'wars' to come.
Do not be mistaken, the G/M attack will happen before the Return, onto a new nation who have recently been gathered out of world and are dwelling safely without walls......Ezekiel 38:8 & 11 This is so the Lord can magnify Himself and be known.....Ezekiel 38:23
At the end of the Millennium, there will be another attack, of a similar size and in the same area. A type of the previous G/M attack.

Thanks, Handmaid. The 3 trib positions you mention, are when people think a rapture will occur. I absolutely refute a rapture to heaven at any time for any living person. That outcome is never told to us in the Bible. What we are told, is how the Lord will bless His people as they live in all of the Holy Land.

FYI, I am not going to be posting for 4 days, as I go to help at a YWAM camp.
All of my writings are free at logostelos.info

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Quite interesting how many of the peoples listed here in Psalms 83 are in Saudi Arabia right now. Ammon, Moab, Hagrites, Edom, Ishmaelites. Jordan, Egypt, Arab nations including Saudi Arabia. Quite interesting how it appears God will do to them what happened to Midian. The account in Judges 7, as a mention of Oreb and Zeeb is made.


Psalms 83:1-11

1Do not remain quiet;
Do not be silent and, O God, do not be still.
2For behold, Your enemies make an uproar,
 And those who hate You have exalted themselves.
3They make shrewd plans against Your people,
 And conspire together against Your treasured ones.
4They have said, “Come, and let us wipe them out as a nation,
 That the name of Israel be remembered no more.”
5For they have conspired together with one mind;
 Against You they make a covenant:
6The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites,
 Moab and the Hagrites;
7Gebal and Ammon and Amalek,
 Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre;
8Assyria also has joined with them;
 They have become a help to the children of Lot. 

Selah.
9Deal with them as with Midian,
 As with Sisera and Jabin at the torrent of Kishon,
10Who were destroyed at En-dor,
 Who became as dung for the ground.
11Make their nobles like Oreb and Zeeb
 And all their princes like Zebah and Zalmunna,

Hmm? What was it that happened with Midian? The sword was turned against one another, or against brother. Sure sounds like Haggai 2:22.
22and to overthrow the throne of kingdoms. I am about to destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the nations, and overthrow the chariots and their riders. And the horses and their riders shall go down, every one by the sword of his brother.

Judges 7:22

22When they blew 300 trumpets, the LORD set the sword of one against another even throughout the whole army; and the army fled as far as Beth-[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]tah toward Zererah, as far as the edge of Abel-meholah, by Tabbath.

Judges7:25 here's the mention of Zeeb and Oreb. Just to be clear it's not speaking of Moses victory over Midian in Numbers 32.

25They captured the two leaders of Midian, Oreb and Zeeb, and they killed Oreb at the rock of Oreb, and they killed Zeeb at the wine press of Zeeb, while they pursued Midian; and they brought the heads of Oreb and Zeeb to Gideon from across the Jordan.



Oh, and what happened to Sisera? Killed by a tent peg by someone that king Jair was at peace with.


In the manner that each was killed by the sword of another (brother). Also, because it mentions the arabs in Psalm 83, It sure Sounds a lot like Haggai 2:22 as many Arab nations are ruled by a king.

22and to overthrow the throne of kingdoms. I am about to destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the nations, and overthrow the chariots and their riders. And the horses and their riders shall go down, every one by the sword of his brother.

Also interesting how it speaks of the throne of kingdoms of the nations being overthrown. How many kingdoms among the nations are there? There's quite a few Arab nations that fit the bill. i.e. Saudi Arabia, Morocco,Jordan, Qatar, Kuwait, Oman, UAE ,and other nations in that are in Sauidi Arabia now are ruled by a king. These also describe many of the people's mentioned in Psalms 83.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is going happen in the next few days. But, that this could represent the nations that are affected in what is about to transpire. This is just setting the stage for what is likely to happen this year, or possibly next year.

I realize you don't think there is a war to come. I must disagree, as I see what happened in Midian as being a battle. Orchestrated by God, but where brother went down by the sword of another. Just like Haggai 2:22. If Psalms 83 is to happen like Midian did, it will be a battle of sorts.

Fusion77 said:

I realize you don't think there is a war to come. I must disagree, as I see what happened in Midian as being a battle. Orchestrated by God, but where brother went down by the sword of another. Just like Haggai 2:22. If Psalms 83 is to happen like Midian did, it will be a battle of sorts.

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Sure: God used Gideon and his 300 then and His ability to put a spirit of confusion onto the Midianites.
But read carefully Psalms 83 - it says: As a fire rages thru the forest.....pursue them with Your tempest....let them suffer disgrace and perish.
In Haggai 2:22, my REBible does not have the word 'everyone' .....riders will fall by the sword of their comrades.

There WILL be a sudden judgement/ punishment by fire onto the Lord's enemies, many prophesies prove it. There is war now in the ME region and only intervention by God will sort it out.

keras said:

Sure: God used Gideon and his 300 then and His ability to put a spirit of confusion onto the Midianites.
But read carefully Psalms 83 - it says: As a fire rages thru the forest.....pursue them with Your tempest....let them suffer disgrace and perish.
In Haggai 2:22, my REBible does not have the word 'everyone' .....riders will fall by the sword of their comrades.

There WILL be a sudden judgement/ punishment by fire onto the Lord's enemies, many prophesies prove it. There is war now in the ME region and only intervention by God will sort it out.

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Here's what the interlinear from the Original language says.

keras said:

Sure: God used Gideon and his 300 then and His ability to put a spirit of confusion onto the Midianites.
But read carefully Psalms 83 - it says: As a fire rages thru the forest.....pursue them with Your tempest....let them suffer disgrace and perish.
In Haggai 2:22, my REBible does not have the word 'everyone' .....riders will fall by the sword of their comrades.

There WILL be a sudden judgement/ punishment by fire onto the Lord's enemies, many prophesies prove it. There is war now in the ME region and only intervention by God will sort it out.

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the original language in Haggai 2:22 does say everyone H376. Although it could be translated different ways. That's how the interlinear translates it though.

Psalms 83:13-14

13O my God, make them like the whirling dust,
Like chaff before the wind.

14Like fire that burns the forest
And like a flame that sets the mountains on fire,

The Lord is behind this event to come. He will cause these peoples to turn into chaff (stubble). Also, to make them like fire that burns the forest. (Nuclear event?)

It will be the Lord who orchestrates these events. However, as in Midian, brother will go down by brother. Just as the Lord was behind the victory in Midian, He will overthrow the thrones of these Royal kingdoms.

I have a Strongs too.
iysh, H376 refers to individuals, people of every level, not necessarily everyone. Confirmed by Isaiah 24:6, 2 Thess 1:6-10

But as to what the Lord has planned to do when the Islamic confederation commence their attack on Israel, we have many other prophesies to inform us, including the result of His action.
The entire Middle East region will be devastated and depopulated in one Day, turned to stubble, as you quote. Isaiah 13:9-14
It will not and cannot be a nuke war, as it is impossible for the holy Land to be polluted by radiation.

keras said:

I have a Strongs too.
iysh, H376 refers to individuals, people of every level, not necessarily everyone. Confirmed by Isaiah 24:6, 2 Thess 1:6-10

But as to what the Lord has planned to do when the Islamic confederation commence their attack on Israel, we have many other prophesies to inform us, including the result of His action.
The entire Middle East region will be devastated and depopulated in one Day, turned to stubble, as you quote. Isaiah 13:9-14
It will not and cannot be a nuke war, as it is impossible for the holy Land to be polluted by radiation.

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Yes, I see that the word can be translated differently. However, the direct interlinear translation from original text in Haggai 2:22 is "Everyone." That is how the direct interlinear from the original language translates the form of that word. Possibly because it speaks of horses and their riders, and that is plural.
Of course, I don't take this to mean everyone will perish. Possibly a major devastation to the soldiers, tanks armored vehicles Etc.


There is no doubt that the day of the Lord is what is explained in Isaiah 13:9-14 describes. However, this war which is soon to come, will not be the Day of the Lord. The Day of the Lord represents a separate event. I absolutely agree with the fact that there are many prophecies which describe the Day of the Lord. This war will not be the Day of the Lord. Also, that somehow, the Holy Land will escape radiation. While other parts of the world, will possibly be uninhabitable.

I just see it a little differently, and believe there is a war coming before the Day of The Lord.

Fusion77 said:

Yes, I see that the word can be translated differently. However, the direct interlinear translation from original text in Haggai 2:22 is "Everyone." That is how the direct interlinear from the original language translates the form of that word. Possibly because it speaks of horses and their riders, and that is plural.
Of course, I don't take this to mean everyone will perish. Possibly a major devastation to the soldiers, tanks armored vehicles Etc.

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We are in agreement here. But my Revised English Bible does not have 'everyone'.

Fusion77 said:

I just see it a little differently, and believe there is a war coming before the Day of The Lord.

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Many wars have come: 2 world wars, any number of nasty skirmishes and what is happening right now in Syria is war.
Scripture is clear, the day the enemy try to attack Israel, will be the Day He destroys them. Ezekiel 7:14, Isaiah 6:11-13, Amos 2:14-16, Jeremiah 50:2-27, Nahum 1:3-6, Psalms 79:5-6, Isaiah 66:15-17

keras said:

We are in agreement here. But my Revised English Bible does not have 'everyone'.

Many wars have come: 2 world wars, any number of nasty skirmishes and what is happening right now in Syria is war.
Scripture is clear, the day the enemy try to attack Israel, will be the Day He destroys them. Ezekiel 7:14, Isaiah 6:11-13, Amos 2:14-16, Jeremiah 50:2-27, Nahum 1:3-6, Psalms 79:5-6, Isaiah 66:15-17

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Most definitely, when the nations gather and come against Israel. That will be the Day of the Lord. There will be more nations than as described in Psalms 83.

The interesting thing is, that psalms 83 doesn't describe the nations coming against Israel. It only describes them conspiring against Israel and Exaulting themselves. Also, hating the true God.



Psalms 83:1-5

1O God, do not remain quiet;
Do not be silent and, O God, do not be still.

2For behold, Your enemies make an uproar,
And those who hate You have exalted themselves.

3They make shrewd plans against Your people,
And conspire together against Your treasured ones.

4They have said, “Come, and let us wipe them out as a nation,
That the name of Israel be remembered no more.”

5For they have conspired together with one mind;
Against You they make a covenant:


See, it doesn't say they come against Israel. Only that they make plans to wipe Israel out as a nation.


Also, in my opinion there are only 3 wars.it appears to me as though Ezekiel 38-39 is the same as the Day of the Lord. I know it doesn't mention all the nations. However, I think the similarities are to great to dismiss.


Micah 4:1-4

1And it will come about in the last days
That the mountain of the house of the LORD
Will be established as the chief of the mountains.
It will be raised above the hills,
And the peoples will stream to it.

2Many nations will come and say,
“Come and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD
And to the house of the God of Jacob,
That He may teach us about His ways
And that we may walk in His paths.”
For from Zion will go forth the law,
Even the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

3And He will judge between many peoples
And render decisions for mighty, distant nations.
Then they will hammer their swords into plowshares
And their spears into pruning hooks;
Nation will not lift up sword against nation,
And never again will they train for war.

4Each of them will sit under his vine
And under his fig tree,
With no one to make them afraid,
For the mouth of the LORD of hosts has spoken

The melting of the weapons, certainly appears to be what Ezekiel 39:9-10 speaks of.

9“Then those who inhabit the cities of Israel will go out and make fires with the weapons and burn them, both shields and bucklers, bows and arrows, war clubs and spears, and for seven years they will make fires of them. 10“They will not take wood from the field or gather firewood from the forests, for they will make fires with the weapons; and they will take the spoil of those who despoiled them and seize the plunder of those who plundered them,” declares the Lord GOD.


Of course, there is also the feast of the birds. Which is described in Ezekiel 39 and also at the battle of Armageddon.

Ezekiel 39:17-18

17“As for you, son of man, thus says the Lord GOD: Speak to the birds of every sort and to all beasts of the field, ‘Assemble and come, gather from all around to the sacrificial feast that I am preparing for you, a great sacrificial feast on the mountains of Israel, and you shall eat flesh and drink blood. 18You shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth—of rams, of lambs, and of he-goats, of bulls, all of them fat beasts of Bashan.


Revelation 19:17-19

17Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly directly overhead, “Come, gather for the great supper of God, 18to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all men, both free and slave,eboth small and great.”


To me there is sufficient evidence, to make the determination in my heart that there are 3 major "wars" that will transpire. 1 war wherein, brother falls by the sword of another (brother). Soon to happen.

Then the Day of the Lord. Then lastly, the end of the millennium war.

keras said:

We are in agreement here. But my Revised English Bible does not have 'everyone'.

Many wars have come: 2 world wars, any number of nasty skirmishes and what is happening right now in Syria is war.
Scripture is clear, the day the enemy try to attack Israel, will be the Day He destroys them. Ezekiel 7:14, Isaiah 6:11-13, Amos 2:14-16, Jeremiah 50:2-27, Nahum 1:3-6, Psalms 79:5-6, Isaiah 66:15-17

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Most definitely, when the nations gather and come against Israel. That will be the Day of the Lord. There will be more and/or different nations than as described in Psalms 83.

The interesting thing is, that psalms 83 doesn't describe the nations coming against Israel. It only describes them conspiring against Israel and Exaulting themselves. Also, hating the true God.



Psalms 83:1-5

1O God, do not remain quiet;
Do not be silent and, O God, do not be still.

2For behold, Your enemies make an uproar,
And those who hate You have exalted themselves.

3They make shrewd plans against Your people,
And conspire together against Your treasured ones.

4They have said, “Come, and let us wipe them out as a nation,
That the name of Israel be remembered no more.”

5For they have conspired together with one mind;
Against You they make a covenant:


See, it doesn't say they come against Israel. Only that they make plans to wipe Israel out as a nation.


Also, in my opinion there are only 3 wars.it appears to me as though Ezekiel 38-39 is the same as the Day of the Lord. I know it doesn't mention all the nations. However, I think the similarities are to great to dismiss.


Micah 4:1-4

1And it will come about in the last days
That the mountain of the house of the LORD
Will be established as the chief of the mountains.
It will be raised above the hills,
And the peoples will stream to it.

2Many nations will come and say,
“Come and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD
And to the house of the God of Jacob,
That He may teach us about His ways
And that we may walk in His paths.”
For from Zion will go forth the law,
Even the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

3And He will judge between many peoples
And render decisions for mighty, distant nations.
Then they will hammer their swords into plowshares
And their spears into pruning hooks;
Nation will not lift up sword against nation,
And never again will they train for war.

4Each of them will sit under his vine
And under his fig tree,
With no one to make them afraid,
For the mouth of the LORD of hosts has spoken

The melting of the weapons, certainly appears to be what Ezekiel 39:9-10 speaks of.

9“Then those who inhabit the cities of Israel will go out and make fires with the weapons and burn them, both shields and bucklers, bows and arrows, war clubs and spears, and for seven years they will make fires of them. 10“They will not take wood from the field or gather firewood from the forests, for they will make fires with the weapons; and they will take the spoil of those who despoiled them and seize the plunder of those who plundered them,” declares the Lord GOD.


Of course, there is also the feast of the birds. Which is described in Ezekiel 39 and also at the battle of Armageddon.

Ezekiel 39:17-18

17“As for you, son of man, thus says the Lord GOD: Speak to the birds of every sort and to all beasts of the field, ‘Assemble and come, gather from all around to the sacrificial feast that I am preparing for you, a great sacrificial feast on the mountains of Israel, and you shall eat flesh and drink blood. 18You shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth—of rams, of lambs, and of he-goats, of bulls, all of them fat beasts of Bashan.


Revelation 19:17-19

17Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly directly overhead, “Come, gather for the great supper of God, 18to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all men, both free and slave,eboth small and great.”


To me there is sufficient evidence, to make the determination in my heart that there are 3 major "wars" that will transpire. 1 war wherein, brother falls by the sword of another (brother). Soon to happen.

Then the Day of the Lord. Then lastly, the end of the millennium war.

Double post

Did anyone see where Saudi Arabia announced that they too have the Nuclear bomb?

Handmaid for Jesus said:

Did anyone see where Saudi Arabia announced that they too have the Nuclear bomb?

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That's interesting. I had been hearing, as of late, that they likely had one. Also, That they would possibly be testing soon. I Had no idea that they've had one for 2 years.

I wonder how far out Iran is from having a nuclear bomb? Or, If they already have one. I know it's been reported that North Korea was preparing for a preemptive nuclear strike.

Fusion77 said:

That's interesting. I had been hearing, as of late, that they likely had one. Also, That they would possibly be testing soon. I Had no idea that they've had one for 2 years.

I wonder how far out Iran is from having a nuclear bomb? Or, If they already have one. I know it's been reported that North Korea was preparing for a preemptive nuclear strike.

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So this really ups the ante in the ME with everyone saber rattling their nukes. I think Iran already has one.