Exactly. Socialism is what's yours is mine mentality while charity is what's mine is yours.Well, if you make an above average income by all means share it willingly, but that is not socialism.
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Exactly. Socialism is what's yours is mine mentality while charity is what's mine is yours.Well, if you make an above average income by all means share it willingly, but that is not socialism.
and charity involves being willing to give it and it can come in a gift or a loan.Exactly. Socialism is what's yours is mine mentality while charity is what's mine is yours.
What's your point? What I do with my money is totally irrelevant to the discussion as to what socialism or capitalism is, or what their merits may or not be. Try to stay on topic.Well, if you make an above average income by all means share it willingly, but that is not socialism.
What you do with your money is up to you and it should not be the case that we have socialist ideals share if you want, but it should not be required.What's your point? What I do with my money is totally irrelevant to the discussion as to what socialism or capitalism is, or what their merits may or not be. Try to stay on topic.
It's called competition. If you hate your job or what it pays then find a better one. I've been through more than a few and it works every time: whoever offers the best wages for my time gets my employment.
It's not the government's job to tell businesses what to pay or how they should run their company. Citizens and employees determine what they feel is fair. If they have poor working conditions and bad wages then don't work there and don't spend your money on their products.
What you do with your money is up to you and it should not be the case that we have socialist ideals share if you want, but it should not be required.
No, that is NOT what socialism is about. Quite the opposite in fact. You have been fooled.Exactly. Socialism is what's yours is mine mentality ...
Again, what you describe is NOT socialism. In fact what you describe better fits capitalism.What you do with your money is up to you and it should not be the case that we have socialist ideals share if you want, but it should not be required.
It could be argued that Acts 4 is a good example of Social Anarchism (AKA Libertarian Socialism - my favourite kind of socialism). I'm all for that. If anyone did it it could be the beginning of a grass-roots Christian anarchic-socialist revolution!If the Church stopped voting for socialist politicians, and instead started living like the church in Acts 4, then we would have REAL change. Change you can "believe" in.
Yep, it's the same here is Australia. Our so-called socialist Labor Party are not just centre-right, they are far right. The poor conservative Liberal Party are being pushed so far to the right to get out of their way, that they are literally condoning the torture of babies. (It's ok, they are only refugee babies, most of them aren't even white.)Ironically, conservatives have rehabilitated the term socialism. By calling anything and everything left of Ted Cruz "socialism," they've managed to dilute any negative connotations the word once had. If the center left policies of President Obama are now considered "socialism," then it's not surprising so many people have a positive view of "socialism." Ask people if they support an end to private enterprise, and government ownership of industry and you'd find a quite different result.
It's quite disturbing the number of people posting here who are impassioned opponents of socialism, yet clearly don't have the first clue about even the basics of socialism.
By all means show your opposition to socialism. However, putting up straw-men and then knocking them down doesn't advance the debate one iota.
I am pushing the idea of socialism, not because I think it's the best system out there, but because so many people oppose it without knowing what it is. I would love someone here to come up with one convincing argument as to what is wrong with it. Or even one unconvincing argument that actually acknowledges what socialism is all about.
So far the only arguments posted here opposing socialism are by people who haven't a clue what it is. What you are opposing is NOT socialism. I probably agree with some your arguments. So, we all oppose this other thing that isn't socialism; blooming wonderful, we have all of us lost the debate! And knowledge hasn't advanced at all.
Your statements about the mentality of the younger generation mirrors that of previous generations going back centuries.
It could be argued that Acts 4 is a good example of Social Anarchism (AKA Libertarian Socialism - my favourite kind of socialism). I'm all for that. If anyone did it it could be the beginning of a grass-roots Christian anarchic-socialist revolution!
Society has gotten worse and worse with each generation? Data objectively show it's gotten better, despite what the rose-colored glasses of nostalgia may say.Maybe there's something to it.
Good question!So why do you support socialism? As a Christian, do you support helping people? You do realize that all politicians are dishonest, and when we claim that they are helping do Jesus work, then Jesus gets blamed when they screw it up. We dont need to appose socialism, but we dont need to support it either. Jesus is not a socialist, capitalist or communist. He is holy. Totally separate from worldly politics.
Yes I have anecdotes
You have evidence for that? I have to think economic and technological progress would have ground to a standstill long ago if that were always a problem.
citation neededStandards have been dumbed down,
What you say about the videos is true, and that's what I originally thought when this stuff started cropping up. But it's sort of like the Bill Cosby rape allegations - there comes a point where the sheer quantity has to be seen as a quality (of truth). As I said, the videos are a flood, like a cottage industry, they're on news shows, comedy shows, all over YouTube. The fact that you can find even one U.S. college student that thinks France is a planet should be very disturbing to us all.
No, I'm not advocating a political church. That's why I used the word "anarchistic". Anarchism means not giving authority to anyone who doesn't deserve it. If I were a post-millennialist I would definitely be an anarchist (equals an Acts 4 church).We cant marry politics with faith. Politicians lie and that is darkness. Christ is THE Way, Truth, and Life. Hes the Light of the world. Darkness and light have no fellowship. Paul tells us this when he teaches us not to be yoked with unbelievers. Politics is exactly the kind of thing Paul meant when he wrote that scripture. Political Church would be like spiritual adultery. The harlot of Babylon. Forgive me but its actually what i believe.