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There are plenty of other well documented claims about shape shifting demons, so the growing of fangs honestly does not sound very far fetched to me.

Now you could say that you don't believe his claims and therefore you believe him to be a fraud, but I would be very careful to dismiss seemingly incredible claims when it comes to anything demonic for two reasons.

1. I've read a lot about other people's experiences with demons and shape shifting and sex are two very common themes. Don't forget that the book of Genesis talks about angels having sex with humans and begetting the nephilim.
2. The spiritual world is a world very much unlike our own, so to look at that world from our point of view we have absolutely no business claiming what is possible or impossible because our viewpoint is extremely limited. It would be like a plumber telling a nano-scientists what's possible or impossible in the world of nano-technology. He simply wouldn't know what's possible in nano-technology, just like we simply don't know what's possible in the spirit world.

If you dismiss everything that you believe to be impossible then you're closing your mind to understanding new things. If there's one thing I know for sure it's that as humans we do not understand everything, let alone in our physical world, but certainly not in the spiritual world that surrounds us.
 
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There are plenty of other well documented claims about shape shifting demons, so the growing of fangs honestly does not sound very far fetched to me.
It has nothing to do with Masonry, though, and even your "expert" there did not say it does. This was just one of the many phases of his life that he went through looking for meaning.
 
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What's his name? My kindle isn't playing very many videos tonight.
I'll Google him, but I might not trust what I find.
His name is something like Bill Schnobleon. He is well known for fabricating stories to make himself appear to be something he isnt.
He use to reinvent himself evry few years to remain relevent. Even well known anti-masons have found him to be dishonest and have disowned him and his stories.
 
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His name is something like Bill Schnobleon. He is well known for fabricating stories to make himself appear to be something he isnt.
He use to reinvent himself evry few years to remain relevent. Even well known anti-masons have found him to be dishonest and have disowned him and his stories.
I knew it, but was afraid to ask. I ran across him about 16yrs ago. Thought I recognized him.
I agree. I think he just wants attention.
 
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QUOTE="LastSeven, post: 69235198, member: 268387"]There are plenty of other well documented claims about shape shifting demons, so the growing of fangs honestly does not sound very far fetched to me.

I have seen plenty, but none that were documented unless that simply means published.
Now you could say that you don't believe his claims and therefore you believe him to be a fraud, but I would be very careful to dismiss seemingly incredible claims when it comes to anything demonic for two reasons.
I agree it is important to be polite.
1. I've read a lot about other people's experiences with demons and shape shifting and sex are two very common themes. Don't forget that the book of Genesis talks about angels having sex with humans and begetting the nephilim.
Shifting materially is a difficult concept for me to digest, but the idea that the viewer's sight is shifting from the material to the spiritual, has offered me a plausible explanation of this professed experience.

2. The spiritual world is a world very much unlike our own, so to look at that world from our point of view we have absolutely no business claiming what is possible or impossible because our viewpoint is extremely limited. It would be like a plumber telling a nano-scientists what's possible or impossible in the world of nano-technology. He simply wouldn't know what's possible in nano-technology, just like we simply don't know what's possible in the spirit world.

Right. So some of us like to reduce the discussion from the infinitely possible to the relatively plausible, but it is all just theorizing.
If you dismiss everything that you believe to be impossible then you're closing your mind to understanding new things. If there's one thing I know for sure it's that as humans we do not understand everything, let alone in our physical world, but certainly not in the spiritual world that surrounds us.
Very good point. It might be like comparing Jules Verne 's writing to NASA's reporting.
 
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It has nothing to do with Masonry, though, and even your "expert" there did not say it does. This was just one of the many phases of his life that he went through looking for meaning.
It could be he is both very sincere and very delusional in a high functioning way.
 
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It could be he is both very sincere and very delusional in a high functioning way.
Yes, that did cross my mind. The leather-skinned, red-eyed reptilian beings in the sky sounds more like a delusion than a conspiracy theory, and the imagined Masonic "degrees" above 33 may be in that category as well.
 
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Depends on the 33rd Degree Freemason, for even they may not know, for the book Morals and Dogma, says that they may be shown, not that they need to be shown the inner doctrines. There are honorary 33rd Degree Freemasons, which simply purchase their way to the top, for image to the organization, which is a front for the Jesuit order of Roman Catholicism, and is admitted by such by Helena P. Blavatsky, Albert Pike and others, as they even have rites and degrees of the Jesuits in it. They were to be the protestant front for Jesuit order.

Watch the series with evidences from their direct sources, the person having their material:

The Main Site:
Browse Media - Final Conflict - Amazing Discoveries TV

The Secret Behind Secret Societies:
501 - The Secret Behind Secret Societies / Final Conflict Update - Walter Veith - YouTube

Religious Controversy:
502 - Religious Controversy / Final Conflict Update - Walter Veith - YouTube

New Age Agenda:
503 - The New Age Agenda / Final Conflict Update - Walter Veith - YouTube

Behind The Scenes:
504 - Behind the Scenes / Final Conflict Update - Walter Veith - YouTube

The Final Conflict:
505 - The Final Conflict / Final Conflict Update - Walter Veith - YouTube

For instance the letter "G", they say is for all kinds of super-imposed meanings, like "God", etc, to deceive the 'outer portico', the 'goyim', the 'catechumen' of the order, but it really means the "Generative Principle", which is their god, it is the male/female function of reproduction, a sex-cult symbol, like Baphomet, the male/female cover deity, or the representation of Lucifer, in both the female, dark, and male, light sides, and yet this sex-symbol is even so much so, that it is in the middle of the compass and set square, each being a symbol of the male and female organs, and you will find it all over the place, and in various means, even upon your cereal boxes. Looks like a check mark with wheat growing out of it, which again symbolizes the female receiving the seed, reproducing. Let the highest levels of those knowing worship openly Lucifer/Satan. They so admit it in their writing.

Two hands clasped together, which is on many food products, etc, means "fides"; "faithfulness", bound together by oaths of secrecy.

The Black and White checkered squares, are the symbols of the Jesuits order, the Hegelian principle, out of Chaos - Order, Ordo Ab Chao, for the Jesuit order... "...if she shall have defined anything to be black which appears to our eyes to be white, we ought in like manner to pronounce it to be black." Let us see if the Masons are telling the truth upfront, about Albert Pike, and Others...

It is indeed a religion, formed and run by the Jesuit Order for Rome. Documented.

They openly deny [blatantly lie about, or are 'ignorant of'] the validity of Pike's continued authority individually, as well as Coil and Mackey and others like H. P. Blavatsky and Annie Bessant, and others like Alice A. Bailey, etc., but their own sites reveal the truth:

Hmm, now about Pike...

Let us start with something simple...

"Albert Pike ... He was the master genius of Masonry in America, both as scholar and artist. No other mind of equal power ever toiled so long in the service of the Craft in the New World. No other has left a nobler fame in our annals. A great American and a great Mason, the life of Pike is a part of the romance of his country. Outside the Craft he was known as a poet, journalist, soldier, jurist, orator, and his ability in so many fields fills one with amazement. Apart from the chief work of his life in Masonry, he merits honor as a philosopher and a scholar. Indeed, he was one of the richest minds of his age, resembling the sages of the ancient world in his appearance and in the quality of his mind. Those who do not know Masonry often think of him as a man whom history passed by and forgot. ...

...At last he found that Freemasonry is the Ancient Great Mysteries in disguise, it's simple emblems the repository of the highest wisdom of the Ancient World, to rescue and expound which became more and more his desire and passion. Here his words: "It began to shape itself to my intellectual vision into something imposing and majestic, solemnly mysterious and grand. It seemed to me like the Pyramids in the grandeur and loneliness, in whose yet undiscovered chambers may be hidden, for the en-lightenment of the coming generations, the sacred books of the Egyptians, so long lost to the World; like the Sphinx, half- buried in the sands. In essence, Freemasonry is more ancient than any of the world's living religions. So I came at last to see that its symbolism is its soul." ...

...By 1871 the Scottish Rite was influential and widely diffused, due, in part, to the energy and genius of its Commander. In the same year he published "Morals and Dogma," a huge manual for the instruction of the Rite, as much a compilation as a composition, able but ill-arranged, which remains to this day a monument of learning. ... since it is too valuable ... containing as it does much of the best Masonic thinking and writing in our literature. ...

...He left in the library of the House of the Temple fifteen large manuscript volumes, translations of the sacred books of the East, all written with an old- fashioned quill, in a tiny flowing hand, without blot or erasure. ...

... So passed Pike. No purer, nobler man has stood at the Altar of Freemasonry or left his story in our traditions. He was the most eminent Mason in the world, alike for his high rank, his rich culture, and his enduring service. Nor will our craft ever permit to grow dim the memory of that stately, wise, and gracious teacher - a Mason to whom the world was a Temple, a poet to whom the world was a song.
- Source: Short Talk Bulletin - Jul. 1923" - Freemason Albert Pike | Masonic Dictionary | www.masonicdictionary.com

Hmm, seems Pike and his work Morals and Dogma, is immortalized...

As for Coil and Mackey... Their Encyclopedias are still valid..."This remarkable encyclopedia [Coils'] was assembled by Henry Wilson Coil over the course of twenty-five years and was first printed in 1961. Due to its great value and long life, Coil's Masonic Encyclopedia was updated in 1995 by respected Masonic scholar Allen E. Roberts. It continues to be one of the most popular encyclopedias on Freemasonry in use today, and contains over 1750 articles. These cover the full spectrum of Masonic symbolism, jurisprudence, history, and practices all over the world. The following piece on Masonic encyclopedias, and Coil's work in particular, was written by Allen just before he completed his labors on this volume." - http://www.masonicsourcebook.com/coi...oil_review.htm

Any "oaths" sworn in this "society" will disqualify one for entering Heaven, they will be lost, as their oaths are totally anathema to Christ Jesus, so much so, that even a messenger of the Lord was sent and so verified this.

"Come out of Her My People..."

It is completely untrue that it's a front for the Jesuits. The current pope is a Jesuit and previously stated by other popes that Catholicism and Masonry are incompatible.
 
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Yes, that did cross my mind. The leather-skinned, red-eyed reptilian beings in the sky sounds more like a delusion than a conspiracy theory, and the imagined Masonic "degrees" above 33 may be in that category as well.
Well, whatever reality really is, Satan gets the scales and tail in scripture, & I have heard (from extra-scriptural sources, of course) that our species is an experiment in peace making, between the various reptilian and mammal species in competition for Earth.
Of course it's complicated, but boils down to us being a mammalian superstructure on a reptilian chassis. This is reflected visibly in our early embryonic stages, and the brain structure of frontal and cerebral cortexes with the ... it's escaping me... I can't remember the core structure associated with processing intrinsic & autonomic responses...

Cool beans, huh? Ya can't find science fiction that exotic!
 
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