Yes, that's the other side of the story that you seem unfamiliar with. For decades I only knew your side. The Reformation is not what you've been taught.
Yes, that's the other side of the story that you seem unfamiliar with. For decades I only knew your side. The Reformation is not what you've been taught.
The almost inescapable conclusion that comes from this, though, is that there is not a knock-down obvious argument that will show people that they ought to be Catholic (or Orthodox or Anglican or whatever.)
I disagree. I believe that is why hundreds of protestant pastors have converted to Catholicism in recent years.
The majority of those in our local Anglican church were confirmed as Catholics.I think you'll find there are converts in all directions. I could spit and find many former-Catholic Anglicans, and I expect many of our Orthodox and Lutheran members could say the same. "Protestant" isn't really a very useful designation in this instance - I suspect what you may mean is something like evangelical or non-denominational.
In any case, I don't think you will find you quote-mines are very effective with people who actually read those texts, and there are plenty of them here, from many different religious backgrounds.
I think you'll find there are converts in all directions. I could spit and find many former-Catholic Anglicans, and I expect many of our Orthodox and Lutheran members could say the same. "Protestant" isn't really a very useful designation in this instance - I suspect what you may mean is something like evangelical or non-denominational.
In any case, I don't think you will find you quote-mines are very effective with people who actually read those texts, and there are plenty of them here, from many different religious backgrounds.
Don't more than a few of us realize that NO denomination has all of the Truth?
I don't care if your "church" goes back to the very beginning of time and i do not care how many "traditions" you have or who handed them down. All churches are packed full of man's traditions.
Jesus Christ did NOT form the Catholic church or the Baptist church or the methodist church or the Anglican church or any of the denominations that exist today.
People need to get over themselves on this matter. Claiming that your particular church is THEE church is mockery. It mocks our Holy God. Jesus started the one true church and there are members of His church all around you. They can be found in just about every church you can name, and furthermore, all churches have unsaved members. That's the way it is.
Sorry, but this stuff about being the original church and those believers not attending your church as being separated from the True church and in need of returning is foolishness. There are millions of believers around the world getting along just fine without your doctrines.
Get over yourselves!!!!
He founded ONE Church, which is the Catholic Church. Only the Catholic Church can trace its beginning to the apostles.
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