To our Father

Peace to you in Jesus Christ.

Its been a couple years since I even posted on this OP, and I came back to it looking for one particular thing, and when did I noticed that since the change over (when the forum had changed) it did something to some of the links, the fonts and spacing etc so I just combed over them and touched up some of the worse ones and replaced some of the original links where I could (when I actually felt like deleting them seeing they are not currently some of my favs). When doing so I fell upon this video of this man taking this up and I just thought this one was sort of cool how it was done.

Many of the vids here are outdated to my more current likes ofcourse, but I had posted the original by its artist in post #16 and this guy plays the same thing but in it he becomes his own orchastra as the screen splits like 8 ways (with him playing all) which I just thought was a really cool idea.


So I was going to post that along with an update to a post I did on Melchizedek which is found here

http://www.christianforums.com/threads/melchisedec-jesus-son-king-lord-priest-etc.7855820/

But I cant because it wont allow me (after the change over) to post the whole thing in one post (as it used to allow me to) so I will just post it in parts (as one that way) later because there is more of another perspective I want to add into that one also, which come from this thread

http://www.christianforums.com/thre...is-it-who-has-it.7908407/page-3#post-68649547

Post #57 for the most part, but I want to take a stab at showing that better if it is possible.

Thats all, God bless you

Editing this one in, I like this instrumental

Rick Otto said:

Love ya sis, but that first come should've been me me me.
And that second one could've used a gangsta rap soundtrack.
Forgive me, I 'm in a rare mood!

Click to expand...

Now, what are you going on about?

I was just off changing my supporter status along with my user name. No more Fireinfolding (I'm tired of that name)

Although my first choice was Jael (under which) I would have placed "Tent Peg Impaler" (I sprained my cheek) but I got my second pick which was just off a song. "Thinking out Loud" by Ed Sheeran which I fell upon by accident one day but I really love it, not so much the song (per se') even though that has a catching tune (not rap lol) but what I really loved about it was this unbelievable chemistry between the two (him and her) in the dance they performed (and he doesn't dance, she does) and they really pulled that off beautifully . I got my second choice. I also picked it figuring I would get lost in the sea of google searches for that song (because its very popular apparently) and has nearly a billion hits over at you tube. I never saw what a billion looks like over there.

Anyway, I don't know why I posted that other, it was sorta in the spare of the moment. I was listening to it and it hit me in the moment and I was all like, wow (hey I like this) *submit* lol

Watch out world, Rick's in a mood, how you doing Rick?

You gotta watch the back old man, you aren't getting any younger over there. I think the older we get the more susceptible we become to the quirkiness of this thing called the back. I am glad you are feeling much better bro. I am (thankfully) having quite the opposite of times with mine (as you well know its been quite a bugger for me) but I could probably do a cartwheel. Seriously, for the last couple of months I have felt like a normal person with a normal back (and you know how long that has been since I felt that way?) well over a decade. At the same time I took a break from the forums my back felt great.

Edits out the ten other feet of replying lol

Good you read the above already, I just deleted it because I measured the length of that page and thought, man, you ought to be embarrassed you can talk about nothing for so long.

Its a gift (lol)

Hey, I had a chance to go over to youtube and even to facebook to have a look, that is really great bro. Some of those facebook pages I seem locked out of sometimes which must be because I don't have an account there, but then other pages are open to everyone like the one Dawn just put up for you guys. I just saw you after so long a time, and will say, grey actually become you Rick, that is you far left in it. I actually like the photo of the four of you guys in that picture together too.

Sounds like you guys really have fun, I'm glad that brings you so much joy bro.

God bless you Rick

The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ richly bless you.

Just posting some verses here, might come back and edit more in. These are a few of what I was looking at this morning.

Luke 3:21 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened,

Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

Jesus now full of the Holy Ghost

Luke 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,

Jesus anointed with the Holy Ghost and with power

Luke 4:14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.

Acts 10:37-38 also speaks of the same as being after Johns baptism (posted below)

Jesus began to say this scripture (in Isaiah 61:1) which testified of him was fulfilled in their ears (In Luke 4:18 & 21)

Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

The same is acknowledged here after the baptism of John

Acts 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;

Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost (Luke 3:22, Isaiah 61:1) and with power (Luke 4:14): who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

For God was with Christ, and

2 Cr 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation (which is through the death of His Son, Rom 5:10)

God with us shown in Jesus Christ, the Son of God, whom God made Lord and Christ, and who shall be called Son of the Highest did the works by the Father, even as the apostles said, for God was with Him.

Who did dwell in the temple of his body, as the body is the temple of the Holy Ghost, the Spirit that lighted upon him and remained

Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

As it also says,

Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell

As Jesus said, I am not alone

John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Likewise John says,

John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

Moses bears record as Jesus said in John 5:49 shown in Duet 18:18, Jesus confirms the same in John 12:49, and the apostles confirm between them in Acts 3:32, & Acts 7:37

God gave Him for a witness,

Isaiah 55:4 Behold, I have given him for a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people.

Jesus said,

John 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

Two witnesses

John 8:18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.

John 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father?

Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.

John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

Likewise here,

John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

And again

John 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

Which agrees in Duet 18:18

John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

Even as Jesus said,

John 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

Jesus said, I am not alone, because the Father is with me.

God was with Christ.

To wit God was in Christ. We are reconciled to God through the death of His Son

After having ascended Thomas not being with them, he wouldnt believe till he saw the prints of nails

And when Jesus showed them to him

Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

And these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?

He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

As God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].

I guess thats it for now.

You know I sort of like this, moreso her sound though. Adding these.

*deletes* ... nah... I dont really like this one that much

Not much into national athems but I like the sound, the way she does this one


I think I have been the only one viewing her vids which are posted by someone posting vids by various artists. The woman singing, whose name is Bipsy was murdered so she is not with us anymore, I did want to post two of her songs I did somewhat like. God bless

I keep editing this, this needed some fine tuning

Our God and Father richly bless you in Christ Jesus the Lord.

I am just combing through a picture that starts in one place (speaking to the determined counsel) which I end up tying into Philip and the eunuch and showing how the apostles proved Jeus Christ out of the scriptures (this is very basic) although I could have cleaned it up some more.

The gospel in the OT being preached

Acts 4:26 The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.

Acts 4:27 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,

Acts 4:28 For to do whatsoever thy hand and **thy counsel determined before** to be done.

Mat 27:17 **Therefore when** they were gathered together,

Pilate said unto them, Whom will ye that I release unto you?

Barabbas, or Jesus which is called Christ?

Mat 27:18 For he knew that for envy they had delivered him.

Earlier in a vision

Luke 9:30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses (the law) and Elias (the prophets):

Luke 9:31 Who appeared in glory, **and spake of his decease** which **he should accomplish** at Jerusalem.

As He says

Luke 18:31... Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things **that are written** by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.

And likewise,

Luke 23:1 And the whole multitude of them arose, **and led him** unto Pilate.

And then,

Luke 23:7 And as soon as he knew that he belonged unto Herod's jurisdiction, he sent him to Herod, who himself also was at Jerusalem at that time.

And then,

Luke 23:9 Then he questioned with him in many words; but he answered him nothing.

And then,

Luke 23:10 And the chief priests and scribes stood and vehemently accused him.

And the chief priests "moved the" people

Mark 15:13 And they cried out again, Crucify him

Which is the explanation to the name in the reading going between Philip and the eunuch, as the eunuch was reading the testimony of the prophets (even Isaiah) concerning Jesus Christ (that had come to pass in their own day). These seeing before

Even as Jesus said,

"They are they which testify of me"

And the eunuch was reading (Acts 8:32)

Isaiah 53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth:

he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter,

and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

There was one question unbeknowns to the eunuch, which was "who" (specifically) was this former prophet (Isaiah) was speaking of

Acts 8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said,

I pray thee, "of whom" speaketh the prophet "this"?

of himself, or of some other man?

The eunuch just didn't know "the who" (or the name of the one) the prophet Isaiah was speaking of (the same big question in Proverbs 30:4)

Even as the law and the prophets testify of Jesus Christ (who is the eternal life that was with the Father)

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life:
and **they are they** which testify of me. (1 John 1:2)

The eunuch was no where near alone in respects to being able to hear the voices of the prophets (See Acts 13:27) even as their own rulers were in the dark until the light come into the world and left the same (even Jesus Christ) by whom the world was made (who was that light) and yet is that same light that lighteth every man.

And now we see Philip (having the eyes of his understanding opened by Jesus Christ) concerning the things spoken of in the scripture concerning Christ and has begun to expound on him through the use of the same (even as he is led of the Spirit to do so)

Acts 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, **and began at** the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

So it shows they preached Christ out of the prophets of old (which testified not only of him, but of what had just come to pass in their own day concerning his suffering and then entering into glory)

And we know this because they ask him earlier (not knowing it was him) this...

Luke 24:18... Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things **which are come to pass there** in these days?

Being somewhat surprised because of their hopes, and they went on to recount what had occurred in their days (with Jesus Christ)

And then Jesus reproves them in those very things

Luke 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe **all that the prophets** have spoken:

Luke 24:26 **Ought not Christ to have suffered these things**, and to enter into his glory?

Luke 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, **he expounded unto them** in all the scriptures the things *concerning himself*.

As is also confirmed by them in Acts here

Acts 3:18 But **those things**, which God before had shewed **by the mouth of** all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

Even here this way

Acts 3:24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, **as many as have spoken**, have likewise foretold of these days.

Then Jesus commissions them (as God has given Jesus as commander to them as shown in Isaiah 55:4) the one Moses wrote of (as Jesus said in John 5:46) shown here (in Duet 18:18-19) And confirmed in Acts 3:22 & Acts 7:37, which helps us to understand why Jesus said this here (In John 12:48- 49) and what is said here in Acts 3:24 Lastly, as we can springboard off of all the above seeing in Jesus praying to the Father in confirmation of the same, that "I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me" (even as the doctrine he preached was not his, but his that sent Him). And as the Father sent him so did he (their commander) as God the Father made him so sends them.

Mark 16:16 And he said unto them,
Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God, as the voices of the prophets testify of Jesus Christ through whom they did preach him

And he has given commandment to these saying,

Mark 16:17 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

And then we see...

Mark 16:20 And they went forth, and preached every where...

Same with how Philip was led to preach the same to eunuch

Acts 8:29 **Then the Spirit said** unto Philip, said

Go near, and join thyself to this chariot. (who was reading the book of Isaiah)

Acts 8:30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias,

and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?

And Philip preached Jesus out of Isaiah

Acts 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and **began at the same scripture**, and preached unto him Jesus.

And even what Jesus said, and how the eunuch understood it, it shown here

Acts 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

Acts 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest (be baptized). And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

Acts 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

Acts 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that theeunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

At least we know where the Eunuch started reading, which was the book of Isaiah (these having the testimony of Christ in themselves). And as faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God (Jesus Christ is preached out of the same) as we see Philip beginning at the scripture written of him in Isaiah. Preaching Jesus Christ from them (so that the eunuch could believe). Philip having mentioned being baptized because the eunuch specifically brought this up to him (in his desire to be so) when he saw water and so he was. He both believed in Jesus Christ (through the testimony of the former prophets) God having fulfilled the same in those days even by Jesus Christ (of whom) they were all living witnesses to and he was baptized and went on his way rejoicing.

At the beginning of Jesus ministry he too began reading from a certain place about himself in the book of Isaiah also (Isaiah 61:1 being read in Luke 4:18)

Luke 4:20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.

Luke 4:21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

In otherwords, "thats me" (they are they which testify of me)

And again, just as we have written record of Phillip expounding Jesus Christ out of the book of the prophets here

Acts 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and **began at the same scripture**, and **preached unto him Jesus**.

The same is shown in Apollos this way,

Acts 18:28 For he mightily convinced the Jews, and that publickly, **shewing by the scriptures** that Jesus was Christ.

Even as is shown spoken through Abraham this way

Luke 16:31 And he said unto him,** If they hear not** Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Which is in accord with Jesus words,

John 5:46-47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

And so we see Paul expounding and testifying of the kingdom of God

Acts 28:23 And... **Persuading them** concerning Jesus, **both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets** from morning till evening.

Even as our Lord said of the scriptures this,

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and** they are they which testify of me**

As He is the eternal life that was with the Father (See also Prov 30:4)

Psalm 40:7 Then said I, Lo, I come: **in the volume of the book it is written of me**,

And as Paul said,

Acts 26:22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, **saying none other things than those** which the prophets and Moses did say **should come**

The one leading you to Christ since he can be expounded out of them. These are they with a readiness of mind

Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, **and searched the scriptures** daily, **whether those things were so**

Jesus again,

John 5:46 For **had ye** believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

The apostles confirming,

Acts 7:37 **This is that** Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; **him shall ye hear**

Jesus showing them earlier

Luke 24:27 And beginning **at Moses** and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things **concerning himself**

But Jesus also says,

John 5:47 But if ye believe not **his writings**, how shall ye believe **my words?**

As they testify of him, likewise he also says,

John 17:8 For I have **given unto them** the words **which thou gavest** me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

God richly bless you in Christ Jesus

And, I keep saying I am done editing but I love editing more into things like this, sometimes it helps and other times it doesnt (like if its way too much).

But in that last verse, since Christ gave them the words that He himself (even Moses testifies of) were given him of God, and would be as words given by one Shepherd (or as letting God be true and every man a liar in contrast) even as Christ said He did not speak from himself and we are told to speak the same things (having the same mind).

This is cool these together

I give praise to our great God and Father, even of our Lord Jesus Christ!

How great He is!

Good morning to ya's.

Well, I may edit into the above as I am looking at something else as well, hopefully post that, not sure. I hadnt posted on here for a couple of years and I am sorting through what I dont think I have posted (at least not here) but I am rather unorganized with my stuff.

And I am just posting these two because I like them



Our God and Father richly bless you in Christ Jesus His Son

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, and peace be unto you in our precious Savior. I was gathering together some older things within the last couple of years to post here, which is more in more of a study form, I really have to shake that off, takes me a bit to do that, but I have a few things on my plate coming to a head at present, I am hoping these will come to a close finally.

Welp, nothing a mandatory day off couldnt actually help me with (so I thank God for those too) I would likely add a couple more to that one on my own end.

Grace, in Christ and in Paul and in the measure of faith (what its for, what it does, and what it teaches us)

John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh,
and dwelt among us,
(and we beheld his glory,
the glory as of the only begotten of the Father)
full of grace and truth.

Romans 1:5
By whom we have received grace and apostleship,
for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

John 1:16
And of his fulness have all we received,
and grace for grace.

And likewise Paul said,

Ye all are partakers of my grace

Ephes 3:7
Whereof I was made a minister,
according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me
by the effectual working of his power.

2 Cr 10:6
And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience,
when your obedience is fulfilled.

Romans 6:14
For sin shall not have dominion over you:
for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

2 Cr 6:1
We then, as workers together with him,
beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.

Jesus (full of grace and truth) asked them

John 14:10
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?
the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself:
but the Father that dwelleth in me,
he doeth the works. ( & John 14:12)

Same with Paul who laboured

Who said I labour
yet not I but the grace of God which was with me

1Cr 15:10
But by the grace of God I am what I am:
and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain;
but I laboured more abundantly than they all:
yet not I, but the grace of God
which was with me.

1Ti 1:14
And the grace of our Lord
was exceeding abundant with faith and love
which is in Christ Jesus.

Romans 5:2
By whom also
we have access by faith
into this grace
wherein we stand,
and rejoice in hope
of the glory of God.

Romans 4:16
Therefore it is of faith,
that it might be by grace

The outworking of its "effect"

Romans 6:14
For sin shall not have dominion over you:
for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

"The effect"is in relation to sin's dominion over one,
likewise Paul says

Gal 5:4
Christ is become of no effect unto you,
whosoever of you are justified by the law;
ye are fallen from grace.

Gal 2:21
I do not frustrate the grace of God:
for if righteousness come by the law,
then Christ is dead in vain.

He also speaks of "the effectual working" which is "in" the measure, even as he writes each man hath received "the measure" of faith "by the which" we have access "into" this grace (which is the power) Paul did strive according to (and out of the same) come his own labors. Paul even emphasizing (when speaking of his laboring) saying, "I labour" (because he did so) "Yet not I" but the grace of God that was "with me". Even as the Father (the God of all grace) doeth the works (in Jesus Christ). The Father that dwelleth within Him doeth the works.

For the same faith is not alone in the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, as the grace is also "the effectual working" in the measure of faith (by the same Paul did strive). Not even alone given the same faith 1 Ti 1:14 "worketh by" love. As we are given to know that God is love, which would make us "co labourers together" with Him in the same gift (of the Spirit) even as by the same the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts.

Paul's own labours springing out of the grace of God that was with him, striving according to the working of His power. Even as God's power is being made perfect in weakness.

Whereas the law is perfect for "the converting of" the soul (in order to lead one to Jesus Christ) but the law itself "made nothing" perfect. Weak as it was through the flesh. And Christ (the power of God) becomes of none "effect" (unto you) who are justified by the law (which is the power of sin) in our weakness (when we were in the flesh).

"The effect of" grace is that sin shall have no dominion over you for you are not under the law (which is the strength of sin while in the flesh) but under grace (the effectual working in the power of God) by Jesus Christ.

Grace is the effectual for our obedience
which is fulfilled (2 Cr 10:6)

Romans 1:5
By whom we have received grace and apostleship,
for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

Romans 6:12
Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body,
that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

Titus 2:11
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

Titus 2:12
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world.

Even as we are created in Christ Jesus "unto" good works

Titus 2:14
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Titus 2:15
These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

We are not saved by our good works but created in Christ "unto" good works

Titus 3:8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.

And these are good and profitable "unto men" and good will unto men is a good and acceptable thing.

Grace then, is the unmerited favor and the effectual power of God given for the obedience to the faith which teaches us to deny worldly and ungodly lusts and to live righteously and soberly and godly (in this present world). The result for us in that effectual (by the power that works in us) is that sin shall not have dominion over us under it. That itself is good news right there.

I think I have another one I want to put behind this more, gotta look for it, if I am locked out when I check back, I'll be back "whenever" (Lord willing).

God the Father richly bless you in Christ the Lord

Alrighty, I had a moment to edit this and the one above it because I wasnt happy with how I worded the in between stuff and how I laid that out that so much. But I had a moment since my timeout expired but I might have to go into another one but I hope to come back and add when I can access my page here.

Our God and Father richly bless you in Christ Jesus the Lord.

Peace to you in Christ.

Acts 1:1* The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus both began to do and to teach.

I was looking at the many other things Jesus did and said, or that he did do and did teach (as they are are mentioned like that) and was going to post them elsewhere on a topic that was looking at these but I wasnt sure I wanted to get involved in the conversation. Below various verses where these can be found.

John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

John 20:30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: (so there were other things done in their presense not written down in Johns book)

John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

John also records what his disciples did not see Jesus doing also (outside their presence)

John 7:3 His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest.

Speaking of that which Jesus did only here outside the sight of his disciples is spoken of here (since he later said that he said nothing in secret) John 18:20

John 7:4 For there is no man that doeth any thing in secret, and he himself seeketh to be known openly. If thou do these things, shew thyself to the world.

Even as we see here (whether in the disciples presence or outside them)

John 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

Makes sense also according to both of these scenarios (combined) given the number of lives touched. But also since he come into the world which was created by him and remains the same yesterday, to day and for ever, doing many things which even his disciples were not aware of (or at least were not witnesses to)

When Jesus was being cross examined here said,

John 18:20 Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing.

Although he is shown doing other things in secret (even going to the feast in secret) but he said he said nothing in secret.

So Jesus gave them the words the Father gave unto Him.

John 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

And Jesus begins to pray for them (who have been with him, who have both seen, heard and believed. These who have received the words he had given them of the Father) and he prays not for them alone but for them also who would believe in Him through their word (who heard him) and because they were living witnesses (having received the words according to his testimony).

John 20:30 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

And for those of us that followed after

John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

That which is written in the gospel of Jesus Christ even all of scripture (are they which testify of Christ) and are profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. 2 Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works

Which is what we are created in Christ unto Ephes 2:10 And therefore perfect to that effect for thoroughly furnishing us unto what we are created in Christ unto. I dont know how you can improve on perfect.

All of the same are given of one Shepherd, following the same course

Ecc 12:11 The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd. (John 17:8, Dueteronomy 18:18 -19, John 5:47, John 12:49, John 17:8, Acts 7:37, Hebrews 3:5 )

Ecc 12:12 And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh. (John 21:25 confirms this one also)

And just as what come before (being a testimony of things that would be spoken of after) in these last days, God has spoken to us by His Son, and Tim is encouraged by Paul writing,

2 Timothy 3:14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of,

2 Timothy 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

I was looking at "many other things Jesus did" some of which were in the presence of the disciples (while others things) which are shown as being done (though not specifically listed as to what exactly) but done outside their presense. And Jesus also saying that he said nothing in secret, which also makes sense because even when he spake openly he could speak and others could have had ears but just could not hear given when he did speak they were in parables and specifically of things which were hidden of old (as was spoken by the prophets) which by the same God used similitudes Hosea 12:10. So the two in combination (similitudes by the prophets formerly) and parables (by Jesus Christ) would be as being taught (through the Holy Ghost) in the handling of spiritual things with spiritual 1 Corinthians 2:13 Galations 4:24 the later showing an allegory in Abraham even as he was a prophet, and speaking by them in times past in these divers manners. But in these last days God has spoken by His Son, the Holy Ghost bringing to remebrance the things he had said, God teaching us by way of comparing these things. So the former testifies of that which was to be spoken after and that which come after spoke of hidden things of old, which is a pretty cool lay out of things, ingenious when it come to hiding things before serpents.

I hope to add in some more to this

God richly bless you

First verse * added in at the top (had found another) and thought I should add that in here.

Peace unto you in Christ Jesus our Lord, our God and Father richly bless you.

I was going to start a new thread altogether, but I dont really want do that having a thousand threads, I just want one, but from here on out (under this title still) I will change things up some and just be adding things from the scripture which show some simple various connections throughout which I would hope to refer back to (when needed)

Just short snippets which contain the same lines of things throughout, and Lord willing I will add to whichever one if more come.

These are a few I like together, notice "the words" here

Prov 12:6 The words of the wicked are to lie in wait for blood:

That is exactly what these did with Jesus Christ our Lord

Mat 22:15 Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk.

These are they who our Lord endured against himself

Their own laying in wait for his blood (after this manner) pertained to their intent as by their words which are also shown as swords (described in Psalm 55:21 & 59:7)

And these

Luke 11:54 Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, (and for what purpose?) that they might accuse him.

The words of the wicked and where are they?

Jerm 5:26 For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares;
they set a trap, they catch men.

Psalm 37:14 The wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow, to cast down the poor and needy, and to slay such as be of upright conversation.

These also make a man offender for a single word (because its by the same they seek to trap and ensnare others)

Isaiah 29:21 That make a man an offender for a word, that lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate and turn aside the just for a thing of nought.

So our Lord said to His disciples,

Luke 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom which all of your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay or contradict (and we see Acts 6:10)

Its a mouth to mouth thing

Ezek 34:10 ... For I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.

And again (full verse) the second part of the verse pertains to the mouth of deliverance

Prov 12:6 The words of the wicked are to lie in wait for blood:

but the mouth of the upright shall deliver them

And we know, that good and upright is the Lord (Psalm 25:8)
who also said I will give you a mouth) and wisdom

And we see the Lord and Paul's own deliverance out of the mouth of the lion

2 Ti 4:17 Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me, and strengthened me; that by me the preaching might be fully known, and that all the Gentiles might hear: and I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion.

Who was (as he often is) seeking whom he may devour,

Prov 12:7 The wicked are overthrown, and are not: but the house of the righteous shall stand.

This is still true today it seems

Mat 10:17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues


These were they who were tempting Jesus

I edited in the above clip of verses because I thought it would fit okay in this post. And in that one shows a little of the temptations coming to him through the religious sphere of things in that ways. I guess the more obvious example might be found in the expressed desires of Satan to sift another (for example, Simon, but anyone really) we just see an example there in the trying of his faith (which Christ prayed for) and our faith is tried also. And in the same Satan's expressed intention for Job (through a particular suffering) which was permitted to be laid upon him where all bets were on the table that Job would curse God (through what might be understood to be) the temptation in his flesh. Which was really doubled to Job (through his flesh and bone) because his own wife (who is also his flesh and bone ) seemed touched also in that her voice is joined with the Tempter's encouraging Job (to curse God and die) which is Satan's expressed desire for him for him to do. So that same temptation is echoed through the voice of Job's wife him-ward (in Job 2:5 & Job 2:9) That one would be a more obvious one Im thinking.

Our great God richly bless you in Christ Jesus the Lord

I just edited the above, I believe I have much more I could edit into the above as well, but I jump around a lot. I have taken to refining this also (and hope to edit in more also, Lord willing)

God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ be for ever blessed and may He richly bless you by Christ. Peace be unto you.

I am going over older studies and cleaning them up (and adding into them) hoping for better clarification.

Paul speaking by the Holy Ghost is speaking to those who desire to be under the law, and he asks them

Gal 4:21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?

And where does he start? (that ye might hear the law about the law) better?

Back here

Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

And he puts forth the differences between them

Gal 4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh ; but he of the freewoman was by promise

Which things are what?

Paul continues,

Gal 4:24 Which things are an allegory:

For these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

Then goes into the Jerusalem which is from above is free, the comparing (and contrasting spiritual things with spiritual in the law) as the law is spiritual even in this sense of things.

Even as we know Abraham was a prophet Gen 20:7

Hebrew also tells us similarly how God spake in divers manner by the same

Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

Just as God speaking by the prophet Hosea shows us what manner He has spoken by the same saying,

Hosea 12:10 I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets.

Showing us here that in times past God and in divers manners (such as multiplying visions) used similitudes by the ministry of the prophets

Even as we know that God now

Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds

Even of our Lord Jesus Christ it is written,

Psalm 78:2 I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old: (Mark 4:13, Mat 13:35-36 & example of one Luke 20:17)

There it is.

Similitudes by the former prophets and a parable (as prophesied by them) would be by Christ Jesus His Son (See also Mark 4:3 ) whereby Jesus said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables? The two tie in together where the comparing (as taught by the Holy Ghost) of spiritual things with spiritual are shown even in the above example (among so many)

So he (Jesus) would utter things kept secret (even as it is to the glory of God to conceal a thing but the honour of kings to search out the matter) they were "pointing forward to" Jesus Christ) and even how he would speak (which was in a parable) which had also had to do with the dark sayings "of old".Which things they also did speak as Paul says,

1 Cr 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

Not as mans wisdom teaches as he says

The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit

1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Showing the Holy Ghost would teach utilizing the above in the manners Paul described

So again, we know Abraham was a prophet, as God said,

Gen 20:7 Now therefore restore the man (Abraham) his wife;
for he is a prophet

And that God has spoken by the prophets in this way,

Hosea 12:10 I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets.

And so we can see (and observe) in Abraham's case (in respects to his things) these very things

Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

Which things again, are what?

Gal 4:24 Which things are an allegory (for again, these are the two covenants)

1Cr 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

And so we see how the Holy Ghost has demonstrated the use of symbolism in respects to two persons being something other then persons, and in this case using two women (Hagar and Sarah) and the principal of born after the flesh (in Abraham) and by the promise (the Spirit) in the same.

I hope to add to this later,

God the Father richly bless in Christ Jesus the Lord

This is nice, I thought I would post it, I love that quiet piano, and was listening to the same up to 3 am this morning (which is why I got up at 1 pm) isnt that awful? I was horrified I slept in that long. I typically dont require that much sleep (I OD'd)

Our great God and Father richly bless, I am just posting verses I was taken to here and there this morning. I really want to try to participate a little less on the boards (interacting) for awhile (just prayer and posting verses) and not much more than that. I am missing those times actually, even times before the computer.

Anyway, I had started out (here) posting just eternal life verses and went to post but then found myself filling in between with some of the same ol'. Although I really shouldnt say that because affirming the same things again and again is something we are to do and can be done in different ways (speaking the same things).

Jesus saith unto him,

I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Jesus Christ, the Word is the eternal life that was with the Father,

That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us)

Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,

Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life:

and they are they which testify of me.

That eternal life, which was with the Father,

and was manifested unto us

Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?

For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me,
but on him that sent me.

And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.

And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true,

and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ.

This is the true God, and eternal life.

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Behold, I have given him for a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people.

I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.

And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after

For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;

But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

Rejoice in the Lord alway: and again I say, Rejoice.

Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:

Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:

That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.

For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.

Just verses...

....and I am stopping there for no other reason then for the fact that Im just pretty hungry right now (and for the stuff that perishes) lol

Anyway, may our God and Father richly bless you in Christ our Lord

I had left a gap between a couple verses and edited in what should have been there

Peace unto you in Christ Jesus the Lord, the Son of our great God our Father.

God the Father richly bless you by Christ.

Just posting scripture here keeping to theme of God's love, His commandments, and our love being made perfect. There are others also, these are pretty much our most basics, I will come back to this also, Lord willing.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me:

and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

John 16:27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me,
and have believed that I came out from God.

John 14:22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

John 15:9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.

John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

John 15:11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.

John 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

John 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

John 15:17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.

1 John 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

1 John 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him.

And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee,
that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them;
that they may be one, even as we are one:

And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

John 17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one;
and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

John 17:24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

1 Cr 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

The which we heard from the beginning

1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God;
and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love

1 John 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar:
for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen

2 John 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

Ephes 5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

Ephes 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.

In two things the children of God are manifest and the other as well

1 John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

1 John 3:17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?

Which is loving the other in deed and in truth (not in word and tongue service)

1 John 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

1 John 3:19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.

Which doesnt negate speaking the truth in love.

1 John 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

1 John 4:13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.

1 John 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

As Jesus said, every one that is perfect shall be as His master Luke 6:40, as we are to grow up unto Him Ephesians 4:13 and we are likewise fully funished unto every good work that we might be so by 2 Timothy 3:17

1 John 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. (As we are being perfected in love 1 John 2:5 & 1 John 4:12, 1 John 4:18)

Even passing from death (one place) unto life is in the same evidence (1 John 3:14) which can also be interchanged with the same principal found between abiding in darkness versus the true light now shining and walking in the light as he is in the light (1 John 2:9, 1 John 2:11) I will look for a decent one I have on that one also.

1 John 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

1 John 4:21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

I hope to come back to this a couple more times while bringing in the other verses and expanding on same theme shown throughout in various places.

Just edited out** the color highlights, and returned it to all black also

Peace be unto you in Christ Jesus the Lord and from God the Father