The New Testament Sabbath Day

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There's no need to research anything as John 19:31 tells us:
31 Then the Jews, because it was the day of preparation, so that the bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

The parenthetical statement makes it clear jacobs well! It says that Sabbath was a "high day" do you even have a clue as to what that means?

It's you who must "do the research" because it does NOT mean there were two Sabbaths in the last week of Jesus life, as you push for. There was only one Sabbath because Jesus has died before the 2nd Sabbath. We know Jesus has died because Joseph of Arimathea get's the body of Jesus and puts it in the tomb with the women, and they rest on the Sabbath day. Knowing clearly that Jesus is dead and they observe the Sabbath after they put Him in the tomb, How are there two Sabbaths in the last week of Jesus life? There's only ONE. Luke 23:50-56, as I showed in my last post, makes it very clear Jesus is dead before the "high Sabbath". Where's the riddle?

Now...work through why it is a "high Sabbath". You *may* know why it's a high Sabbath...but there's no riddle, because Jesus is already in the grave when the Sabbath starts! There's no clue...the last week of Jesus life included one Sabbath day...He has died and is in the tomb when the "high Sabbath" starts!!!


In Matt 27:62-66- we read of the day after the preparation which most assume was the preparation for the weekly Sabbath. It was not the preparation day for the weekly Sabbath but it was the preparation day prior to the ANNUAL Sabbath of the first day of unleavened bread an high day Sabbath. Your Bible says so.
The first day of unleavened bread (a High Sabbath) always follows the Passover. The Passover in the year of Jesus death was on a Wednesday and the 1st day of ULB fell on the Thursday. there is your first Sabbath.
Jesus died on Passover Wednesday late afternoon and was buried before sunset as was the custom prior to a Sabbath.
Then, and only then, would you have your 3 days and 3 nights fulfilled when Jesus rises very late Saturday afternoon, exactly 72 hours later. By Sunday morning, pre-dawn while it was still dark, Jesus was already gone as His disciples testified.
The word for " Sabbath " in Mathew 28:1 is in the plural.
Of course, there were two Sabbaths that week: The annual High day Sabbath which fell on Thursday, and the regular weekly Sabbath, which fell on the Saturday.
 
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Hello Jacob's Well.

On the subject of the length of time covering from the death of Jesus until the resurrection.

You said the following.
I'm not claiming anything of my own. " The three days and three nights " come
from the words of Jesus.
Hold your horses JW, let's see if what you are claiming is correct.

Verses where Jesus describes the length of time as being after three days, and in His
own words JacobsWell, number only the four verses below.

(Matthew 12:40, Mark 8:31, Mark 9:31, Mark 10:31)

Verses where Jesus describes the length of time as being within three days, or on the
third day, and in His own words of course, number eight verses.

(Matthew 16:21, Matthew 17:23, Matthew 20:19, Luke 9:22, Luke 13:32, Luke 18:33,
Luke 24:7, John 2:19
)

Your claim is looking tenuous JW.

If we count the verses by the apostles or pharisees, where the time duration is after three
days, we only find just one verse.

(Matthew 27:63)

If we count the number of verses by the apostles or pharisees, that indicate on the third
day, or in three days, we count 4 verses.

(Matthew 26:61, Matthew 27:40, John 2:20, 1 Corinthians 15:4)

Your claim is based on very few verses JW, the majority of the verses are definitely
indicating a third day resurrection.

So did Jesus lie? Definitely not JW, the authors of Matthew and Mark got it wrong, by the
looks of it.
 
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In Matt 27:62-66- we read of the day after the preparation which most assume was the preparation for the weekly Sabbath. It was not the preparation day for the weekly Sabbath but it was the preparation day prior to the ANNUAL Sabbath of the first day of unleavened bread an high day Sabbath. Your Bible says so.
The first day of unleavened bread (a High Sabbath) always follows the Passover. The Passover in the year of Jesus death was on a Wednesday and the 1st day of ULB fell on the Thursday. there is your first Sabbath.
Jesus died on Passover Wednesday late afternoon and was buried before sunset as was the custom prior to a Sabbath.
Then, and only then, would you have your 3 days and 3 nights fulfilled when Jesus rises very late Saturday afternoon, exactly 72 hours later. By Sunday morning, pre-dawn while it was still dark, Jesus was already gone as His disciples testified.
The word for " Sabbath " in Mathew 28:1 is in the plural.
Of course, there were two Sabbaths that week: The annual High day Sabbath which fell on Thursday, and the regular weekly Sabbath, which fell on the Saturday.
You have a problem...which is called "wrong assumption"...but there's no use trying to get you to see where you're wrong...when you want to be right.

You need the totality of the gospels to realize the Sabbath "high day"...and you don't have that. You're also VERY WRONG saying Matthew 28:1 pluralizes "sabbaton". It is not plural...and I really hope you made a mistake in this matter, otherwise, your intentionally trying to make scripture agree with you, which amounts to falsifying scripture for your purpose.

What totally destroys your thinking is in the totality of the gospels it's understood this day was the seventh day.

You're wrestling with scripture...but scripture "pins your view to the mat"!
 
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Hello Jacob's Well.

On the subject of the length of time covering from the death of Jesus until the resurrection.

You said the following.

Hold your horses JW, let's see if what you are claiming is correct.

Verses where Jesus describes the length of time as being after three days, and in His
own words JacobsWell, number only the four verses below.

(Matthew 12:40, Mark 8:31, Mark 9:31, Mark 10:31)

Verses where Jesus describes the length of time as being within three days, or on the
third day, and in His own words of course, number eight verses.

(Matthew 16:21, Matthew 17:23, Matthew 20:19, Luke 9:22, Luke 13:32, Luke 18:33,
Luke 24:7, John 2:19
)

Your claim is looking tenuous JW.

If we count the verses by the apostles or pharisees, where the time duration is after three
days, we only find just one verse.

(Matthew 27:63)

If we count the number of verses by the apostles or pharisees, that indicate on the third
day, or in three days, we count 4 verses.

(Matthew 26:61, Matthew 27:40, John 2:20, 1 Corinthians 15:4)

Your claim is based on very few verses JW, the majority of the verses are definitely
indicating a third day resurrection.

So did Jesus lie? Definitely not JW, the authors of Matthew and Mark got it wrong, by the
looks of it.
 
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Klutedavid:
Matthew and Mark are the inspired writers of the word of God. No room for error-certainly not on the one sign that proves Jesus was the Messiah.
To make sure what was to be understood Jesus referred back to Jonah's three days and three night ordeal and Matthew recorded it all- Matt 28:38-40
On the third day, 3 days and three nights, or in three days are the same time frame when we understand a day in Jesus time was 24 hours.

What is your timeline for the crucifixion and death of Christ to His resurrection?

Nobody questioned Jonah's 3 days and 3 nights tribulation in the whale, why would we question Jesus's absolute proof that He was the Son of God by mentioning the precise time comparison in reference to Jonah and the identical time He would be in the tomb?
it was critical for Jesus to prove to the skeptics that He was who He claimed to be.
Any other time span would have shown the Pharisees for one that He was a fraud and not the Messiah.
 
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You have a problem...which is called "wrong assumption"...but there's no use trying to get you to see where you're wrong...when you want to be right.

You need the totality of the gospels to realize the Sabbath "high day"...and you don't have that. You're also VERY WRONG saying Matthew 28:1 pluralizes "sabbaton". It is not plural...and I really hope you made a mistake in this matter, otherwise, your intentionally trying to make scripture agree with you, which amounts to falsifying scripture for your purpose.

What totally destroys your thinking is in the totality of the gospels it's understood this day was the seventh day.

You're wrestling with scripture...but scripture "pins your view to the mat"!

Besides 2 Sabbaths on that Holy week-the Thursday which was an High Sabbath and the regular Saturday Sabbath, the Fenton translation of the English from the Greek takes note of the fact that the word for " Sabbath " in Matthew 28:1 is in the plural. In a footnote to this text in his translation, he says
" The Greek original is in the plural; Sabbaths.
If we look at Matthew 27:62-63 we see this day after the preparation day is Thursday, the 1 st day of ULB, an High Sabbath as the chief priests are just now asking for security at the tomb for the next 3 days. So we know they wouldn't be asking for 3 days on the Saturday.
Because of time shortage I'm jumping to Friday, the High Sabbath had past -Mark 16:1 was a Friday and the women were buying and mixing spices and rested the 7th day according to the commandment-Luke 23:56
On Sunday the women brought the prepared spices from making it on Friday, and while it was still dark found the tomb empty-Matt 28:1-6, Mark 16:2-6, Luke 24;2-3, John 20:1

What time line do you follow that corresponds to Jesus's prophecy about His resurrection?

History shows the first day of Unleavened Bread -the annual High Day Sabbath-fell on Thursday of that Passover week in the year 31 AD according to the Roman calendar.
There were 2 Sabbaths that week
 
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Besides 2 Sabbaths on that Holy week-the Thursday which was an High Sabbath and the regular Saturday Sabbath, the Fenton translation of the English from the Greek takes note of the fact that the word for " Sabbath " in Matthew 28:1 is in the plural. In a footnote to this text in his translation, he says
" The Greek original is in the plural; Sabbaths.
He's wrong though. He surmises that. You want to argue based on one translation? Do your homework and realize it's wrong.

Here's the point..the argument is not about how many Sabbath days. The argument was in Jesus last week there was only one Sabbath before He died. The regular 7th day Sabbath occurs while Jesus is in the grave, and therefore is not in view.
If we look at Matthew 27:62-63 we see this day after the preparation day is Thursday, the 1 st day of ULB, an High Sabbath as the chief priests are just now asking for security at the tomb for the next 3 days. So we know they wouldn't be asking for 3 days on the Saturday.

Because of time shortage I'm jumping to Friday, the High Sabbath had past -Mark 16:1 was a Friday and the women were buying and mixing spices and rested the 7th day according to the commandment-Luke 23:56
On Sunday the women brought the prepared spices from making it on Friday, and while it was still dark found the tomb empty-Matt 28:1-6, Mark 16:2-6, Luke 24;2-3, John 20:1
You're making a good argument for me though. My contention is that Jesus' body is in the tomb on the 7th day Sabbath.
What time line do you follow that corresponds to Jesus's prophecy about His resurrection?
I believe Jesus died on a Thursday. My contention is that you say "exactly three days and three nights" (as in 72 hours). I know Jesus was in the grave three days and three nights. So the question is what do you mean by "exactly"
History shows the first day of Unleavened Bread -the annual High Day Sabbath-fell on Thursday of that Passover week in the year 31 AD according to the Roman calendar.
There were 2 Sabbaths that week
None of this can be argued based on history because the range of Jesus death is 27-33 AD and no one can nail it down because historically we cannot be sure. I believe Jesus died around 30 AD but I'll be the first to say I can't be sure.

When it comes to the 3 days and three nights, I think Blue Letter Bible nails it pretty good here:
https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/crux.cfm
 
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Klutedavid:
Matthew and Mark are the inspired writers of the word of God. No room for error-certainly not on the one sign that proves Jesus was the Messiah.
To make sure what was to be understood Jesus referred back to Jonah's three days and three night ordeal and Matthew recorded it all- Matt 28:38-40
On the third day, 3 days and three nights, or in three days are the same time frame when we understand a day in Jesus time was 24 hours.

What is your timeline for the crucifixion and death of Christ to His resurrection?

Nobody questioned Jonah's 3 days and 3 nights tribulation in the whale, why would we question Jesus's absolute proof that He was the Son of God by mentioning the precise time comparison in reference to Jonah and the identical time He would be in the tomb?
it was critical for Jesus to prove to the skeptics that He was who He claimed to be.
Any other time span would have shown the Pharisees for one that He was a fraud and not the Messiah.
Hello JacobsWell.

If you run with the full three day and three night scenario, then you end up with a
fourth day resurrection. You must have Jesus rising on the third day to conform to
the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

We know from the frequent testimony in the scripture, that Jesus rose on the third day!

Tell me JW, did Jesus rise on the third day, or the fourth day?

Just a simple answer will do.

By the way JW, I believe Jesus rose on the third day.
 
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Let's keep in mind when Jesus said "three days and three nights" that wasn't the order. We know a day for the Jews consisted of evening and morning.

Jesus rose on the third day. It was a night, a day, a night, a day, a night and a day...in which Jesus rises on that 3rd day.

Matthew 27:57 tells us it was evening when Jesus was buried:
57 When it was evening, there came a rich man from Arimathea, named Joseph, who himself had also become a disciple of Jesus.
58 This man went to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. Then Pilate ordered it to be given to him.
59 And Joseph took the body and wrapped it in a clean linen cloth,
60 and laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock; and he rolled a large stone against the entrance of the tomb and went away.
61 And Mary Magdalene was there, and the other Mary, sitting opposite the grave.


They then observe the 7th day Sabbath. As Matthew 28:1 states:
Now after the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave.
 
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Hello ebedmelech.

You may need to clarify the following statements.
Let's keep in mind when Jesus said "three days and three nights" that wasn't the order.
We know a day for the Jews consisted of evening and morning.
I thought the definition of a Jewish day, would be from sunset to sunset. From the start of one
evening until the start of the next evening say. You said 'a day for the Jews consisted of evening
and morning'? An evening and a morning is not the definition of a Jewish day.
Jesus rose on the third day. It was a night, a day, a night, a day, a night and a day...
in which Jesus rises on that 3rd day.
Jesus died in the afternoon, that is classed as the first day (the Jewish preparation day).
Jesus was still dead the next day, that is day two, which is the Jewish Sabbath day.
Jesus rises on the day after the Sabbath day, that is the Jewish first day.

It was not a 'night and a day', the first day is the preparation day, this first day ends
at sunset.
 
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Hello ebedmelech.

You may need to clarify the following statements.

I thought the definition of a Jewish day, would be from sunset to sunset. From the start of one
evening until the start of the next evening say. You said 'a day for the Jews consisted of evening
and morning'? An evening and a morning is not the definition of a Jewish day.

Jesus died in the afternoon, that is classed as the first day (the Jewish preparation day).
Jesus was still dead the next day, that is day two, which is the Jewish Sabbath day.
Jesus rises on the day after the Sabbath day, that is the Jewish first day.

It was not a 'night and a day', the first day is the preparation day, this first day ends
at sunset.

99% of Christians believe in the Good Friday and Easter Sunday resurrection.
You are counting parts of a day as a full 12 hour day, as in Friday afternoon. The Bible shows us Jesus was buried just at the end of the day of His crucifixion just before sunset. If that was late Friday afternoon and He rose early Sunday morning , you would still only end up then with 2 parts of a day, 1 full day and only 2 nights. Still does not qualify to fulfill Jesus"s promise of being the Messiah?
However you count the days, there are still only 2 nights in the regular Christian understanding.
 
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Let's keep in mind when Jesus said "three days and three nights" that wasn't the order. We know a day for the Jews consisted of evening and morning.

Jesus rose on the third day. It was a night, a day, a night, a day, a night and a day...in which Jesus rises on that 3rd day.

Matthew 27:57 tells us it was evening when Jesus was buried:
57 When it was evening, there came a rich man from Arimathea, named Joseph, who himself had also become a disciple of Jesus.
58 This man went to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. Then Pilate ordered it to be given to him.
59 And Joseph took the body and wrapped it in a clean linen cloth,
60 and laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock; and he rolled a large stone against the entrance of the tomb and went away.
61 And Mary Magdalene was there, and the other Mary, sitting opposite the grave.


They then observe the 7th day Sabbath. As Matthew 28:1 states:
Now after the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave.
Ebedmelech

You don't really have a third day according to bible time-it was still dark on the first day of the week before the 12 hour daylight began when it was known the tomb was already empty -in order to have 3 days and 3 nights which is 72 hours of Bible time, Jesus would have to risen late Sunday just near sunset. Then you would have 3 days and 3 nights-but that didn't happen.
 
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99% of Christians believe in the Good Friday and Easter Sunday resurrection.
You are counting parts of a day as a full 12 hour day, as in Friday afternoon. The Bible shows us Jesus was buried just at the end of the day of His crucifixion just before sunset. If that was late Friday afternoon and He rose early Sunday morning , you would still only end up then with 2 parts of a day, 1 full day and only 2 nights. Still does not qualify to fulfill Jesus"s promise of being the Messiah?
However you count the days, there are still only 2 nights in the regular Christian understanding.
Hello JacobsWell.

Thanks for the reply.

There is no visible solution in the scripture to this problem.

A full, three day three night duration, directly implies a fourth day resurrection,
absolute heresy. Your definitely a heretic on this point.

Any variation of days and nights less than a full three day and three night duration,
is also a contradiction of what Jesus said, according to Matthew's Gospel. This
identifies me as a heretic according to the Jonah account in Matthew.

If you check the identical account in Luke's Gospel what do we find?

Luke drops the three day and three night aspect that Matthew includes. Luke
avoids the inherent problem by either ommitting it, or perhaps Jesus did not
originally include it, and Matthew was incorrect. There is no way of knowing.

Our problem is JW, Jesus did rise on the third day and not on the fourth day.
So we know Jesus was not dead for the full three day night duration.

There is no safe position, because the Gospels contradict themselves and each
other.
 
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Hello JacobsWell.

Thanks for the reply.

There is no visible solution in the scripture to this problem.

A full, three day three night duration, directly implies a fourth day resurrection,
absolute heresy. Your definitely a heretic on this point.

Any variation of days and nights less than a full three day and three night duration,
is also a contradiction of what Jesus said, according to Matthew's Gospel. This
identifies me as a heretic according to the Jonah account in Matthew.

If you check the identical account in Luke's Gospel what do we find?

Luke drops the three day and three night aspect that Matthew includes. Luke
avoids the inherent problem by either ommitting it, or perhaps Jesus did not
originally include it, and Matthew was incorrect. There is no way of knowing.

Our problem is JW, Jesus did rise on the third day and not on the fourth day.
So we know Jesus was not dead for the full three day night duration.

There is no safe position, because the Gospels contradict themselves and each
other.

We don't want to be considered heretics for sure. And I believe in a late Wed burial with a late Sat resurrection
which works out to 3 days and 3 nights- like wed 6pm to sat 6pm - 72 hours.
That is based on that Thursday is a high Sabbath and Jesus had already risen before Sunday sunrise.
This estimated time conforms to Jesus prophecy. Remember there were no witnesses to the exact time He was resurrection, so we only have His promise of a specific sign.
 
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Ebedmelech

You don't really have a third day according to bible time-it was still dark on the first day of the week before the 12 hour daylight began when it was known the tomb was already empty -in order to have 3 days and 3 nights which is 72 hours of Bible time, Jesus would have to risen late Sunday just near sunset. Then you would have 3 days and 3 nights-but that didn't happen.
It's not a day based on your thinking. Can you find anywhere the scripture says 72 hours? The book of Jonah doesn't say that either. Jesus rose on THE THIRD DAY.

Now...let me show you something about allowing scripture to interpret itself:

You take what Jesus said in Matthew 12:40:
40 for just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

To know what Jesus means and how to interpret it you look at everything scripture says on the matter and then you have conclusion. Let's look at some:
Matthew 16:21
From that time Jesus began to show His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised up on the third day.

Matthew 17:22-23
22 And while they were gathering together in Galilee, Jesus said to them, “The Son of Man is going to be delivered into the hands of men;
23 and they will kill Him, and He will be raised on the third day.” And they were deeply grieved.


Matthew 20:18-19
18 “Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem; and the Son of Man will be delivered to the chief priests and scribes, and they will condemn Him to death,
19 and will hand Him over to the Gentiles to mock and scourge and crucify Him, and on the third day He will be raised up.”


That's just Matthew Jacob's well...but I hope you get the point. You are holding scripture to your own view that scripture doesn't hold to.

However, as has been pointed out to you (to no avail), 1 Corinthians 15:3-4
3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,


Let scripture tell it and you get the picture of how to understand it!
 
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We don't want to be considered heretics for sure. And I believe in a late Wed burial with a late Sat resurrection
which works out to 3 days and 3 nights- like wed 6pm to sat 6pm - 72 hours.
That is based on that Thursday is a high Sabbath and Jesus had already risen before Sunday sunrise.
This estimated time conforms to Jesus prophecy. Remember there were no witnesses to the exact time He was resurrection, so we only have His promise of a specific sign.
Hello Jacob's well.

I agree, no one wants to be a heretic, but you have not explained how the
fourth day resurrection, fits the scripture?
 
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It's not a day based on your thinking. Can you find anywhere the scripture says 72 hours? The book of Jonah doesn't say that either. Jesus rose on THE THIRD DAY.

Now...let me show you something about allowing scripture to interpret itself:

You take what Jesus said in Matthew 12:40:
40 for just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

To know what Jesus means and how to interpret it you look at everything scripture says on the matter and then you have conclusion. Let's look at some:
Matthew 16:21
From that time Jesus began to show His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised up on the third day.

Matthew 17:22-23
22 And while they were gathering together in Galilee, Jesus said to them, “The Son of Man is going to be delivered into the hands of men;
23 and they will kill Him, and He will be raised on the third day.” And they were deeply grieved.


Matthew 20:18-19
18 “Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem; and the Son of Man will be delivered to the chief priests and scribes, and they will condemn Him to death,
19 and will hand Him over to the Gentiles to mock and scourge and crucify Him, and on the third day He will be raised up.”


That's just Matthew Jacob's well...but I hope you get the point. You are holding scripture to your own view that scripture doesn't hold to.

However, as has been pointed out to you (to no avail), 1 Corinthians 15:3-4
3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,


Let scripture tell it and you get the picture of how to understand it!

Jesus is the one that tells us that he would be in the tomb for " Three days and three nights "
Jesus is the one that tells us there are 12 hours in a day and an equal time of darkness-John 11:9,10
So we have 24 hrs in a complete day. Since He said He would be in the ground for 3 complete days I'm just calculating the total time in hours. 3 days and 3 nights add up to 72 hours-there is no hour summary in the Bible but it still adds up whether you convert it to hours, minutes or seconds.
The expression " on the third day " meant when the full period of three days and three nights had been completed in the Bible- Esther 4:16-17; 5:1

There is not much more I can add to this issue and will be going back to cover why we should be observing the 7th day Sabbath
 
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Hello Jacob's well.

I agree, no one wants to be a heretic, but you have not explained how the
fourth day resurrection, fits the scripture?

You are the only one with the fourth day resurrection notion.
So a day begins in the Bible at sunset and ends at the following sunset.
I believe Jesus was buried just at sunset Wednesday and rose up at the same time just at
sunset on the Saturday. Jesus was already risen by the time the 4th day period (the 1st day of the week, Sunday) began.
 
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You are the only one with the fourth day resurrection notion.
So a day begins in the Bible at sunset and ends at the following sunset.
I believe Jesus was buried just at sunset Wednesday and rose up at the same time just at
sunset on the Saturday. Jesus was already risen by the time the 4th day period (the 1st day of the week, Sunday) began.
Hello Jacob's well.

You stated,
I believe Jesus was buried just at sunset Wednesday
I do not believe what you just wrote JW.

Jacob's well, I need you to pay attention now and read very carefully.

The starting time is not the time when Jesus was buried, it is the time when Jesus died!

Do you understand this point, it is not the burial time, it is the time of the death of Jesus
that we use to start to add the days.

How can I make this point clearer to you JW?

Matthew, Mark, and Luke each record that Jesus died about "the ninth hour".
(Matthew 27:45-50, Mark 15:34-37, Luke 23:44-46).

Jesus died around 3-00 pm in the afternoon. Then Joseph has time to ask Pilate for
the body of Jesus, so that he can prepare the body and bury it, this will take hours.
Joseph has to do all this before sunset, which means Jesus died hours before sunset.

I will not post any more information until you reply.
 
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Jesus is the one that tells us that he would be in the tomb for " Three days and three nights "
Jesus is the one that tells us there are 12 hours in a day and an equal time of darkness-John 11:9,10
So we have 24 hrs in a complete day. Since He said He would be in the ground for 3 complete days I'm just calculating the total time in hours. 3 days and 3 nights add up to 72 hours-there is no hour summary in the Bible but it still adds up whether you convert it to hours, minutes or seconds.
The expression " on the third day " meant when the full period of three days and three nights had been completed in the Bible- Esther 4:16-17; 5:1
Please show Jesus saying those things. You're simply blinded to your own view despite the totality of scripture. Also note in those passages I quoted from Matthew, Jesus is speaking and saying He will rise on the 3rd day. So are you going to pick and choose what Jesus said on the matter?...OR are you going to look at everything He said of when He would rise
There is not much more I can add to this issue and will be going back to cover why we should be observing the 7th day Sabbath
There's not much more you can add to that either. Jesus is the Sabbath rest...you just don't realize it.
 
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