CO2 Emissions Dramatically Up - Global Warming Stopped

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Actually, you could double your estimate. The first coal fired steam engine used industrially was designed by Thomas Savery in 1698. It was used to pump water from coal mines that had been penetrating much greater depths. The coal had been burned in Europe for generations as the primary heating fuel. (They first burnt their forests).

There was a tacit caveat of "in large enough volumes to significantly change atmospheric CO2 levels". ;)
 
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There was a tacit caveat of "in large enough volumes to significantly change atmospheric CO2 levels". ;)

I understood that. None the less, We have been burning copious amounts of coal for a long, long while. It has been centuries of CO2 loading, and centuries of accelerating discharges.
 
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I understood that. None the less, We have been burning copious amounts of coal for a long, long while. It has been centuries of CO2 loading, and centuries of accelerating discharges.
It appears you dream Earth history but ignore Earth science.

The warming Earth has experienced since the LIA has been from natural climate controlling factors. Pretty plain to see.

The CO2-Centric scientists have inaccurate science that is being exposed, realtime.

Pre-industrial CO2 concentration was ~280 ppm. If natural climate factors are ignored then at the most the change from 280 ppm CO2 to 400 ppm CO2 has warmed the Earth ~0.8°C.

However at the highest point of said all CO2 warming of Earth, as CO2 was at 365 ppm and racing in an 18 year period to ~400 ppm, the Earth stopped warming.

In science that is called the hypothesis is disproved by real world observations.

In science the hypothesis gets tossed or taken back to academia to determine why it was wrong.

In a crazed CO2-centric science crowd the observations get tossed or twisted to fit the hypothesis.

The latest publication of siting station data by Watts at al in Dec 2015 shows over 410 printine data collection stations measurements since 1979. The data shows that "homogenized" databases, including the more recent Best record, present over estimated temperatures by at least 33% The reasons for the error are obvious to scientists who generate scientific information.

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It is a time to examine information objectively, and scrutinize it morally and scientifically.

Corruption in today's science is prolific.

May I present the below as further evidence. ☺

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Pre-industrial CO2 concentration was ~280 ppm. If natural climate factors are ignored then at the most the change from 280 ppm CO2 to 400 ppm CO2 has warmed the Earth ~0.8°C.

However at the highest point of said all CO2 warming of Earth, as CO2 was at 365 ppm and racing in an 18 year period to ~400 ppm, the Earth stopped warming.

It's quite telling when you have to cherry pick your data:

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Not much happened to Earth's temperature as atmospheric CO2 concentration went fro 365 to 400 ppm.

Science is based on observations. And predictions that come true.

It appears the 95% of 15 micron wavelength IR absorption by 280 ppm CO2 has already warmed Earth's atmosphere by CO2's logarithmic absorption property.

Natural factors account for the past 18 years if no Earth warming as CO2 concentration increased 25%.

Yes, tactically focus discussion on Heissonear to avoid the problem the thread points out.
 
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Not much happened to Earth's temperature as atmospheric CO2 concentration went fro 365 to 400 ppm.

Science is based on observations. And predictions that come true.

It appears the 95% of 15 micron wavelength IR absorption by 280 ppm CO2 has already warmed Earth's atmosphere by CO2's logarithmic absorption property.

Natural factors account for the past 18 years if no Earth warming as CO2 concentration increased 25%.

Yes, tactically focus discussion on Heissonear to avoid the problem the thread points out.
nothing happened? We set 3 new records since then!
And it's about to be 4 new records.
 
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Seriously! There are still people here peddling the mythical pause during a record breaking year for global average temperature (combined sea and land) of nearly a degree above baseline. I mean for goodness sake it's midwinter and New York is up to 12C in the day. In the UK we've barely had a winter and are already seeing Spring blossom while also seeing ridiculous amounts of rain and flooding. Australia have been experiencing record breaking heat waves as well. Even the Arctic is experiencing temperatures above freezing in the middle of winter.

http://arcticjournal.com/climate/2057/load-hot-air
 
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A Natural Event (2015-2016 El Nino) has brought clear obvious change but CO2 emissions from ~365 ppm to ~400 ppm have brought zero Global Warming.

Science is observation based.

The feedbacks REQUIRED for CO2 induced Global Warming are not happening.
 
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Some cannot extract out the natural climate controlling factors. They then clsim CO2 done it.

Meanwhile one recent natural event, the 2015/2016 El Nino, shows more effect on Earths temperature than the 18 year period when CO2 increased from 365 ppm to 400 ppm.

Observations show 400 ppm CO2 is meaningless compared to one El Nino.
 
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Some cannot extract out the natural climate controlling factors. They then clsim CO2 done it.

As you have been shown numerous times, it has been subtracted out.

Meanwhile one recent natural event, the 2015/2016 El Nino, shows more effect on Earths temperature than the 18 year period when CO2 increased from 365 ppm to 400 ppm.

If you understood statistics you wouldn't be making these foolish statements. El Nino is weather. We are discussing climate.
 
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So there is the possibility that solar cooling is countering greenhouse gas warming.
So there is a possibility that we could reverse the carbon problem, stop all carbon
emissions, rebury carbon even, and still end up with global warming...and no
plans to do anything about it.

Or we could prepare for change.

There is a way to artificially cool the planet cheaply. That is all I care about since I live in the tropics - to reduce the # of deaths caused by heatwaves and other hot climate related difficulties.
 
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There is a way to artificially cool the planet cheaply. That is all I care about since I live in the tropics - to reduce the # of deaths caused by heatwaves and other hot climate related difficulties.

You can't stop people from dying due to weather.

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“In summer under certain conditions the scientists reckon with a complete melting of the Arctic sea ice. For Europe we expect an increase in drier and warmer summers. Winters on the other hand will be warmer and wetter.”
Erich Roeckner, Max Planck Institute, Hamburg, 29 Sept 2005.


“The more than ‘unusually ‘warm January weather is yet ‘another extreme event’, ‘a harbinger of the winters that are ahead of us’. … The global temperature will ‘increase every year by 0.2°C’”
Michael Müller, Socialist, State Secretary in the Federal Ministry of Environment,
Die Zeit, 15 Jan 2007

“Winters with strong frost and lots of snow like we had 20 years ago will cease to exist at our latitudes.”
Mojib Latif, Max Planck Institute for Meteorology, Hamburg, 1 April 2000
 
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I understood that. None the less, We have been burning copious amounts of coal for a long, long while. It has been centuries of CO2 loading, and centuries of accelerating discharges.

This is how humans live. It's quite natural.
I've seen beavers fell trees and block streams.
 
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