This is making no sense, I've deleted the end quotes 5x now and it's still stuck in there.
I think you need to read Rev. 19 again and pay close attention to chronology. All through the book, events happen at the time of mention, unless it is prophecy fulfilled later in the book.
Therefore when John says it is time for the marriage, that means RIGHT THEN - not later after another event.
AS proof of this, when John mentions it is time for the marriage supper, that means the marriage is OVER WITH. It is not until AFTER this that Jesus descends. A beginning reader would never come up with your theory when reading this.
I know a marriage in heaven does not fit posttrib theory, so I see lots of gymnastics to explain it away.
Nowhere in scripture is the pre-trib rapture supported in scripture.
This is simply not true. But I could reverse it and say nowhere in scripture is a posttrib rapture supported.
The truth is, Paul was the ONLY writer in the New Testament to receive the revelation of any kind of catching up of the living. Most back in those days did believe in the resurrection of the dead. Since Paul ties both together into one bible passage, let's leave them together and call it "the rapture."
When Jesus was answering the questions of the end, on the Mount of Olives, the Gentile church of which this rapture is about was a MYSTERY hidden in God. God had to wait and see if Israel would receive Jesus as their Messiah as a nation first. (of course He knew the outcome, but it seems He waits to see). Finally, after a few years of the preaching of the disciples and the nation had rejected Him, God turned to the Gentiles and the Gentile church began. The Jewish church disappeared after AD 70.
With this in mind, why would ANYONE think they would find information in the Olivet Discourse about a church that was still a mystery at the time. indeed, when Jesus told that about the end, it was about THEIR end, not about our end. Yes, there will be TWO ends, as the Gentile church will be caught up and then time will revert to the 70th week of Daniel. Therefore any "gathering" found in this discourse is not about the church of today. It is a different gathering.
If you erase the Mat. 24 gathering, what scripture is left for posttrib? Perhaps only 2 Thes 2. Posttrib thinks it is iron-clad proof, but it is not. It is the church departing (taken out of the way) that allows the man of sin to be revealed.
The truth is, neither Matthew 24 or 2 Thes. 2 are about a posttrib rapture.
1 Thes. 4 & 5 ARE about a pretrib rapture. Paul tells us that his rapture will come as the trigger for the start of the DAY and of His wrath. Where does that fit in Revelation's time-line? Just before the earthquake (Paul's sudden destruction) at the 6th seal.
The truth then is that a pretrib rapture IS supported by scripture, but a posttrib is not.
The clincher is that the marriage and supper will take place IN HEAVEN exactly as John wrote it.
I hate debating....especially with close-minded individuals.
For sure if someone is believing a lie, they should not be close-minded. On the other hand, if someone has the truth, they should not waver. The sad part, it seems those that believe a lie are FAR MORE close-minded.
Again, Revelation 19 is from the heavenly perspective when Christ is about to make war with the nations and the Bride is ready for Christ's return.
Read it again: the bride is ALREADY THERE.
If Christ did return 7yrs prior to pull up His Church and has been intimate with the Church, according to this scripture He was fornicating with them because the marriage hasn't been completing.
Wow! You would accuse God of fornicating?