Law of attraction

de1929 · Jan 7, 2016

For those who has sales background, business development background, surely you familiar with law-of-attraction.

Take a look at mark 11:24 below, from many bible translation, and notice how it has the law-of-attraction behind the wordings.
http://biblehub.com/mark/11-24.htm

I can give you confidence that Law of Attraction is biblical.

Come n ask questions here

ViaCrucis · Jan 7, 2016

Nope. I don't believe in magick.

-CryptoLutheran

de1929 · Jan 8, 2016

ViaCrucis said:
Nope. I don't believe in magick.

-CryptoLutheran

CHRIST walking on water ?

BeStill&Know · Jan 8, 2016

de1929 said:
For those who has sales background, business development background, surely you familiar with law-of-attraction.

Take a look at mark 11:24 below, from many bible translation, and notice how it has the law-of-attraction behind the wordings.
http://biblehub.com/mark/11-24.htm

I can give you confidence that Law of Attraction is biblical.

Come n ask questions here

Honestly, at this point I don't know to what extent I believe this. In this light, did the early torture of followers and Christ Himself think negative thoughts and that's why these negative things happen to them :scratch:

On the other hand, recently the Lord instructed me to re-word, many of my morning devotionals. ex. Who controls my thoughts? Is is the enemy of my Soul? >TO :JESUS controls my thoughts. HIS WORDS DOMINATE my thoughts. and there are many others I turned around, to focus Jesus the positive verses our enemy the negative. :amen:

aiki · Jan 8, 2016

The Law of Attraction is NOT biblical and is, in fact, occultic. You might want to do some reading on Helena Blavatsky and her "magnum opus" The Secret Doctrine, the Synthesis of Science, Religion and Philosophy. It borrows heavily from Hindu mysticism and is the main source of the modern Law of Attraction idea. Steer clear!

As far as the Bible is concerned, you ought to take it in its entirety in the matter of believing prayer. Here are some other qualifying verses for you to consider:

John 14:12-14 (NKJV)
12 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.
13 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If you ask anything in My name, I will do it.

1 John 5:14-15 (NKJV)
14 Now this is the confidence that we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us.
15 And if we know that He hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we have asked of Him.

James 4:3 (NKJV)
3 You ask and do not receive, because you ask amiss, that you may spend it on your pleasures.

Selah.

ViaCrucis · Jan 8, 2016

de1929 said:
CHRIST walking on water ?

Is not magick.

-CryptoLutheran

de1929 · Jan 8, 2016

aiki said:
...
It borrows heavily from Hindu mysticism and is the main source of the modern Law of Attraction idea. Steer clear!
...

if you look at the history, hindu start far..far. later than chistianity. imo, the later borrows heavily from the earlier. Hindu borrows heavily from christian. and surely, do you know our lord JESUS is such a popular figure for hinduism.
http://www.samarthbharat.com/jesushindu.htm

aiki · Jan 8, 2016

Sir, you don't know what you're talking about. The beginning of Hinduism predates Christianity by some 2000 years! And Hinduism is anathema to Christianity, however positively Hindus may look upon Jesus. None of this, however, alters the fact that the "Law of Attraction" stuff got its start in Western thinking in no small part through Madam Blavatsky who was intimately involved with the occult. The "Law of Attraction" is, in my opinion, quite demonic and should be rejected outright by every disciple of Christ.

Selah.

de1929 · Jan 9, 2016

aiki said:
Sir, you don't know what you're talking about. The beginning of Hinduism predates Christianity by some 2000 years! And Hinduism is anathema to Christianity, however positively Hindus may look upon Jesus. None of this, however, alters the fact that the "Law of Attraction" stuff got its start in Western thinking in no small part through Madam Blavatsky who was intimately involved with the occult. The "Law of Attraction" is, in my opinion, quite demonic and should be rejected outright by every disciple of Christ.

Selah.

When i said christianity, I mean to include judaism as well, during moses time. sorry miscommunications.

having sex is quite demonic as well. many people having sex for pagan rituals. But why we have sex with our legal spouse ? isn't that bible say if possible stay as single according to 1 Cor 7:32-35 ?

if you say law of attraction is demonic, how about having sex ?

aiki · Jan 9, 2016

de1929 said:
having sex is quite demonic as well. many people having sex for pagan rituals. But why we have sex with our legal spouse ? isn't that bible say if possible stay as single according to 1 Cor 7:32-35 ?

Having sex is not demonic. Having sex outside of marriage and in association with occult practices is demonic. God made sex; there is, therefore, nothing demonic about it. But sex can be warped and twisted into something very different from what God intended it to be. And when it is, it becomes an evil thing.

God did not make the Law of Attraction. It is a false teaching, a doctrine of demons, and ought to be rejected completely.

Selah.

de1929 · Jan 9, 2016

aiki said:
Having sex is not demonic. Having sex outside of marriage and in association with occult practices is demonic. God made sex; there is, therefore, nothing demonic about it. But sex can be warped and twisted into something very different from what God intended it to be. And when it is, it becomes an evil thing.

God did not make the Law of Attraction. It is a false teaching, a doctrine of demons, and ought to be rejected completely.

Selah.

Using Law of attraction to attract GOD's will is not demonic either.

ViaCrucis · Jan 9, 2016

de1929 said:
Using Law of attraction to attract GOD's will is not demonic either.

Whether or not it is demonic is perhaps neither here nor there; but what is relevant is that it's still magick.

19th century spiritualists and occultists believed in the law of attraction--but it has never been part of the Christian tradition. Christianity does not practice magick.

If you are interested in a religion where you can practice magick, try New Thought, Theosophy, or Thelema. Christianity isn't the correct religion for that sort of thing.

-CryptoLutheran

de1929 · Jan 9, 2016

ViaCrucis said:
Whether or not it is demonic is perhaps neither here nor there; but what is relevant is that it's still magick.

19th century spiritualists and occultists believed in the law of attraction--but it has never been part of the Christian tradition. Christianity does not practice magick.

If you are interested in a religion where you can practice magick, try New Thought, Theosophy, or Thelema. Christianity isn't the correct religion for that sort of thing.

-CryptoLutheran

do you believe in sola scriptura ?

Hospes · Jan 10, 2016

Like all strong lies, there is a bit of truth in the Law of Attraction. The bottom line for me: it is inconceivable for me to think that I, a created being, have the power to manipulate my Creator. It's as wildly ridiculous as a puppet pulling the strings of the puppeteer. I treasure the fact God is such a person as to deserve and command my absolute worship and esteem; to think that I can control him is lunacy akin to me thinking because I wake with the sunrise I must be the one that causes the rotation of the earth.

ViaCrucis · Jan 10, 2016

de1929 said:
do you believe in sola scriptura ?

If by Sola Scriptura you mean Scripture as the final arbiter and definitive rule of faith, then yes.

Why do you ask?

-CryptoLutheran

de1929 · Jan 14, 2016

ViaCrucis said:
If by Sola Scriptura you mean Scripture as the final arbiter and definitive rule of faith, then yes.

Why do you ask?

-CryptoLutheran

Lutheran believes in cessasionism. word-of-Faith (wof) continualism.

Cessasionism strongly hold sola scriptura. continualism don't. wof have RHEMA, revelations, etc, that has some authority as well. the best word to describe is prima scriptura.

from this very different root, you believe no magic. wof fully embrace magic. But wof don't use word magic, we use soft words called: miracles

aiki · Jan 14, 2016

de1929 said:
Using Law of attraction to attract GOD's will is not demonic either.

One does not have to "attract" God's will. One has only to read their Bible and obey the commands of God given to them in it.

Selah.

ViaCrucis · Jan 15, 2016

de1929 said:
from this very different root, you believe no magic. wof fully embrace magic. But wof don't use word magic, we use soft words called: miracles

I'm not talking about miracles, I'm talking about magick. Miracles aren't magick.

The "law of attraction" is magick.
Jesus feeding five thousand with a handful of fish and loaves of bread is a miracle.

-CryptoLutheran

de1929 · Jan 15, 2016

ViaCrucis said:
I'm not talking about miracles, I'm talking about magick. Miracles aren't magick.

The "law of attraction" is magick.
Jesus feeding five thousand with a handful of fish and loaves of bread is a miracle.

-CryptoLutheran

so how do you define miracle and how do you define magic ? what's the difference between miracle and magic ?

de1929 · Jan 15, 2016

aiki said:
One does not have to "attract" God's will. One has only to read their Bible and obey the commands of God given to them in it.

Selah.

that is cessasionist mindset. if you follow John Mc Arthur teachings, definitely you are cessasionist. Baptist mostly cessasionist. Word-of-faith is continualist. Link below has details

http://www.christianforums.com/threads/law-of-attraction.7926753/#post-69122686

cessasionist is good, but may not be compatible for Sales / Marketing people. Sales / Marketing people who infused with law-of-attraction training at office, will find cessasionist thinking condemning them. Condemned people will never be effective.

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