72% of Atheists biased in favor of Muslims over Christians

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You can't add them up like that, think of it like this.
Example: 1,000 people surveyed.

100 of them were atheists, 72 of these atheists consider Christians to be bigger threat
100 of them were Protestants, 29 of them consider Christians to be bigger threat
100 of them were Catholics, and 23 of them consider Christians to be bigger threats.
Ect.
What?

I've eliminated political parties...

"Among those who fear Christians more than Muslims, 72 percent are atheists, 29 percent are Protestants, 23 percent are Catholics."

Example 1500 people surveyed. Of those, 1,000 people consider Christians to be bigger threat.

72% atheists = 720 people of 1,000
29% protestants = 290 people of 1,000
23% catholics = 230 people of 1,000

720
290
230
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1240 people

ETA: Just saw that essentialsaltes already covered this.
 
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Questions are vague so that the person who is asked can interpret more.
...and so that the answers a even more interpretable?
How´s that supposed to be a good idea?

What first pops into your mind when you think of potential threats that arises from religious groups?
How about: "Nothing"?
How about: "I dont accept the premise that threats are necessarily linked to religion?"
For me, I think of terrorism, for some, they might think of potential merges of state and religion, and for some, they might think having to give up money at church.
I like vague questions, because how you choose to answer vague questions shows a lot about who you are.
Except that how and why someone chose to answer doesn´t show up in the results (because it hasn´t even been part of the question.
 
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I was interested to read that around one quarter of Christians saw themselves and their Christian peers as a greater threat than Muslims. I was also interested by the statement that 100% of Muslims surveyed saw Muslims as a bigger threat. But then I realised the survey was nonsense, and disregarded everything I'd read.
 
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Sure. Most people who wear the label "Atheist" openly and proudly are actively hostile towards Christians, so anyone who is suppressing Christians seems justified to them. "My enemy's enemy is my friend," you know. ;)


Are you suggesting that atheists seem justified in supporting theist groups that suppress Christians?
 
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Sure. Most people who wear the label "Atheist" openly and proudly are actively hostile towards Christians, so anyone who is suppressing Christians seems justified to them. "My enemy's enemy is my friend," you know. ;)

"Hostile towards religion" might be a more accurate phrase.
 
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That is mainly because Christianity dominates in the west, as sometimes abuses occur when one religion dominates.
Actually, secularist relativism is what dominates in the West. The recent SCOTUS decision to redefine marriage is proof. And many of the ones who identify as "Christian" are not any different in their beliefs than a non-Christian. There are even some who identify as "Christian" who don't even believe in God. It often seems like the believing Christians are in the minority.
 
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"Hostile towards religion" might be a more accurate phrase.

Yes that seems far more plausible, the notion that a theist group is the atheist's friend because the theist group suppresses Christians is just plain ridiculous.
 
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Fair enough, whats a TrueMuslimsTM.

Those Muslims contained within an area, approximately a circle, defined by a variable radius from a variable fixed point which corresponds to where the Muslim drawing the circle is standing.
(see also TrueChristian, TrueScotsman etc.)

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Actually, secularist relativism is what dominates in the West. The recent SCOTUS decision to redefine marriage is proof.




Christianity didn't even have a role in people's marriages for almost half of its history.

Why should Christianity get away with redefining marriage?

A prime example of how atheists in America feel more threatened by Christians.
 
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Sure. Most people who wear the label "Atheist" openly and proudly are actively hostile towards Christians, so anyone who is suppressing Christians seems justified to them. "My enemy's enemy is my friend," you know. ;)

Rather it's a relative call, remember: "72% of Atheists think Christians are a bigger threat than Muslims."
I may think cyanide is more dangerous than arsenic, but that doesn't push me into a "pro-arsenic" category.

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Sure. Most people who wear the label "Atheist" openly and proudly are actively hostile towards Christians, so anyone who is suppressing Christians seems justified to them. "My enemy's enemy is my friend," you know. ;)

That's a convenient explanation, but not one that I think is true.

I don't see any atheists even implying that Muslims may be good allies against Christians. They want a secular society, not one where Muslims have political power instead.


eudaimonia,

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Let me try to make some sense of these results.

If I'm a gay or transgendered individual living in the USA, who is more likely to hurt me - a Christian or a Muslim? Sure, the Muslim's religious beliefs may be more explicit in their hatred towards me, but there are a lot more Christians. It's not the Muslims who are in congress and statehouses across the country trying to make my life harder and push discriminatory bills. It's not the Muslims demanding that their religious beliefs be taught to my children.

Thunderf00t had a great video on this that I probably shouldn't link here. Functionally, ISIS, Al Qaeda, and the like? All their fanaticism does not add up to a credible threat. If we had their dogged fanaticism, we could wipe the middle east off the map in a matter of days. The very best they can do is the occasional mass murder, and while that is a tragedy, they are few and far between, and have killed fewer people in the last 10 years in the USA than cows have. If we had more muslims, or if their attacks were more frequent and more capable, then I'm sure this poll would skew quite a bit harder, but at the moment, it's really not hard to understand why many people see Christianity as a larger threat.
 
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"Hostile towards religion" might be a more accurate phrase.
I don't think so. It seems logical, and I believe most of them would immediately want to agree with you. However, there's strong evidence that the animosity is weighed in a certain direction.

I don't find that unusual, since it's human nature to be most offended by the dominant religion in the place where one lives, while it's almost academic to be opposed to religions which have few adherents and little influence in one's neighborhood.
 
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Yeah, disagreeing with you is proof of close-mindedness.
No, but talking like this is a strong indicator of it: "That's a convenient explanation, but not one that I think is true...I don't see any atheists even implying...."
 
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