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I have looked at some websites that say there will be marriage in heaven. My argument for that is why do the vows say "till death do us part"? I am 50 years old, a never married virgin, and feel like I may never experience marriage and sex! :argh::argh::argh:

You are probably visiting Mormons LDS sites and reading about their beliefs ... are the ones who believe family for eternity, marriages are forever etc..I have no idea if anyone else belive the same.

THe bible is clear about not having marriage in heaven. Marriage is for earth living.
 
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Clearly Jesus said there is no marriage or given in marriage in heaven, we will be like the angels.
Those are pretty profound statements and yet they don't answer a many questions we might have either. I know of no Bible verses that say what an angel's life is like in heaven. I don't know how God can create us sexual beings call us very good and then be able to strip/extract that sexuality our of the very core of who we are as men and women. Yet some argue very confidently that we will be asexual in the resurrection. But that sounds more like a Gnosticism world view than Jewish world view would be.

I've not been there either so I have no clue what the final answer will be either.
 
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You are probably visiting Mormons LDS sites and reading about their beliefs ... are the ones who believe family for eternity, marriages are forever etc..I have no idea if anyone else belive the same.

THe bible is clear about not having marriage in heaven. Marriage is for earth living.

Where is the Bible clear about that? I've never heard of a verse that says this. If marriage was to be eternal in Eden, and Eden was perfect, isn't Eden Heaven? So wouldn't marriage be there as well? I think you are making quite a bold statement with nothing to back it up.
 
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THe bible is clear about not having marriage in heaven. Marriage is for earth living.

1. Way to ease steflou64's anxiety there. :rolleyes:

2. If ^that's the case, then is steflou64 just an exception to Joel 2:25?
 
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Matthew 22
28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Mark 12
23 In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
Luke 20
32 Last of all the woman died also.
33 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife of them is she? for seven had her to wife.
34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
 
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I know that's the standard reply but it's been addressed many times, here's one of the rebuttals:

http://whatthebiblesays.info/Marriageinheaven.html

-Some other thoughts:

Interpreting Jesus’ answer to the Sadducees in an erroneous way, some have claimed that marriage has no follow-up in heaven. St. Paul said that God created woman for man. (I Cor. 11:9) Before He created woman, He said, "It is not good for the man to be alone" God made woman for man, and man is for woman. I can safely say that humans were designed not to operate as a single solitary person but as part of a unit of two.

I believe that marriage with all its implications, including sexual intercourse, will be present in the life to come. The redemption of our sexuality in all its aspects, including the physical. What is wrong with the physical world all has to do with sin and death. Christ has died to redeem us from these things. When they are redeemed, then we will see the way God intended them to be, including sexuality.

-Another:

I would like to add my $.02 to this conversation if I may.

Nowhere does the bible state that the lawful marriage between a man and a women will cease to be valid in heaven. Some folks use Matt. 22:30 in an attempt to "prove" that there will be no marriages in heaven, but in my opinion, their interpretation of that verse is incorrect. Here's what the verse says: "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven."

Notice the wording: "they neither marry, nor are given in marriage". Sound familiar? It should. Men are married. Women are given in marriage. If Jesus had meant to say there would be no married couples in heaven, he could have easily stated it that way. But he didn't. By using the terms "they neither marry" and "nor are given in marriage", He was not saying that there would be no married couples in heaven, but that there would be no marriages performed in heaven.

So what will be the fate of a couple who were married while on earth? I firmly believe that their marriage will continue in heaven, and the bible seems to back up that belief.

Consider Matt. 19: 5-6 "For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. WHAT THEREFORE GOD HATH JOINED TOGETHER, LET NOT MAN PUT ASUNDER.

The above assurances from the bible bring up one final question: Will we see our loved ones after the resurrection? 1 Thes. 4: 13-14 says that we will: "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, EVEN SO THEM ALSO WHICH SLEEP IN JESUS WILL GOD BRING WITH HIM." What a joyous reunion that will be!

“Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, IN THE LORD." (1 Cor. 11:11) The above scriptural assurances give me great peace. I pray they do the same for you.

And one more for good measure:

I never understood the church's teachings on marriage in Heaven. They give such pat answers that it won't be needed because we will be with Christ and there is no more pro-creation; therefore everything we've lived for, hoped for and dreamed of on this earth will just --- puff -- go away.

What do you say to the person who never got married, or who got married and the marriage didn't last? The point is that, the Bible teaches that in Heaven everyone will be healed, with empirical evidence of their healing. The blind will see, the deaf will hear, the lame will walk, etc. So what does that mean for a man or woman who never got married or had a truly fulfilling marriage? There will be no healing for them? Because there will be no form of sex, or anything analogous to it, or any form of male/female couplings, we will be forever on the outside looking in? Or just "told" by Jesus (hey, your social life is healed now. Gee, thanks Jesus!), like putting a blind man in a pitch black room and telling him he can see now?

I'm sorry, but I don't go along with this. I can't accept that God will take something as precious and meaningful as the relationship between a man and a woman away from his believers in his perfect Eternal Kingdom. God said of Adam, "it is not good that a man be alone", and he created Eve for him. He did this in the perfect world of Eden, before sin entered the world. If it was his original plan for man to be with a woman, why wouldn't that be his Eternal plan?
 
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I have noticed that in a face-to-face conversation or on any message board is that no matter the conversation whether it be predestination and election, eternal security, divorce and remarriage, or any number of topics, that those on either side give verses and go away still believing the same way. It does make for interesting conversation though. I do agree with knowing saved family members in heaven, but I do not agree that people are still husband and wife. As to the last few paragraphs, that person is giving an opinion based on human reasoning. That assumes that people will be wanting sex because it happens here. People will have a glorious body like the Lord's body since scripture says so. What I am curious about is if those verses quoting Jesus do NOT mean what the words say, then what do they mean?

I have had conversations on another board concerning election with those who believe that some are elected to go to heaven, and some are doomed to hell since before birth, and there is nothing that they can do about it. In discussing various verses, these two people in particular would change the actual wording of passages to say something else than what is written. For example, Romans 10:13 that says whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved really means that whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shalt HAVE been saved. That is exactly what that person wrote that the verse really meant. Another example is in Acts 10 when the centurion received a message from God to send for Peter who would (future tense) tell him words so that he could be saved. Acts 11 is continuing the subject, but the other person on that board said that it meant Peter was sent to him to tell him that he was ALREADY saved when it clearly said that it would happen after Peter came to him and told him those words. The person who said that also started a (bad joke) thread telling anyone that he had some money for anyone if they would just believe it (with an evil smiley face) to poke fun at those who believe that salvation is by faith, and not by being zapped with it (with no faith or repentance on their part) and then realizing it after the fact. (I am not saying nor do I believe that anyone in this thread is doing anything similar to that)

Of course there are things in the Bible that are way above my understanding
 
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Oh, no doubt the Bible can be taken many different ways, which is why when I attempt to understand it I try to say what sounds more like a human thing vs a Godly thing, to me marriage seems to be very spiritual, it is very special, the male and female were specifically made for a reason, obviously the spiritual realm and this realm are not the same but I can't accept that they have no connection at all with each other, I think the bonds we make here, not just with a spouse, but with children, brothers, sisters, friends, etc will carry over in some way. To have more of a bond with one soul over another does not imply you won't experience joy with the others who are there, it will just be unique to you and those you know, much the same as it is here, simply because my bond is strongest with my family and friends does not mean I can't go on a vacation and sit with a group of strangers and enjoy their company or appreciate the bond they have with their family.

I think it's good to hear all the different perspectives, in the end I doubt there will ever be any solid answer one way or the other and everyone will embrace what feels right to them, and someday we will all know for sure, I for one tho love the thought that my family life will continue on in some fashion and if I do find a wife I would want to be with her in heaven, it would be horrible to lose her in this earthly realm but I guess I just feel once I am joined with her we are joined forever and what is waiting a few years on this earth put up against eternity?
 
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We are married in heaven, just not to each other. We are married as a church to Christ. It doesn't matter what you "want" heaven to be like...we can't even imagine it wonders. My personal opinion is that marriage, well, a good marriage, is a "taste" of what it will be like to be in heaven.

My husband died and we had an awesome relationship...however, it was not perfect because the relationship between two humans never is. I still feel a connection to him but it feels different. A much bigger love which is hard to explain. I believe it is a foretaste of what is to come some day when I join him in heaven. I do not believe that we will be joined as a couple but I do believe that we will be joined in a much bigger way . (too tired to look up verses at this moment but I can back my thoughts with more than my feelings)
 
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I have looked at some websites that say there will be marriage in heaven. My argument for that is why do the vows say "till death do us part"? I am 50 years old, a never married virgin, and feel like I may never experience marriage and sex! :argh::argh::argh:
I know there's no sex there...there's no need for it. Nor is their marriage...if your married when you die...then u still are...but...beyond that I guess it's anyone's guess really! It will be cool...probably a huge party with all urbloved ones ...happiness
 
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I know that's the standard reply but it's been addressed many times, here's one of the rebuttals:

http://whatthebiblesays.info/Marriageinheaven.html

-Some other thoughts:

Interpreting Jesus’ answer to the Sadducees in an erroneous way, some have claimed that marriage has no follow-up in heaven. St. Paul said that God created woman for man. (I Cor. 11:9) Before He created woman, He said, "It is not good for the man to be alone" God made woman for man, and man is for woman. I can safely say that humans were designed not to operate as a single solitary person but as part of a unit of two.

I believe that marriage with all its implications, including sexual intercourse, will be present in the life to come. The redemption of our sexuality in all its aspects, including the physical. What is wrong with the physical world all has to do with sin and death. Christ has died to redeem us from these things. When they are redeemed, then we will see the way God intended them to be, including sexuality.

-Another:

I would like to add my $.02 to this conversation if I may.

Nowhere does the bible state that the lawful marriage between a man and a women will cease to be valid in heaven. Some folks use Matt. 22:30 in an attempt to "prove" that there will be no marriages in heaven, but in my opinion, their interpretation of that verse is incorrect. Here's what the verse says: "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven."

Notice the wording: "they neither marry, nor are given in marriage". Sound familiar? It should. Men are married. Women are given in marriage. If Jesus had meant to say there would be no married couples in heaven, he could have easily stated it that way. But he didn't. By using the terms "they neither marry" and "nor are given in marriage", He was not saying that there would be no married couples in heaven, but that there would be no marriages performed in heaven.

So what will be the fate of a couple who were married while on earth? I firmly believe that their marriage will continue in heaven, and the bible seems to back up that belief.

Consider Matt. 19: 5-6 "For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. WHAT THEREFORE GOD HATH JOINED TOGETHER, LET NOT MAN PUT ASUNDER.

The above assurances from the bible bring up one final question: Will we see our loved ones after the resurrection? 1 Thes. 4: 13-14 says that we will: "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, EVEN SO THEM ALSO WHICH SLEEP IN JESUS WILL GOD BRING WITH HIM." What a joyous reunion that will be!

“Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, IN THE LORD." (1 Cor. 11:11) The above scriptural assurances give me great peace. I pray they do the same for you.

And one more for good measure:

I never understood the church's teachings on marriage in Heaven. They give such pat answers that it won't be needed because we will be with Christ and there is no more pro-creation; therefore everything we've lived for, hoped for and dreamed of on this earth will just --- puff -- go away.

What do you say to the person who never got married, or who got married and the marriage didn't last? The point is that, the Bible teaches that in Heaven everyone will be healed, with empirical evidence of their healing. The blind will see, the deaf will hear, the lame will walk, etc. So what does that mean for a man or woman who never got married or had a truly fulfilling marriage? There will be no healing for them? Because there will be no form of sex, or anything analogous to it, or any form of male/female couplings, we will be forever on the outside looking in? Or just "told" by Jesus (hey, your social life is healed now. Gee, thanks Jesus!), like putting a blind man in a pitch black room and telling him he can see now?

I'm sorry, but I don't go along with this. I can't accept that God will take something as precious and meaningful as the relationship between a man and a woman away from his believers in his perfect Eternal Kingdom. God said of Adam, "it is not good that a man be alone", and he created Eve for him. He did this in the perfect world of Eden, before sin entered the world. If it was his original plan for man to be with a woman, why wouldn't that be his Eternal plan?
Lol, you don't understand because that is your flesh. When I was a hormone raging teenager...I was upset about that too. However, you realize, that is merely an earthly pleasure...you won't miss it when ya get there. :) as much as u think...how can I not have that n be happy....u can. I guess we probably just forget about that. And everything is more meaningful there neways. Sex is ...I'm not sure why it was created besides procreation and like, I dunno but yeah!
 
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Lol, you don't understand because that is your flesh. When I was a hormone raging teenager...I was upset about that too. However, you realize, that is merely an earthly pleasure...you won't miss it when ya get there. :) as much as u think...how can I not have that n be happy....u can. I guess we probably just forget about that. And everything is more meaningful there neways. Sex is ...I'm not sure why it was created besides procreation and like, I dunno but yeah!

OK, for one, I'm 40yrs old, much as I'd love to be a teenager again, those days are gone.

Second, I was reprinting someone else comment, it was not my own.

Finally, neither I or he were making an argument for marriage in heaven based on any desire for sex, we only said God specifically created sex, even when the world was perfect as in Eden it was there, he created sex and the sexes, they are not a creation of sin (when done properly) so there is no reason to say it can't continue in heaven.
 
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We are married in heaven, just not to each other. We are married as a church to Christ. It doesn't matter what you "want" heaven to be like...we can't even imagine it wonders. My personal opinion is that marriage, well, a good marriage, is a "taste" of what it will be like to be in heaven.

My husband died and we had an awesome relationship...however, it was not perfect because the relationship between two humans never is. I still feel a connection to him but it feels different. A much bigger love which is hard to explain. I believe it is a foretaste of what is to come some day when I join him in heaven. I do not believe that we will be joined as a couple but I do believe that we will be joined in a much bigger way . (too tired to look up verses at this moment but I can back my thoughts with more than my feelings)

First, I am sorry to hear that your husband died, I always hate to hear things like that.

You say it doesn't matter what I "want" heaven to be like, yet then proceed to list several examples of things based on your own opinions? I'm not sure what you're trying to say. I don't believe I ever claimed my wanting something was going to override the eternal creator of all time and space, I'm only saying it is what I've concluded based on my understanding of the Bible and the lives we live here.

As for the issue of a "foretaste", I actually agree with you, the bond we have here with our loved one's will be immensely amplified in heaven, I honestly am trying to understand why so many of you have such an opposition to the notion that relationships we form here can continue on in the next life? It will be different, better, but why do you feel that knowing and having an affinity for your earthly family/friends will somehow "ruin" heaven?
 
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Well I'm not young either, and two me sex for procreation is a minor part of what sex is about. At 64 I find sex more meaningful than ever. As I mentioned before I can't imagine how I could be me and God take my male sexuality out of me. So I feel there will be sex in heaven with our resurrected bodies. But God's plan will happen no matter what I believe.
 
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Well I'm not young either, and two me sex for procreation is a minor part of what sex is about. At 64 I find sex more meaningful than ever. As I mentioned before I can't imagine how I could be me and God take my male sexuality out of me. So I feel there will be sex in heaven with our resurrected bodies. But God's plan will happen no matter what I believe.

Agreed, it is very emotional, it is a bonding, not sure why it would not be welcome in heaven in some fashion.
 
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Well here's my thought...you remember. ..who said it...that it was better to be celibate like him, but bc not many can do it, it is better to marry so you do not burn. The celibate person is focused on G-d not a significant other , and ...so that's why I believe in Heaven, we are not doing that anymore.
 
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