Proverbs 9
Again my apologies for posting early.
A question was asked here. The answer to that question is in Proverbs 9:7-9. And yes I have used this and it works great. And yes after being on the forums here and having only the ignore button, I have forgotten what God says with those types.
I am so pleased with Tishri1, for starting me back to ways of wisdom. Yes, when I knew this well and used this correctly, Proverbs 9:7-9, life was better.
Notice though, for most of you are talked about in Proverbs 9:9, what it says about you. Now, if you will read that, I will tell you this next. I am not allowed to teach, so this does not apply to me, teaching that is. Being taught does apply to me.
I will merely share my experiences, and with Wisdom being female, I have that. She used to be near me for years and years as I was learning the Bible from my teacher. Jesus, assigned a person to me, and I did not know it till after I had learned things like Proverbs 9:1, and Wisdom of chapter 8, being created first of all the items created by God. Since she was created, she did not exist at one time, and that removes many ideas about her, from being possible, such as, always was, and always will be.
Here, in Proverbs 9:5. she says come and eat, then she tells me how to handle mockers, and also how to handle the wicked, and also how to handle the wise. She continues and tells me how to get closer to God.
To me she says, Fear the Lord. But in other areas or with time, Fear losing Him by displeasing Him, maybe like in Him divorcing me for bad actions. Fear of the Lord for me started with fear of being punished, and that I think was all there was. I just didn't want to be hurt by Him, anymore.
Later fear, and it may be what it always was and always is, was my fear of hurting His feelings.
One day, several years ago, I would learn that even God The Father has feelings, just like any normal person. One day, I hurt those feelings, but I did not intend to. I remember the words I used, and they were thoughtless. In my humility that was granted to me one day, in one particular area, I told God while doing things for Him, that He had nothing for me.
He fires back: "Oh Yeah. LOVE." and it hit me in the side. I was stunned and could not move, and I was very upset, at being physically hurt by God. I still don't think anything I do or say should be able to hurt God, only God is not God, the object, the purpose the function, all the time, sometimes He is just God the person, like you or I are persons, with feelings and emotions. It is in those moments, when God can be hurt by us.
A man, studying to be a priest, once asked his superiors, his professors, Can I console the heart of Jesus? His superior then told him no, that is not possible. He was devastated, as now he had committed heresy in a paper he had written. He had written that it is possible to make Jesus feel better, it is possible to console Him, it is possible to console His heart.
Years passed. He still studied. One day, he consulted another person, a professor I think, and I don't know why. The heresy of his came up. This professor said, Of course you can console the heart of Jesus. I don't know or remember what else was said.
Still time passed after this event. And in a stunningly disturbing event to me, for the response he was given, one day later this happened to him.
He came across the professor, who had told him, that it is not possible to console the Heart of Jesus. He found a way to tell this person, what another professor had told him, in that it is possible to console the Heart of Jesus.
The talk starts, I am going to be hurt, and I was not there. "Of course you can console the heart of Jesus. I did not want you to be distracted from your Theological Studies."
OhMy. I say, the first professor Lied. I did not think it was possible for Academics to lie on purpose. He lied, in my eyes. He injured me, and he injured that man.
Later, the work of this priest, Father Gaitlyn or something like that, became a major work, and if I remember correctly, Jesus actually revealed Himself to that man, in words or some other way, but I think later. And it is in that, Jesus personally helping him out, that his work is now being used.
I have paraphrased, used my own words on some of the above, as I cannot ever remember exact words anymore.
So here is Tishri1's solution, on handling those with contentious ways. Here is also how to handle the ways of the wicked. Here also is how to get closer to God. It is to fear Him, in Biblical ways.
Later, hopefully, we will see in Proverbs how fear of The Lord, results in knowledge of The Holy One. I say, but really a request from most of you here , it is to continue fear of The Lord, with commitment, that results in eventually getting knowledge of The Lord.
Do you think that is how it works?
I say again asking for help, that it is eventually that fear that causes one to tell the truth to everyone, even about yourself, the whole truth, and always, and it is from that hardship, and pain, and commitment to that hardship and pain, that one day Wisdom says to herself: Ahah! I am convinced. They would rather die than tell a lie, and I have seen this time and time again. Let the healing begin. Here comes knowledge. Here comes the rewards.
In the meantime, while getting closer to God, she Wisdom by God, made by God, has told us how to handle mockers and the wicked.
She has also told us how to recognize the wise, and how to deal with them. It is to share what we know. We are also allowed to be pleased and stunned with them when they listen.
I don't think Christian Forums is set up to handle those items correctly. I and other have only the ignore feature, and to be sure it works. However, I would love to see them treat the mockers and the wicked the way Wisdom says to do that.
I hope, I have taught nothing, as I am actually not allowed to teach. I hope I have just shared my experiences.
My eyes are wet again. I don't know why. It is a lighter form of wetness than the other day. They are both wet.
LOVE,
...Mary., .... .
Proverbs 9 New International Version (NIV)
Invitations of Wisdom and Folly
9 Wisdom has built her house;
she has set up[a] its seven pillars.
2 She has prepared her meat and mixed her wine;
she has also set her table.
3 She has sent out her servants, and she calls
from the highest point of the city,
4 “Let all who are simple come to my house!”
To those who have no sense she says,
5 “Come, eat my food
and drink the wine I have mixed.
6 Leave your simple ways and you will live;
walk in the way of insight.”
7 Whoever corrects a mocker invites insults;
whoever rebukes the wicked incurs abuse.
8 Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you;
rebuke the wise and they will love you.
9 Instruct the wise and they will be wiser still;
teach the righteous and they will add to their learning.
10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom,
and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.
11 For through wisdom[b] your days will be many,
and years will be added to your life.
12 If you are wise, your wisdom will reward you;
if you are a mocker, you alone will suffer.
13 Folly is an unruly woman;
she is simple and knows nothing.
14 She sits at the door of her house,
on a seat at the highest point of the city,
15 calling out to those who pass by,
who go straight on their way,
16 “Let all who are simple come to my house!”
To those who have no sense she says,
17 “Stolen water is sweet;
food eaten in secret is delicious!”
18 But little do they know that the dead are there,
that her guests are deep in the realm of the dead.
Footnotes:
Holy Bible, New International Version®, NIV® Copyright ©1973, 1978, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.® Used by permission. All rights reserved worldwide.
Hi,Everyone read Chapter 9 if it is the 9th day of the month today. Come back and give us your thoughts....Tishri1
Again my apologies for posting early.
A question was asked here. The answer to that question is in Proverbs 9:7-9. And yes I have used this and it works great. And yes after being on the forums here and having only the ignore button, I have forgotten what God says with those types.
I am so pleased with Tishri1, for starting me back to ways of wisdom. Yes, when I knew this well and used this correctly, Proverbs 9:7-9, life was better.
Notice though, for most of you are talked about in Proverbs 9:9, what it says about you. Now, if you will read that, I will tell you this next. I am not allowed to teach, so this does not apply to me, teaching that is. Being taught does apply to me.
I will merely share my experiences, and with Wisdom being female, I have that. She used to be near me for years and years as I was learning the Bible from my teacher. Jesus, assigned a person to me, and I did not know it till after I had learned things like Proverbs 9:1, and Wisdom of chapter 8, being created first of all the items created by God. Since she was created, she did not exist at one time, and that removes many ideas about her, from being possible, such as, always was, and always will be.
Here, in Proverbs 9:5. she says come and eat, then she tells me how to handle mockers, and also how to handle the wicked, and also how to handle the wise. She continues and tells me how to get closer to God.
To me she says, Fear the Lord. But in other areas or with time, Fear losing Him by displeasing Him, maybe like in Him divorcing me for bad actions. Fear of the Lord for me started with fear of being punished, and that I think was all there was. I just didn't want to be hurt by Him, anymore.
Later fear, and it may be what it always was and always is, was my fear of hurting His feelings.
One day, several years ago, I would learn that even God The Father has feelings, just like any normal person. One day, I hurt those feelings, but I did not intend to. I remember the words I used, and they were thoughtless. In my humility that was granted to me one day, in one particular area, I told God while doing things for Him, that He had nothing for me.
He fires back: "Oh Yeah. LOVE." and it hit me in the side. I was stunned and could not move, and I was very upset, at being physically hurt by God. I still don't think anything I do or say should be able to hurt God, only God is not God, the object, the purpose the function, all the time, sometimes He is just God the person, like you or I are persons, with feelings and emotions. It is in those moments, when God can be hurt by us.
A man, studying to be a priest, once asked his superiors, his professors, Can I console the heart of Jesus? His superior then told him no, that is not possible. He was devastated, as now he had committed heresy in a paper he had written. He had written that it is possible to make Jesus feel better, it is possible to console Him, it is possible to console His heart.
Years passed. He still studied. One day, he consulted another person, a professor I think, and I don't know why. The heresy of his came up. This professor said, Of course you can console the heart of Jesus. I don't know or remember what else was said.
Still time passed after this event. And in a stunningly disturbing event to me, for the response he was given, one day later this happened to him.
He came across the professor, who had told him, that it is not possible to console the Heart of Jesus. He found a way to tell this person, what another professor had told him, in that it is possible to console the Heart of Jesus.
The talk starts, I am going to be hurt, and I was not there. "Of course you can console the heart of Jesus. I did not want you to be distracted from your Theological Studies."
OhMy. I say, the first professor Lied. I did not think it was possible for Academics to lie on purpose. He lied, in my eyes. He injured me, and he injured that man.
Later, the work of this priest, Father Gaitlyn or something like that, became a major work, and if I remember correctly, Jesus actually revealed Himself to that man, in words or some other way, but I think later. And it is in that, Jesus personally helping him out, that his work is now being used.
I have paraphrased, used my own words on some of the above, as I cannot ever remember exact words anymore.
So here is Tishri1's solution, on handling those with contentious ways. Here is also how to handle the ways of the wicked. Here also is how to get closer to God. It is to fear Him, in Biblical ways.
Later, hopefully, we will see in Proverbs how fear of The Lord, results in knowledge of The Holy One. I say, but really a request from most of you here , it is to continue fear of The Lord, with commitment, that results in eventually getting knowledge of The Lord.
Do you think that is how it works?
I say again asking for help, that it is eventually that fear that causes one to tell the truth to everyone, even about yourself, the whole truth, and always, and it is from that hardship, and pain, and commitment to that hardship and pain, that one day Wisdom says to herself: Ahah! I am convinced. They would rather die than tell a lie, and I have seen this time and time again. Let the healing begin. Here comes knowledge. Here comes the rewards.
In the meantime, while getting closer to God, she Wisdom by God, made by God, has told us how to handle mockers and the wicked.
She has also told us how to recognize the wise, and how to deal with them. It is to share what we know. We are also allowed to be pleased and stunned with them when they listen.
I don't think Christian Forums is set up to handle those items correctly. I and other have only the ignore feature, and to be sure it works. However, I would love to see them treat the mockers and the wicked the way Wisdom says to do that.
I hope, I have taught nothing, as I am actually not allowed to teach. I hope I have just shared my experiences.
My eyes are wet again. I don't know why. It is a lighter form of wetness than the other day. They are both wet.
LOVE,
...Mary., .... .
Proverbs 9 New International Version (NIV)
Invitations of Wisdom and Folly
9 Wisdom has built her house;
she has set up[a] its seven pillars.
2 She has prepared her meat and mixed her wine;
she has also set her table.
3 She has sent out her servants, and she calls
from the highest point of the city,
4 “Let all who are simple come to my house!”
To those who have no sense she says,
5 “Come, eat my food
and drink the wine I have mixed.
6 Leave your simple ways and you will live;
walk in the way of insight.”
7 Whoever corrects a mocker invites insults;
whoever rebukes the wicked incurs abuse.
8 Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you;
rebuke the wise and they will love you.
9 Instruct the wise and they will be wiser still;
teach the righteous and they will add to their learning.
10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom,
and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.
11 For through wisdom[b] your days will be many,
and years will be added to your life.
12 If you are wise, your wisdom will reward you;
if you are a mocker, you alone will suffer.
13 Folly is an unruly woman;
she is simple and knows nothing.
14 She sits at the door of her house,
on a seat at the highest point of the city,
15 calling out to those who pass by,
who go straight on their way,
16 “Let all who are simple come to my house!”
To those who have no sense she says,
17 “Stolen water is sweet;
food eaten in secret is delicious!”
18 But little do they know that the dead are there,
that her guests are deep in the realm of the dead.
Footnotes:
- Proverbs 9:1 Septuagint, Syriac and Targum; Hebrew has hewn out
- Proverbs 9:11 Septuagint, Syriac and Targum; Hebrew me
Holy Bible, New International Version®, NIV® Copyright ©1973, 1978, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.® Used by permission. All rights reserved worldwide.
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