Was it a sin?

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Sins are not simply transgression of the law, infact sins are any actions which break your relationship to God.

The Law covers most of them, but not all of them.

True life is life with God.
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Our position is similar. The Orthodox view sin as similar to a state of disease, and thus the condition of fallen-ness. Many times Scripture uses almost interchangeably statements regarding healing, forgiveness, and salvation. The Greek "sozo" is used for words variously translated into English as "save" and "heal" - though the original manuscripts used the same words. Christ said, "Get up and walk - your sins are forgiven." And so on.

This disease state indeed does separate us from God, and is the cause of our need to "be saved" - restoring us to the likeness of Christ and restoring our fellowship with God as part of the same process.

So I would agree that "sin is that which separates us from God" and that the law does not cover every such instance. Failing to do the right thing if we can discern it is also sin, according to the Scriptures, though there is no written law against not doing good deeds.

Again, welcome to CF. This is an interesting point you bring out. :)
 
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Welcome to CF!

Our position is similar. The Orthodox view sin as similar to a state of disease, and thus the condition of fallen-ness. Many times Scripture uses almost interchangeably statements regarding healing, forgiveness, and salvation. The Greek "sozo" is used for words variously translated into English as "save" and "heal" - though the original manuscripts used the same words. Christ said, "Get up and walk - your sins are forgiven." And so on.

This disease state indeed does separate us from God, and is the cause of our need to "be saved" - restoring us to the likeness of Christ and restoring our fellowship with God as part of the same process.

So I would agree that "sin is that which separates us from God" and that the law does not cover every such instance. Failing to do the right thing if we can discern it is also sin, according to the Scriptures, though there is no written law against not doing good deeds.

Again, welcome to CF. This is an interesting point you bring out. :)

Sin is not an Expression of Disease, it is an expression of Slavery or lack of freedom, as a free person has the strenght to choose what they do. A free person has control over themselves. Self control means self empowerment and so freedom to act as you choose to- if you cannot help yourself you are not free- you are a slave.

This is what Jesus tells us in John "every sinner is a slave." John 8:34

And thankyou it´s nice to be here.
 
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Sin is not an Expression of Disease, it is an expression of Slavery or lack of freedom, as a free person has the strenght to choose what they do. A free person has control over themselves. Self control means self empowerment and so freedom to act as you choose to- if you cannot help yourself you are not free- you are a slave.

This is what Jesus tells us in John "every sinner is a slave." John 8:34

And thankyou it´s nice to be here.

Yes, slavery, I would agree with that. But that does not preclude sin as a disease as well, within our theology. Many things are multi-faceted, and we may explain using a variety of metaphors, as does Christ.


(And it is ok if we do not fully agree here.)

And you're welcome. :)
 
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Yes, slavery, I would agree with that. But that does not preclude sin as a disease as well, within our theology. Many things are multi-faceted, and we may explain using a variety of metaphors, as does Christ.


(And it is ok if we do not fully agree here.)

And you're welcome. :)

Well maybe we do not have to agree, but to see sin as a diease is to see it as something slightly different to what it is.

It´s more towards freedom, choice and self-control then afflictions which people have no say over.

There is no cure for some afflications, there is an answer to all sins- and it´s self-empowerment; or giving people the skills to control themselves and choose more wisely how they act. Still Free will means choice, so sin will always be possible.
 
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I'm not aware of any other commentator ascribing "failure" or "missing the mark" to the Greek. This seems to be a rare meaning in Koine Greek (I could only find one occurrence in Scripture - Sirach 7:36), but it is, in fact, how the word is defined in ancient Greek (see, e.g., http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?la=greek&l=A(MARTA%2FNW#lexicon). I find this etymology interesting. (Sorry if this is all common knowledge to everyone - it was new for me).

I'm a bit confused by your comments.

I have been taught by many pastors and priests that to sin was "to miss the mark" as an archer missing the mark. It is the general understanding of those who use Strong, a standard source for many.

http://biblehub.com/greek/264.htm
 
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Men who are interested in gaining prominence and position exert themselves to get public recognition. They try to ‘sell themselves’ and create a wave of popularity that they can ride to gain power. Jesus Christ, however, was not out for showy publicity. He discouraged it. His kingdom was no part of the world, and, therefore, he had no need for the world’s recognition.

In connection with his performing miraculous cures, we repeatedly read that Jesus charged those who had been healed not to tell anybody about it. (Matthew 9:30; Mark 1:44; 7:36) He also instructed his disciples not to make known that he was the Christ.-Matthew 16:20.

Also other factors appear to have been involved. Rather than seeking notoriety and having people reach conclusions on the basis of sensational reports, Jesus apparently wanted others to decide on solid evidence that he was the Christ. Therefore he did not raise the issue of his Messiahship publicly, but let his works speak for themselves. Example at John 10:24-26. Yes, those proving themselves to be Jesus’ “sheep” had ample evidence for making a decision respecting his being the Christ.

So Jesus did not want men to believe on him because others had talked them into it. He wanted them to decide for themselves whether his words and acts fulfilled the prophecies concerning the Messiah or not. He did not want any decision to be based on excited reports passed from mouth to mouth and enlarged upon, or on noisy advertising of him in the streets. He was not out for publicity of that kind, as the Pharisees were. (Matthew 6:2, 5) The Bible establishes this at Matthew 12:15-19 So Jesus’ prohibition on the promiscuous advertising of his miracles and Messiahship was in fulfillment of prophecy.-Isaiah 42:2.
 
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