Rachael Doleza and Catilyn Jenner; what's the difference?

ecco · Nov 10, 2015

Ken-1122 said:
Was it medically determined that Bruce Jenner's brain was affected this way at birth? Or is this just something you suspect could be possible?

Ken

Everyone's brain, and the rest of our bodies, are affected by what happens during nine months in the womb. You may have received more or less testosterone than your brother. this affects the way you look and think.

tulipbee · Nov 10, 2015

DaveW-Ohev said:
Answer my question about David and Bathsheba.

So that one was adultery? Did she get pregnant?

tulipbee · Nov 10, 2015

Skaloop said:
I don't care what the Bible intends, personally, but there are lots of married couples who have sex without any form of contraception and don't have kids.

Funny how bill Clinton asked the courts to define sex and the lawyers were speechless and has to let bill go so he could return to being the president. It's impossible for male to have sex with male and females have sex with females. Where do we draw the line in kisses and Massages? Masturbation is massage not sex. Foreplay only works in intercourse. I don't think anyone here can give me the true definition of sex. You should care for the truths

tulipbee · Nov 10, 2015

DaveW-Ohev said:
That is a man-made extension. Condoms and other mechanical forms of contraception did not exist so the bible never speaks to that issue one way or the other.

There you go! Extensions means adding to the bible when it's not really there. RCC style

Dave-W · Nov 10, 2015

tulipbee said:
So that one was adultery?

Lets see - He was married to several wives including Abagail and Michal.
She was married to Uriah.

Yeah - that was adultery.

Did she get pregnant?

Yes - and God killed the child because of the adultery. (not to mention the murder to cover it up)

Dave-W · Nov 10, 2015

tulipbee said:
I don't think anyone here can give me the true definition of sex.

Try this one on for size:

Any activity between 2 or more people which involves sexual stimulation and arousal.

Dave-W · Nov 10, 2015

tulipbee said:
Masturbation is massage not sex.

Many define masturbation as sex as well.

Skaloop · Nov 10, 2015

tulipbee said:
Funny how bill Clinton asked the courts to define sex and the lawyers were speechless and has to let bill go so he could return to being the president. It's impossible for male to have sex with male and females have sex with females. Where do we draw the line in kisses and Massages? Masturbation is massage not sex. Foreplay only works in intercourse. I don't think anyone here can give me the true definition of sex. You should care for the truths

In the context of my statement, I meant sex as in sexual intercourse, penis-in-vagina style, with [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] inside the female. Lots of married couples do that and don't have kids.

antitox · Nov 10, 2015

Wow. There are some here that believe that Jenner really is a woman born a man? Then they are telling me that God makes mistakes. I know there is no error with the God of Perfection and Reality.

This just shows how this nation is losing its mind. All over this country people are being led by their nose, feelings, and desires. Placing feelings over reality is quite foolhardy. It's actually a surreal experience to witness.

Skaloop · Nov 10, 2015

antitox said:
Wow. There are some here that believe that Jenner really is a woman born a man? Then they are telling me that God makes mistakes. I know there is no error with the God of Perfection and Reality.

Or, God didn't make a mistake, and Caitlyn Jenner is exactly as God wants her to be.

Hetta · Nov 10, 2015

antitox said:
Wow. There are some here that believe that Jenner really is a woman born a man? Then they are telling me that God makes mistakes. I know there is no error with the God of Perfection and Reality.

Does that "perfection and reality" include babies born with chromosome disorders so that they are not 100% either male or female? You do know that happens, right?

Hetta · Nov 10, 2015

DaveW-Ohev said:
Many define masturbation as sex as well.

All those teens who think that oral sex "isn't sex" because there was no actual penetration. Of course it's sex. <facepalm>

Hetta · Nov 10, 2015

tulipbee said:
Why the vows when friends love friends? I think the original marriage is intended for raising a family

Then you think wrong, unless you also think that the impotent and sterile should divorce, or that those who later in life cannot have sex due to illness or disability should divorce, or that widows/widowers shouldn't remarry, or goodness, there are a whole host of reasons why people don't "raise a family." There are more things in heaven and earth than dreamt of in your philosophy ... Horatio.

antitox · Nov 10, 2015

Hetta said:
Does that "perfection and reality" include babies born with chromosome disorders so that they are not 100% either male or female? You do know that happens, right?

This life is imperfect. You and I are imperfect as well as the fallen state of all man and creation due to it's initial rejection of Him. If you are a non-Christian I wouldn't expect you to understand because it requires God's Spirit in your life to make way for any perception of it. Otherwise, the communique is very limited.

antitox · Nov 10, 2015

Skaloop said:
Or, God didn't make a mistake, and Caitlyn Jenner is exactly as God wants her to be.

If that's what you wish to believe. In this fallen state people are going to deny reality - and honestly it's becoming more common by the day.

Hetta · Nov 10, 2015

antitox said:
This life is imperfect. You and I are imperfect as well as the fallen state of all man and creation due to it's initial rejection of Him. If you are a non-Christian I wouldn't expect you to understand because it requires God's Spirit in your life to make way for any perception of it. Otherwise, the communique is very limited.

So then Caitlyn is imperfect.

antitox · Nov 10, 2015

Hetta said:
So then Caitlyn is imperfect.

That's one truth.

Dave-W · Nov 10, 2015

tulipbee said:
Why the vows when friends love friends?

This statement refuses to recognize one or more realities.

* People have sex drives. That means they are driven to have sex.

* Sex is ONLY allowed within a covenant of marriage. (the vows)

So either you are ignoring the sex drives; or ignoring the restriction on sex to confine it to the marriage covenant.

Hetta · Nov 10, 2015

antitox said:
That's one truth.

As you stated, we are all imperfect. I'm sure you think you're not as imperfect as she, but in fact you are just as imperfect.

Ken-1122 · Nov 10, 2015

ecco said:
Everyone's brain, and the rest of our bodies, are affected by what happens during nine months in the womb. You may have received more or less testosterone than your brother. this affects the way you look and think.

Perhaps Rachael's brain was affected while she was in the womb in a way that makes her want to be black.

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