Is the theory of evolution moral and ethical

allhart said:

Come on now get on with your insults....

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Insults????

Are you serious????

You are the one who claimed most people are; dumbed down/indoctrinated by the elite. Is that not insulting?

I simply asked you to confirm you were not one of them.

allhart said:

Truth is stranger than fiction n most fiction that is entertained becomes reality... Just love the CERN insanity or Tesla patents... They made tesla out to be some tootsie fruity.... Proofs in the pudding....

Justifications only sound good to those who make them.... Shalom

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Cool story. Let us know when you have anything resembling evidence for these wild accusations. Until then I'll treat them as the ludicrous conspiracy theories they look like.

allhart said:

Come on now let's look at the unemployment stats or how about national debt stats.... Cooking the books anyone lol

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Or we could look at your claims and note that they do not align with reality.

Most of this debating is based in personal truths n justifications not in reality of the truth... Beating one another over the head with a wall of defense....u can be the most edumicated person on anyone subject n still have critics lol.... I like talking to ppl that are open to be entertained on ideas n respect that u can engage ideas without a walled defense.... The more I learn the more I recognize I do not know anything.. U can have all the worlds knowledge at your fingertips but if u have not the Godly wisdom to put it all together it is meaningless.... Most Ppl have closed minds n do not dream anymore...

allhart said:

Most of this debating is based in personal truths n justifications not in reality of the truth... Beating one another over the head with a wall of defense....u can be the most edumicated person on anyone subject n still have critics lol.... I like talking to ppl that are open to be entertained on ideas n respect that u can engage ideas without a walled defense.... The more I learn the more I recognize I do not know anything.. U can have all the worlds knowledge at your fingertips but if u have not the Godly wisdom to put it all together it is meaningless.... Most Ppl have closed minds n do not dream anymore...

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It all depends on how much objective evidence one has to support their position, as to whether their position has validity. And, if you do not know anything, you sure make a lot of claims of knowledge.

In regards to your other comments, it is fine for you to believe that, but I would refrain from assuming it applies to others.

bhsmte said:

It all depends on how much objective evidence one has to support their position, as to whether their position has validity. And, if you do not know anything, you sure make a lot of claims of knowledge.

In regards to your other comments, it is fine for you to believe that, but I would refrain from assuming it applies to others.

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In my proior statements on this thread... Design is where I am predisposed.... No one can ask a question being totally objective but subjective however results have no agenda only we do....
My presupposition is reproving the word of Yahweh by science not disproving.... Good, bad or indifferent at least one can respect that or throw a fit

Are u willing to change your position of science if the evidence shows your life's work to be wrong.... First knee jerk reaction is to not even consider the contrary to your predisposed inconclusive ideas....can u entertain the other idea!?

Example the difference btw sphered earth vs flat earth both theories can be made to make sense but u are predisposed by sudo science n it's art to look at it.... U will not look at it with any presupposition.... U will not entertain information!?

allhart said:

Are u willing to change your position of science if the evidence shows your life's work to be wrong.... First knee jerk reaction is to not even consider the contrary to your predisposed inconclusive ideas....can u entertain the other idea!?

Example the difference btw sphered earth vs flat earth both theories can be made to make sense but u are predisposed by sudo science n it's art to look at it.... U will not look at it with any presupposition.... U will not entertain information!?

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Considering what we know about earth and the universe, can you explain (in detail) how a flat earth theory can be made to make sense?

bhsmte said:

Considering what we know about earth and the universe, can you explain (in detail) how a flat earth theory can be made to make sense?

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What do u know about the earth!? What u have been told ever sense u where a child!? Look up the Michael Morley experiment also did you know that Wernher Von Braun who was Hitlers scientist.... They were against Yahweh, Yahweh's ppl n against creation.... Werner Von Braun established NASA n your one photo u claim to be real!?

What is the firmament n Yahweh said u could see the works of his hands n reproof in nature that he is real

What about Richard admiral Bird's expeditions in Antarctica n the global treaty!?

allhart said:

What do u know about the earth!? What u have been told ever sense u where a child!? Look up the Michael Morley experiment also did you know that Wernher Von Braun who was Hitlers scientist.... They were against Yahweh, Yahweh's ppl n against creation.... Werner Von Braun established NASA n your one photo u claim to be real!?

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Did you not claim you could make the flat earth theory make sense?

Can you support that claim or not?

sparow said:

Is the theory of evolution really a theory; there are rules governing scientific theories and I wonder if scientists have bent the rules to accommodate the theory of evolution.


The theory of evolution is used by the opponents of Christianity to ridicule the concept of creation so in the first place Christians are defensive. When the Pope say it looks like evolution may be true it is difficult to work out what he is talking about or why he would want to talk about it in the first place.

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Problem is, Christ is the head of the church, exactly as the Bible states. Those who worship God in Spirit and in truth. Those who build their foundation on the rock of Christ in the spirit, shall be unshakeable.

1 Cor 3:11 "For another foundation can no man lay than that which is already laid, which is Jesus Christ." < and upon this rock/foundation of concrete (Jesus himself) the head of the church (Colossians 1:8 "And he is the head of the body, the church) i shall build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it, because Christ cannot be shaken, and those who are in Christ through the Spirit are his church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against them because God is the almighty wall of defense. 1 John 4:4 "because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."

The Pope has nothing to do with it.

allhart said:

What do u know about the earth!? What u have been told ever sense u where a child!? Look up the Michael Morley experiment also did you know that Wernher Von Braun who was Hitlers scientist.... They were against Yahweh, Yahweh's ppl n against creation.... Werner Von Braun established NASA n your one photo u claim to be real!?

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What photo are you talking about?

It appears you are headed down the conspiracy theory route. Maybe you should open a thread over there.

Can u calculate the sphere's curvature. Every five miles by there calculations u lose 8" then how come we can see Chicago from the other side of the Great Lakes n here in California I can see from Santa Cruz the monetary peninsula etc etc etc.... We spin a 1000 miles n hour n where is the commonsense in that.... I ask that as a kid, you?

bhsmte said:

What photo are you talking about?

It appears you are headed down the conspiracy theory route. Maybe you should open a thread over there.

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No science.... Like I said here is the knee "JERK" reaction I was talking about.... I gave u Michael Morley n historical facts about Werner Von Braun.... Paper clip is not a theory but a fact

Crowns&Laurels said:

A better way to go about it is to ask "is the theory of evolution a justifiable palette for moral ethics".
In which case, it presumably isn't. There's only survival of the fittest and primacy of the apex, which is diametrically opposed to absolute morals and God being apex.

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Why would any scientific theory be a justifiable palette for moral ethics? I would think that most people accept the germ theory of disease, yet no one is using the theory to justify the world wide inoculation of the human race with deadly diseases. Just because something is natural does not necessarily make it morally good. I believe Hume spoke about this at length.

Look at the UN FLAG

allhart said:

No science.... Like I said here is the knee "JERK" reaction I was talking about.... I gave u Michael Morley n historical facts about Werner Von Braun.... Paper clip is not a theory but a fact

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What does Werner Von Braun have to do with you claiming to be able to make the flat earth theory make sense?

allhart said:

Look at the UN FLAG

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What about it?