Agents of the Apocalypse - Your thoughts on David Jeremiah?

Do you think you'll see the "end times" in your lifetime?

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  • I have a different perspective and I'll explain in my reply here

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heatedmonk

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He is an advocate of modern Dispensational Theology, which was brought to America by John Darby about the time of the Civil War.

Since that time it has spread to most of the evangelical Church in America, especially Baptist churches.

Dallas Theological Seminary has been teaching the doctrine to pastors for close to a century now.

It ignores the New Covenant found in Hebrews 8:6-13.



Origin of the Pretrib Rapture Doctrine
http://www.answersinrevelation.org/pretrib_history.pdf

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Last time I saw him, I thought I saw horns growing out of his head...lol.

He has a great, confident gentle, seemingly caring teaching voice, and that and the Dallas credentials makes his message seem more believable and authoritative.

He's hook, line and sinker into the literal, futurist, dispensational paradigm and has made his living and "ministry" from the end times facination and curiocities, similar to Hagee, lindsey Perry Stone , and much of TBN & the 700 Club.
 
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PI'm also think that he is genuine and sincere in his beliefs.

The "horns" were probably the way his eyebrows turn up and meant humorously, not personally.

After coming to a secure understanding and conviction of first century perspectives, I look with sadness towards him and those who are influenced by him, and am begining to think of his teachings and seminars as a fictional fantacy entertainment production and comedy.

There is a principle of hermeneutic that is oft overlooked. That is, Prophecy is to be understood from the time and mind perspective of the prophet and the people (mosaic covt group) who are its audience when it was given/written, not from the mindset and time of anyone who reads it in the future.

The first century jews/gentiles were still in the world and age of the mosaic covt to whom the prophecies (including the summarization of the letter of revelation) were made.

Thus, they were among the "US" to whom the prophets prophecied as noted in 1 Peter 1:10-12 & 2 Pet 1:20,21.



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After coming to a secure understanding and conviction of first century perspectives, I look with sadness towards him and those who are influenced by him, and am begining to think of his teachings and seminars as a fictional fantacy entertainment production and comedy.

Have you had a chance to take a look at the New Covenant perspective?


What is New Covenant Theology? Part 1

(It is not Reformed Covenant Theology)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHR99-rnqt8

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Have you had a chance to take a look at the New Covenant perspective?


What is New Covenant Theology? Part 1

(It is not Reformed Covenant Theology)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHR99-rnqt8

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Yes, I saw that in another post. David Jeremiah would likely think that the "new covt" wasn't yet establisged with tge house of Isrsel/Judah but was rejected.

The 'church age is sorta a plan b.

When I had a class on Hebrews at Bible college, the profesor tried to sway us towards thinking that there was 2 new covts; one with the church and one yet to be fulfilled to Israel. When we tested out, I refused to even consider his ideas as a possibility when discussing that sect of hebrews which dealt with the new covt. He docked it pretty hard.

I think David Jeremiah would follow the dispensational lines concerning hebrews and the new covt.

I follow the points of thd youtube video but am even more seperating of the old & new covts.

The mosaic covt of the book of deuteronomy was the antithesis of the new (everlasting ) covt.


Many churches have the idea that the new covt is like the mosaic covt but with different rules and only 2 rituals (baptism & communion) added to the 10 commandments.

I agree with this speaker that the 10 commandments are obsolete with the law of moses. Paul affirms this in rom 2 & Gal 4.

Jesus brought the new law of faith and subordination to the truth of the divinity of life as a reason to love your neighbor.
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