Why Do We Not Use The Name Of God YHVH?

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You did not answer my question, where and when did you study Hebrew? You have been given some very faulty information. I do not profess to be an expert but I have studied both Biblical languages at the post graduate level. I have Hebrew lexicons and grammars in my personal library. What makes you think anything was changed? I have heard these claims before from various 'sacred name" groups. But they never provide any evidence for thier claims.
For your information there were and are no vowels in Hebrew. ו The letter you are calling a "U" is in fact a consonant. The correct name for it is waw. It can sometimes have the "U" sound depending on which vowel sound precedes it. Much like our letter "W" Sometimes it can have an "oo" sound as in "two." Or an "aw" sound as in law. Or an "o" sound as in "tow."




You said I should study. Googling is not studying. I remind you I have studied Hebrew at the graduate level. All you are doing is saying "I'm right and you're wrong. Am too! Nuh Huh!" I would like to see credible, verifiable, historical evidence as I presented in my previous post, not unsupported personal opinion. Just because something is posted on the internet does not make it true.

Sadly, you seem closed off to learning and expanding your knowledge. I'm not here to spoon-feed you, especially since you obviously have no desire to eat anything other than what lines up with scholars you have placed your faith in. I have nothing left to say since your mind is clearly made up. I wish you well. No hard feelings

Shalom!
 
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Sadly, you seem closed off to learning and expanding your knowledge. I'm not here to spoon-feed you, especially since you obviously have no desire to eat anything other than what lines up with scholars you have placed your faith in. I have nothing left to say since your mind is clearly made up. I wish you well. No hard feelings
Shalom!

Oh I'm closed off from learning because I won't shut my eyes, turn off my intelligence and common sense, roll belly up like a dead guppy, and blindly believe what every anonymous person posts here. You have not said anything that I have not heard before. I have heard this same false teaching several times, here and on other forums.

Just because you or someone else fervently believes something is right does not make it so. I learned how to read and write from teachers, I learned about history, geography, government, etc. from scholars. I have yet to see any rational reason why I should reject what scholars teach now, just because some anonymous screen name says I should. You not responding to me does not bother me, in the least, but that will not deter me from pointing out the false information you are posting.
 
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Yes, as I pointed out earlier, names have meanings. Abraham means something, Moses means something, and YHWH means something. But the name of Abraham is Abraham, the name of Moses is Moses, the name of YHWH is YHWH. (Or YHVH if you prefer).
The name of YHWH is "God."
Obviously.
The name "YHWH" looks like gibberish (at least another language) and is
NOT useful in English.

(If one does not want to use any name for God because one considers to do such sacrilege, that is another story.)
 
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To be honest, I'm not quite sure how it's spelled but it is pronounced Yahveh. You may have this wonderful education but if you are not spiritually awake what good is it going to do you?

All I can say is I have true joy in my heart right now and am elated that I know this.

Have a good evening!
 
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Yes, as I pointed out earlier, names have meanings. Abraham means something, Moses means something, and YHWH means something. But the name of Abraham is Abraham, the name of Moses is Moses, the name of YHWH is YHWH. (Or YHVH if you prefer).


My question has nit been answered--What did Jesus call Him, what did the disciples call him--what did the New testament writers call Him?
I will say this much---Jesus instructed His disciples in how to pray---and He said

(Mat 6:9) After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

If you have a problem with what Jesus said to His disciples about how to address God in prayer than, by all means, tell Him He is wrong.
Please state verses to show what new testament command there is as to the one and only name to call Our Father.
 
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Elohiym is a word for God, or god...or humans. For example, Elohiym is used in reference to Moses in scripture, but also in reference to YHVH.

For one thing, and as can be seen on these forums, there are only about a dozen different variations of the name you are advocating, and each poster apparently thinks that it matters a lot that their exact version of it is the only correct one.

That is an ignorant asumption my friend, I use both name and title that the actual scriptures use because the scriptures say it is a crime to do otherwise;

Y'shua is the word of Elohym, if you Love the Son, then you Love the Word of Elohym;


If you believe, and rely on the son, then you believe and rely on the Word of Elohym, which says you will not add or diminish ought from the Word of Elohym;

In Hosea Ea'huah Elohym informs us that he shall take all of the names of Baal out of our mouths, and no longer refer to him by them;

Baal literally means Lord & Adonai!

Everywhere you see the word LORD in all caps that is where they both added and diminished ought;

To make matters worse, Ea'huah Elohym specifically instructed the Saints to not mention the names which the Pagans used when they called upon Him;

Lord = Baal
Gawd is the name the Babylonians used in the bible, and God is the name that the Pagan Germans used before they were converted, and that is the Only reason why He is disobeyed and called that name to this day!
 
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Tell me, why does knowing the name matter? Does it grant you some kind of magical power? Do you think it is proper to address God by His name as if he were your buddy? You wouldn't do that to any earthly dignitary, would you?

Why would I compare The Divine Author of Heaven and Earth to an earthly dignitary?

"All those who call on the name of Ea'huah will be saved"

The most important thing I get from using His name, besides scriptural insight [i.e. I am Ea'huah (Existence) and there is nothing else beside me] I am constantly reminded who you are a part of and have not the luxury to hate you because I believe He is, and there is no one else.
 
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Why use the name of God YHVH - Since other religions pray to their god and use the terms "God," "Lord" and "Lord Almighty," Yahweh (YHWH) distinguishes Him apart from the others. According to some resources, Yahweh is used in Scripture more than His other names.

There are numerous Scriptures about how important His name is including: "And on the basis of · faith in · his name—his name itself has made this man strong, whom you see and know. · The faith that is through Jesus has given him · this wholeness before all of you." Acts 3:16 "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Acts 4:12
 
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Why use the name of God YHVH - Since other religions pray to their god and use the terms "God," "Lord" and "Lord Almighty," Yahweh (YHWH) distinguishes Him apart from the others. According to some resources, Yahweh is used in Scripture more than His other names.

There are numerous Scriptures about His name including: "And on the basis of · faith in · his name—his name itself has made this man strong, whom you see and know. · The faith that is through Jesus has given him · this wholeness before all of you." Acts 3:16

Our father is used every day in referring to our own earthly fathers---so again I am asking---Is Jesus wrong to state that we should address God in prayer with "Our Father?"
 
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He also said, "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." Matt 23:9

He's not suggesting a discord in earthly families either because He said to honor our father and mother and by doing so there is a promise.
 
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Our father is used every day in referring to our own earthly fathers---so again I am asking---Is Jesus wrong to state that we should address God in prayer with "Our Father?"
Of course not, Jesus is not wrong.

There are many names appropriate for God.
Some obscure term that is not even found in Scripture (mostly because it is of another language than the one we are here using) does not enhance our understanding of anything. (We convey thought with phrases and sentences, not by some obscure name.)
 
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Why use the name of God YHVH - Since other religions pray to their god and use the terms "God," "Lord" and "Lord Almighty," Yahweh (YHWH) distinguishes Him apart from the others. According to some resources, Yahweh is used in Scripture more than His other names.

There are numerous Scriptures about how important His name is including: "And on the basis of · faith in · his name—his name itself has made this man strong, whom you see and know. · The faith that is through Jesus has given him · this wholeness before all of you." Acts 3:16 "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Acts 4:12

By "name" are not these scriptures referring to a particular person?

Acts3:16 follows 14 and 15 where the reference to God (Thee Son and our salvation) is "the Prince of life" and "the Holy One." Presumably there is only one "Holy One" and that is the triune God.
 
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justlookinla said:
Why use 'God' or 'Lord' when those aren't names?
The name for God in the OT is specifically YHWH.
If YHWH isn't identifying Jesus, who is it identifying?

Wgw said:
I think in the lack of clear context the name should be properly applied to God or the Trinity in the abstract as an unified entity.

Yahweh is the one and only God, the one Supreme Being. The Father as revealed with what Christ showed and said is this God, Yahweh. A good number of passages show that Jesus Christ, the incarnation of Logos the Word with God who is God, as the Son of God, is this God Yahweh. The Spirit of God is shown to be God and, in unity with the heavenly Father and Logos the Word who came as the Son, as one in being, is Yahweh God. Yahweh is one in being though as these three that are in fully unified relationship with total agreement and without conradicting each other in any way.

Jesus spoke of the heavenly Father with revealing things about him. But he never approved of traditions from the leaders that were not based on what was really said from the scriptures and contrary in something from what Yahweh said. Jesus did make the name of God known, John 17:6 and other verses there, and even with also being that same God, the name, which is the name of the Father, the Son, and the Spirit, is the name of Yahweh.

tturt said:
Why use the name of God YHVH - Since other religions pray to their god and use the terms "God," "Lord" and "Lord Almighty," Yahweh (YHWH) distinguishes Him apart from the others. According to some resources, Yahweh is used in Scripture more than His other names.
There are numerous Scriptures about how important His name is including: "And on the basis of · faith in · his name—his name itself has made this man strong, whom you see and know. · The faith that is through Jesus has given him · this wholeness before all of you." Acts 3:16 "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Acts 4:12

Indeed it is never said anywhere in scriptures that his name stopped being important to have for remembering, to counter what was originally said for his name.

Douglas Hendrickson said:
There are many names appropriate for God.
Some obscure term that is not even found in Scripture (mostly because it is of another language than the one we are here using) does not enhance our understanding of anything. (We convey thought with phrases and sentences, not by some obscure name.)

What obscure term is referred to here? It shouldn't be the name of Yahweh, represented with letters for YHWH in the original writings which are the revealed scriptures, with the name shown at least about 6990 times, far more times than any other way of naming God. Whether a thought of some meaning is conveyed with that or not is irrelevant when it is revealed as his name, in Exodus 3:15, where Yahweh said his name is forever to be remembered for all generations, and Yahweh was never ignorant of the Jewish leaders that would be enforcing their tradition that would have the Jews forget how to say his name, Yahweh still said that and such were disobedient, just as the leaders were with traditions for which Jesus criticized them.
 
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Jesus did make the name of God known, John 17:6 and other verses there, and even with also being that same God, the name, which is the name of the Father, the Son, and the Spirit, is the name of Yahweh.

Please give the chapter and verse where Jesus and the disciples used the name Yahweh.
 
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