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Yeah I think I'm headed that direction..... ;)

Sounds like fun. I just bought the last of the parts needed for my next build, which will be very similar to yours in spec, except that I opted for a stainless Wylde chambered barrel in 7 twist, which I'll coat in flat black, and a few other minor control enhancements. I have another receiver set and I'm already thinking about the next one. Eventually, I'd like to end up with a 300 Blackout and a 458 SOCOM, but I may let the other receiver collect dust for now and concentrate on uppers instead. I like the Geiselle SSA-E triggers but they are pretty big bucks so along with other expensive parts that make up a lower, putting uppers together can save quite a bit of money overall.

To me, 5.56/223, 300 Blackout, and 458 SOCOM cover the bases in an AR-15, and an AR-10 in 7mm-08 would take care of the rest. Oh wait, this is "One Gun", never mind.:angel:
 
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With the 5.56 chamber it's safer to fire .223 but not vice-versa IIRC?

I do love the Wylde ("wild" or "wild-E" or "will-DEE"?) option and Ruger should have used it but expect it's not "common" enough for the average consumer...


I've always pronounced Wylde, "wild". I haven't heard anyone else pronounce it differently, but like everything else, opinions are sure to vary.

The leade is shorter in a 223 Rem chamber than a 5.56 chamber, so that it will normally be OK to fire 223 rounds in a 5.56 but not the other way around, like you said.

The Wylde chamber is basically a compromise, to the extent that supposedly, it's safe to fire 5.56 NATO or 223 Rem ammo in a Wylde chamber interchangeably. NATO spec drawings sometimes show the case neck diameter as being .oo2" bigger in diameter than with the 223 Rem, and supposedly, it's because NATO specs call for a thicker-walled case. But I've measured almost that much variation between sized necks from different dies.

Other than that, the two cases are almost always shown to have identical outside dimensions. The difference is in the leade of the chamber. The problem (reportedly) is that the bullet in some NATO rounds jam into the lands of the 223 Rem chambered rifling due to its shorter leade, causing excessive pressure.

I don't quite understand this, and I'd like to read a technical article on it. The bullet gets jammed into the rifling every time the gun is fired, and usually before the bullet has completely left the case neck, so I'm not sure what the big deal is. For best accuracy, reloaders often end up seating the bullet to touch the lands. So if a bullet is seated out, say .020" further, it can blow up because the bullet has already started down through the rifling? The "GO"/"NO GO" headspace range is rarely more than .010", so how would the gun go into battery if the bullet held it back .020", and if the bullet is starting its usual path into the rifling instead, isn't that what it always does? So if a bullet is freebore for any distance at all, say .005", the pressure will be substantially less?

Anyway. With the proper gauges, such as Hornady makes, determining maximum cartridge overall length for any specific bullet and leade is possible, easy, and almost fun. Or for peace of mind and simplicity, either go with the ammunition designation as marked on the gun or get a 5.56 NATO chamber and forget the whole issue.

Here's an article on the topic: http://bearingarms.com/223-remington-vs-556-nato-what-you-dont-know-could-hurt-you/
 
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I know a guy who lived through society falling. He said pistols were the way to go. Its portable and you can take it wherever you go. He said its not like everything goes down at once. Its more like things get worse and worse and worse. You still go to work but things get sketchier until its a mess. He also said to hoard tradable stuff like bullets, food, cigs, booze and to have friends who share guard duty with you. The lone guy who has a stash of ammo and food eventually sleeps... and then he and his stuff disappear. Its chilling, but you can prep.
 
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