Ben Carson-how will his Seventh-day Adventist faith impact his campaign? Presidency??

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This is sounding like Mitt Romney all over again. The Left needs to get over it.
Why? The right is STILL talking about Obama's religion.

The left will get over it when the right does....

I recall people on the right refusing to vote for Romney because he is Mormon.
 
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SDA is true christian, mormon is not.
Except if running as a Republican. Then Mormonism is Christian. Please update your game program accordingly.
 
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Except if running as a Republican. Then Mormonism is Christian. Please update your game program accordingly.

It's been said that our system of Government is based upon "Christianity" and the "Doctrine of Jesus Christ",
and it is totally inadequate for any other any other people.

And that is true, only a true living God is able to bless people and their nation.

all these "other gods", "other religions" have no power to bless or curse.

God doesn't believe in "equal rights" where religion is concerned, all roads don't lead to God or his blessing.

Jesus is the only way to God, only way to have a "blessed people" and a "blessed nation".

and it all depends on each and every individual conducting themselves in a manner consistence with the teaching of God/Jesus.

Depart from that "system" and no people or nation can prosper.
 
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It's been said that our system of Government is based upon "Christianity" and the "Doctrine of Jesus Christ",
and it is totally inadequate for any other any other people.

And that is true, only a true living God is able to bless people and their nation.

all these "other gods", "other religions" have no power to bless or curse.

God doesn't believe in "equal rights" where religion is concerned, all roads don't lead to God or his blessing.

Jesus is the only way to God, only way to have a "blessed people" and a "blessed nation".

and it all depends on each and every individual conducting themselves in a manner consistence with the teaching of God/Jesus.

Depart from that "system" and no people or nation can prosper.
This nation was built on conquest, death and slavery. If that is what is meant to be 'blessed' then America has it in spades.
 
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This nation was built on conquest, death and slavery. If that is what is meant to be 'blessed' then America has it in spades.

So was Israel build on conquest and death, how many people did God instruct Israel to kill in seizing the land??

slavery is a matter of interpretation, women wasn't actually "free" in those days, they were traded off for financial/power gains, some beaten same as all slaves.
 
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Jesus is the only way to God, only way to have a "blessed people" and a "blessed nation".

and it all depends on each and every individual conducting themselves in a manner consistence with the teaching of God/Jesus.

Depart from that "system" and no people or nation can prosper.
I agree with the first line. The rest you would have to back up with scripture for me.

slavery is a matter of interpretation, women wasn't actually "free" in those days, they were traded off for financial/power gains, some beaten same as all slaves
Not with God's blessings.
 
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It's been said that our system of Government is based upon "Christianity" and the "Doctrine of Jesus Christ",
and it is totally inadequate for any other any other people.

It has been said that whoever said that is wrong and cannot be redeemed.
 
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Ps 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Not hard to do.
Surely that is true, that all evil will be cast into hell. Even sometimes nations fall because they become so evil, sometimes they don't fall and continue in evil.
But that does not speak to all God's blessings on this earth.

Mat 5:44 but I--I say to you, Love your enemies, bless those cursing you, do good to those hating you, and pray for those accusing you falsely, and persecuting you,
Mat 5:45 that ye may be sons of your Father in the heavens, because His sun He doth cause to rise on evil and good, and He doth send rain on righteous and unrighteous.

They just don't know that their rain came from Him. Some of them are like the philosophers at Mars Hill, with the memorial to the Unknown God.
 
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Surely that is true, that all evil will be cast into hell. Even sometimes nations fall because they become so evil, sometimes they don't fall and continue in evil.
But that does not speak to all God's blessings on this earth.

Mat 5:44 but I--I say to you, Love your enemies, bless those cursing you, do good to those hating you, and pray for those accusing you falsely, and persecuting you,
Mat 5:45 that ye may be sons of your Father in the heavens, because His sun He doth cause to rise on evil and good, and He doth send rain on righteous and unrighteous.

They just don't know that their rain came from Him. Some of them are like the philosophers at Mars Hill, with the memorial to the Unknown God.

Do you believe that Holy Ghost of Jesus sent to teach/lead/guide is teaching all these different doctrines to different people and denominations???

Many people do, and that's what leads to this idea that if you show a little respect for God, doesn't matter what doctrine you believe, anybody/everybody will go to heaven.

But God created man to have "Fellowship with Him", obviously that means a "Relationship" and "Communication" between God and man.

Israel closed their eyes/ears to Jesus, claiming to worship the same God they had worshiped for something like two thousand years, which Jesus really was the same God in the "Flesh", we know how that worked out for them.

So even trying to worship the true God in Heaven is "worthless" unless there is a "Relationship/Communication" in the only way God will accept, that is through/by the Holy "Ghost", of Jesus.

Beliefs, Church Rituals, Denominations, doesn't matter, the only thing that does is having this "Relationship/Communication" with God,

and as Jesus said, "You will know the truth", because the Ghost doesn't teach false doctrines or lies.

But just like Israel, they'll always be some still preaching their false doctrine as they pass through the gates of hell.
 
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Do you believe that Holy Ghost of Jesus sent to teach/lead/guide is teaching all these different doctrines to different people and denominations???
No.

Do you believe that God knows the heart/mind of all men?

Who did God use to free the Israelites from Babylon and not only free them but provide them with all the materials to build the second temple? Did God put those men in their powerful positions as kings?

Do you believe that God might bless unbelievers because He knows that they will share their wealth with the poor or those who need medical care in third world countries?

Mat 5:44 but I--I say to you, Love your enemies, bless those cursing you, do good to those hating you, and pray for those accusing you falsely, and persecuting you,
Mat 5:45 that ye may be sons of your Father in the heavens, because His sun He doth cause to rise on evil and good, and He doth send rain on righteous and unrighteous.
 
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He said that he thought God had had a good idea there. Anyone who insists upon taking that out of context and ballooning it into something other than was meant is just looking to find fault IMO.


How am I finding fault by noting he is referencing religion? The question is how his faith will impact his campaign or presidency. I am noting that his answer in the debate, by any measure, involves a religious contention.

One of the arguments often presented against a flat tax is that it is not fair, and that progressive tax scales are comparatively more fair. He counters this by saying that if God imposed a set percentage on all income classes then it must be inherently fair, or God would not have done it. Whether someone agrees with this application of the principle or not, or whether one agrees with the imposition of a flat tax or not, this is still a religious contention.

It is a religious contention as it is based on what God has done as recorded in the OT Scriptures. Those who do not believe in God, or that God really did what was recorded in the OT Scriptures would not be convinced by the argument at all.

It not only gives the impression that Carson is convinced of the fairness of a notion of a set percentage by the OT text, but that he is appealing particularly to those, whether Republican, Democrat or otherwise, who hold to a similar view of God and the Scriptures. To others, who do not believe in God, or who reject the notion that God did this in the OT, the argument would not be compelling.
 
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