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1 Thessalonians 3:4-7 >
Paul and Silvanus and Timothy say they told the Thessalonians that they would "suffer tribulation". We will suffer for the gospel, for believing in and preaching the death of Jesus for our sins, and preaching His resurrection from the dead. And we love any and all people and are ready to forgive and adopt any evil person; so ones will attack us, for this. Ones want us to be only or mainly about them; but, even in our marriages, I understand, we encourage and even correct one another to love any and all people and not to make each other or our children our love idols. So, Satanic people who do not know how to love will attack us for loving unselfishly and because we do not allow them to use us for what they want.
And we have people who claim to be Christian, but who are desperate to have some one companion to spoil them and give them what they want. So . . . they, too, might criticize us for not going along with them; selfish lovers may reject us because we challenge them to learn how to love any and all people and not only try to have a favorite to use.
So, we are not persecuted only because of a few moral rules. However, we need to have rules for ourselves, so we do not do what is wrong.
1 Thessalonians 3:5-6, to me, means that Paul and Silvanus and Timothy got very concerned about how the Thessalonians were doing. They had ministered for them to get saved, but then they went on to minister elsewhere. But . . . it got in their hair > they couldn't just have "faith" and believe God to take care of the Thessalonians.
Our Father wants us to do things as family, not to just minister and then leave people. So, He had it so Paul and Silvanus and Timothy could not stand being away from the Thessalonians and not know how they were doing. I can see that God wanted them to get all the good news about how well the Thessalonians were being blessed . . . so they could be encouraged about how successful God made their ministry He wanted them to see how there can be results in people who trust in Jesus, and that Christian ministering is not all about evil people just rejecting them and making them suffer and trying to kill them.
They needed the Thessalonians. The apostles had been suffering for Jesus, and now the Thessalonians were under attack. So, they could help and support each other . . . but not only comforting each other, but sharing as family in love In Christianity, we have so much more than only surviving trouble; we have God and all we can enjoy in His own love with each other > Romans 5:5, John 17:22-26.
And we have 1 Thessalonians 3:8 >
"For now we live, if you stand fast in the Lord."
Paul and Silvanus and Timothy are great disciples; yet, they say they live "if" the Thessalonians "stand fast in the Lord."
So, does this actually mean that Paul and Silvanus and Timothy depend on the Thessalonians to stand fast in the Lord, in order for the Paul and Silvanus and Timothy to stay alive in Jesus?? The Bible does say we in Jesus are "members of one another" (Romans 12:5, Ephesians 4:25). So, like how members of a body depend on each other to stay alive, does God have us so we depend on one another to stay alive in Jesus?
"But we all have a free will; others don't decide what happens to us and what we do."
"But if we have trusted in Jesus, we are not on our own, any more. We are no longer in our old free will."
"And it says that while we had our own wills, we were 'dead'. It says how God,
"even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved)," (Ephesians 2:5)
Paul and Silvanus and Timothy say they told the Thessalonians that they would "suffer tribulation". We will suffer for the gospel, for believing in and preaching the death of Jesus for our sins, and preaching His resurrection from the dead. And we love any and all people and are ready to forgive and adopt any evil person; so ones will attack us, for this. Ones want us to be only or mainly about them; but, even in our marriages, I understand, we encourage and even correct one another to love any and all people and not to make each other or our children our love idols. So, Satanic people who do not know how to love will attack us for loving unselfishly and because we do not allow them to use us for what they want.
And we have people who claim to be Christian, but who are desperate to have some one companion to spoil them and give them what they want. So . . . they, too, might criticize us for not going along with them; selfish lovers may reject us because we challenge them to learn how to love any and all people and not only try to have a favorite to use.
So, we are not persecuted only because of a few moral rules. However, we need to have rules for ourselves, so we do not do what is wrong.
1 Thessalonians 3:5-6, to me, means that Paul and Silvanus and Timothy got very concerned about how the Thessalonians were doing. They had ministered for them to get saved, but then they went on to minister elsewhere. But . . . it got in their hair > they couldn't just have "faith" and believe God to take care of the Thessalonians.
Our Father wants us to do things as family, not to just minister and then leave people. So, He had it so Paul and Silvanus and Timothy could not stand being away from the Thessalonians and not know how they were doing. I can see that God wanted them to get all the good news about how well the Thessalonians were being blessed . . . so they could be encouraged about how successful God made their ministry He wanted them to see how there can be results in people who trust in Jesus, and that Christian ministering is not all about evil people just rejecting them and making them suffer and trying to kill them.
They needed the Thessalonians. The apostles had been suffering for Jesus, and now the Thessalonians were under attack. So, they could help and support each other . . . but not only comforting each other, but sharing as family in love In Christianity, we have so much more than only surviving trouble; we have God and all we can enjoy in His own love with each other > Romans 5:5, John 17:22-26.
And we have 1 Thessalonians 3:8 >
"For now we live, if you stand fast in the Lord."
Paul and Silvanus and Timothy are great disciples; yet, they say they live "if" the Thessalonians "stand fast in the Lord."
So, does this actually mean that Paul and Silvanus and Timothy depend on the Thessalonians to stand fast in the Lord, in order for the Paul and Silvanus and Timothy to stay alive in Jesus?? The Bible does say we in Jesus are "members of one another" (Romans 12:5, Ephesians 4:25). So, like how members of a body depend on each other to stay alive, does God have us so we depend on one another to stay alive in Jesus?
"But we all have a free will; others don't decide what happens to us and what we do."
"But if we have trusted in Jesus, we are not on our own, any more. We are no longer in our old free will."
"And it says that while we had our own wills, we were 'dead'. It says how God,
"even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved)," (Ephesians 2:5)
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