Are The Jewish People Still The Chosen People? (video)

You watch to many videos of men void of truth .... these anti-Israel pied pipers are all gas bags of folly

Yes, Israel as a national people are still of the Lord's choosing ..... and ongoing

Why don't you read your Bible and understand that the book is almost entirely about Israel from cover to cover .... and the Lord, His prophets, and apostles were not western white Anglo Saxon cowboys

The Gentiles of the nations are a fluke and only added in by grace .... salvation is offered only to those who will believe in the "Jew" Jesus Christ as Messiah and King

Many of these have come as false pretenders and have hijacked Israel's central position for themselves and their proprietary religious movements

These who come in the name of Christ are deceivers .... when ever you see one who tells you to debunk Israel as the chosen nation above all others .... you are listening to a false teacher [Matthew 24:4-5]

There are many other ways to detect them by their false teaching .... and they are all recorded in your Bible .... find them and employ them

Then you will be able to defend the Lord's Word against them, instead of ending up following the same

Put on the full armor of the Lord and study thy self approved .... this is possible .... an airtight standing

Straightshot said:

You watch to many videos of men void of truth .... these anti-Israel pied pipers are all gas bags of folly Yes, Israel as a national people are still of the Lord's choosing ..... and ongoing

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Yeah, when your religion is centered on Israel rather than Christ, you have to make sure that Israel is there to center on.

And that is, in a nutshell, the difference between Christianity and the New Religion of the Dispensational Futurists. Christianity is, as the name implies, about Christ. Christians believe that Christ is "the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last", and "the Author and Finisher of our Faith". He is God Incarnate, God With Us. It is He Who spoke the universe into being, and it is He Who brought salvation to all people, and not simply one nationality. He is the absolute center of everything. Anything that distracts from our focus on Him is worthless. We believe that all prophecy is centered in Him, and fulfilled by Him, for it is He who spoke through the prophets in the first place. That is what the Church believes.

But DFs who follow the New Religion see it differently. To them, the focus of everything is Israel, and Christ our Lord is simply the means by which Israel will be restored. They see Christ as Israel's Messiah, but not really as God Himself intervening in human history. They believe that He will be the new High Priest, but that in His realm animals must still be slaughtered to atone for sins against God. The see Christ as the Son, but not as God.

Net effect, two distinctly different religions. I believe Christianity to be true, based on Scripture and history. New Religionists believe that their faith is true based on what they believe that Scripture "really means", as opposed to what it says, and they discard any history that doesn't jibe with their created cosmology.

Why don't you read your Bible and understand that the book is almost entirely about Israel from cover to cover

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Have you read the New Testament at all?

.... and the Lord, His prophets, and apostles were not western white Anglo Saxon cowboys

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Well that's a load off my Inscrutable Oriental mind. <Laugh>

The Gentiles of the nations are a fluke and only added in by grace .... salvation is offered only to those who will believe in the "Jew" Jesus Christ as Messiah and King

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So the Jews didn't really need grace, or a Savior, is that right? Belief in Christ is optional for them, eh?

Many of these have come as false pretenders and have hijacked Israel's central position for themselves and their proprietary religious movements

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I'm afraid, old son, that you're gonna find that that centre cannot hold.

"Have you read the New Testament at all?"


The Lord's Word is one book from Genesis to Revelation .... and Israel is His national people whether you like it or not Jip [Isaiah 11:10-16]

Your refusal of this truth will find you out [Matthew 25:31-46]

Straightshot said:

The Lord's Word is one book from Genesis to Revelation .... and Israel is His national people whether you like it or not

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You might want to spend some time in the Old Testament looking at the difference between the Israelites who bowed the knee to Baal and the Israelites of the remnant that remained faithful to God.

You also may want to look in the New Testament at the Pharisees who rejected Jesus as the Son of God as compared to the Apostles and other Israelites of the remnant, who did accept Christ.

We have the same situation today. There are thousands of Jews all over the world who have accepted Jesus as the Messiah.
I know some of them.
We also have millions who have rejected God's Son.

Which of these groups do you claim to be in a right relationship with God?

Do you understand the difference between Israel of the Flesh and Israel of the Promise?


Rom 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.



Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.



Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

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I understand the Lord's Word about Israel BAB ....from Genesis to Revelation

Israel is still the Lord's chosen nation today .... ongoing

Your determination to prove otherwise is bogus

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So much for the Jews as being God's chosen, This too includes today's false Christians who think they believe is Christ, instead they are the children of the demon that lives and has its being through them making them religious, not spiritual.
they follow the word, but they do not perceive.

Straightshot said:

I understand the Lord's Word about Israel BAB ....from Genesis to Revelation

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Your posts indicate the exact opposite.

Israel is still the Lord's chosen nation today .... ongoing

Your determination to prove otherwise is bogus

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Yet you can not demonstrate WHO Israel is Today. All Jews? Some Jews? Jews in the Middle east only? All multi ethnic citizens of the modern day secular Democratic Sate of Israel regardless of ethnicity or religion?
Who exactly is Israel Straight? Name ONE person who is among God's Israel today, if you can. You make the claim but provide no evidence to back it up.

Maybe You say it's Jews, but How can I continue to talk to a person who insists that there are biblical Jews today who exist with no covenant, no known genealogies, no priesthood of Aaron, no Temple, and no observance of Torah as Moses commanded?!?!? Friend, you have fabricated for yourself a new definition of "Jew" that has nothing in common with the bible's understanding of "Jew." Covenants have everything to do with being a Jew, and yet you have some group today that you call Jews who have no covenant religion in the way that the REAL Jews of the bible did.

I hate to break the news to you, but Israel survived *exclusively* in the sect of the Nazarenes. They received with joy their promised New Covenant and obediently rejected all former biases against the non-Abrahamic families of earth so that Genesis 12:3 might finally be attained (Gal 3:7-9/Rom 4:13-18)---via the work of the Jewish Messiah. This sole surviving form of covenant Judaism is known worldwide as Christianity, the Jewish church gone global. The church always was the covenanted Israel, the church continues to be the covenanted Israel. The only difference is that the NEW covenant of Israel enabled Jewish fullness to be bestowed upon gentile people groups (Gen 12:3).

What you do not know ..... is what the Lord knows

He knows all of them .... and always has

You limit His scope of power and authority

He even knows you, and even before you existed .... and what your ultimate fate will be

So your shallow question is bogus and with no substance

You make up some of the biggest fairy tales round

.... and I know why you do it

To protect the man made traditions of your affiliated religious organization that has taught you error .... so you have no choice

Straightshot said:

"Have you read the New Testament at all?"


The Lord's Word is one book from Genesis to Revelation .... and Israel is His national people whether you like it or not Jip [Isaiah 11:10-16]

Your refusal of this truth will find you out [Matthew 25:31-46]

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Christ is the son of God, not God.
"My Father which is in heaven".
"father, forgive them for they know not what they do" ETC

Christ is the son of God, not God.
"My Father which is in heaven".
"father, forgive them for they know not what they do" ETC

Here is your problem:

John
14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?


Jesus Christ is both God and human

1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

1:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

1:8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Straightshot said:

"Have you read the New Testament at all?" The Lord's Word is one book from Genesis to Revelation .... and Israel is His national people whether you like it or not Jip [Isaiah 11:10-16]

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So how do you square the letter to the Hebrews with your belief that Israel is the center of all things? Christ is the center, SS nothing and no one else. To believe otherwise is simple blasphemy.

Your refusal of this truth will find you out [Matthew 25:31-46]

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The idea that Christ is not the center is no truth at all. Kyrie eleison!

Straightshot said:

Christ is the son of God, not God.

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That sentence explains it all. You're not supposed to be posting in this area, you know. It is reserved for Nicene Christians only, which your denial of the Deity of our Lord demonstrates that you are not.

Jipsah said:

So how do you square the letter to the Hebrews with your belief that Israel is the center of all things? Christ is the center, SS nothing and no one else. To believe otherwise is simple blasphemy.

The idea that Christ is not the center is no truth at all. Kyrie eleison!

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Christ has died, Christ has risen, Christ will come again.

madera23 said:

Christ has died, Christ has risen, Christ will come again.

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Christ has come again, He lives in us now.

Straightshot said:

Christ is the son of God, not God.
"My Father which is in heaven".
"father, forgive them for they know not what they do" ETC

Here is your problem:

John
14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?


Jesus Christ is both God and human

1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

1:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

1:8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

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Thank you

Straightshot said:

You watch to many videos of men void of truth .... these anti-Israel pied pipers are all gas bags of folly

Yes, Israel as a national people are still of the Lord's choosing ..... and ongoing

Why don't you read your Bible and understand that the book is almost entirely about Israel from cover to cover .... and the Lord, His prophets, and apostles were not western white Anglo Saxon cowboys

The Gentiles of the nations are a fluke and only added in by grace .... salvation is offered only to those who will believe in the "Jew" Jesus Christ as Messiah and King

Many of these have come as false pretenders and have hijacked Israel's central position for themselves and their proprietary religious movements

These who come in the name of Christ are deceivers .... when ever you see one who tells you to debunk Israel as the chosen nation above all others .... you are listening to a false teacher [Matthew 24:4-5]

There are many other ways to detect them by their false teaching .... and they are all recorded in your Bible .... find them and employ them

Then you will be able to defend the Lord's Word against them, instead of ending up following the same

Put on the full armor of the Lord and study thy self approved .... this is possible .... an airtight standing

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You think Israel consist only of Jew's?

That tiny nation's name actually should have been Judah

We are told to "rightly divide the Word of God", and this includes not only who the book is written by, but also who it is written to. It includes the time that it was written and for what time period it is addressed. The book of James was written between 65-69 A.D., in Jerusalem. This was just prior to the fall of Jerusalem to the Roman general Titus, and the scattering of the Jews from Jerusalem. So it is important to notice that it is addressed not just to the tribes of the House of Judah, and the tribes of Judah and Benjamin, but to all of the tribes, including the ten tribes that made up the "House of Israel". Those ten tribes of the the House of Israel were scattered prior to 722 B.C by the Assyrians, and were not part of the captivity of the House of Judah [called Jews], in Babylon.

The book of James is written to the twelve tribes. These twelve tribes came from the twelve sons of Jacob. Jacob was the grandson of Abraham, through Isaac, and Jacob's name was changed by God to "Israel". While in captivity in Egypt the family of Jacob, or Israel grew into a nation, and all the families of Israel became known as the children of Israel. And in due time, as God had prophesied to Abraham, his family came out of Egypt as a nation. While in the wilderness, Moses had all the families separated into their individual tribes, and established their own individual banners to identify themselves personally. Though each of the tribes was allocated their own lands in the promised land, the tribe of Levi was established as the priestly tribe and was scattered amongst all the other tribes. Yet because of Joseph's birthright, a double portion was given to him, and given to both of Joseph's sons, Ephraim and Manasseh.

These tribes conquered their promised land, and lived under the rule of the Judges from about 1440 B.C. until the monarch was set up by Samuel the prophet, when Samuel anointed Saul as the king. After Saul's rule came king David and then his son Solomon. When Solomon died, the kingdom of the twelve tribes called Israel was split into two separate nations, called "Houses". These houses were the "House of Israel", which was made up of the ten tribes to the north, and the "House of Judah", which at a later time in Babylon became known as "Jews". Each of these two nations had their own line of kings, rule of law, and God dealt with each of them separately.

God used the prophet Hosea to tell the people of the children of Israel that not only would the two nations be separated, and form two nations, but He would divorce one of the nations or houses, and stay married to the other. The example [ensample] was given through the marriage of the prophet Hosea to a daughter of whoredoms named Gomer, and they had three children. The first child was named "Jezreel", and the name of this son was used to tell the kingdom of the "House of Israel" [not the Jews], of the prophecy of God's divorcement to them. This name of Jezreel had two meanings in the Hebrew tongue. The name is prophetic of the "coming judgment and future mercy".


The knowledge of the "House of Judah" is quite common knowledge to most Christians, however the House of Israel is cloudy and unknown to them. The prophet Hosea gives us the knowledge of where these tribes are in the end times, and what they will be known by in Hosea 1:10.

Hosea 1:10"Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, `Ye are not my people,' there it shall be said unto them, `Ye are the sons of the living God.' "

We know that the "House of Judah" is not as the sands of the sea, for most of their people are either sheltered by the United States, or in their tiny nation called "Israel" today. But these ten tribes have grown to a number that we simply can't count. It is in the places that they are located, not in that tiny nation of Israel, but wherever they are, Hosea is telling us exactly what they will be identified as. "Ye are the sons of the living God." The "living God" is Jesus Christ who arose from the dead on the third day and and ascended into Heaven. Those that identify with Christ are called "Christians". Hosea is telling us that the "House of Israel" will call their nations "Christians Nations",

The two houses are seperate as of now,and will not be joined back together until the return of Christ....

Ezekiel 37:15
"The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying,"

Ezekiel 37:16
"Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: Then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:"

By using the two sticks, God is symbolizing the division between Israel, and Judah, or in terms of today; Christian and Jew.

Ezekiel 37:17
"And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand."

Ezekiel 37:18
"And when the children of thy People shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?"

When Ezekiel performs the joining of these two sticks, and is questioned by the Israelites, this is what God instructed him to say.


Ezekiel 37:19
"Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in Mine hand."


They will be joined as one people, and one nation, just as they were in the days of Jacob, Moses, David and Solomon: before the nation split into two nations. This will be a great day, and it will happen when our Lord Jesus Christ returns.


Ezekiel 37:20
"And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes."


This is the symbolic joining together of the whole house, all the tribes. It is to show us that God will and does always keep His word. Though we think we know who we are, in that day there will be no doubt. This time has not happened yet, and when the appointed time comes, God knows where each "kernel of His grain", each of "His own children" is. Not one soul is lost from God.


Ezekiel 37:21
"And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be one, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:"



Ezekiel 37:22
And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:"


Ezekiel 37:23
"Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions:"

Ezekiel 37:27
"My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be My People."



Ezekiel 37:28
"And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when My sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore."


If one can't see the difference between Judah and Israel,how they read and understand scripture is beyond me!!!!

Guess that's why many don't and can't!!!

"You think Israel consist only of Jew's?"


Hardly ..... do not misquote me

I know very well what the Lord's nation of Israel consists of