The Greater Exodus than isnt taught, but the Rapture is.

The scriptures that you quote above pertain to a scattered national Israel that will take place during the future time of Jacob's trouble, the 70th week decreed for Israel which is still pending [Daniel 9:24-27]

The Lord is going to restore the kingdom to Israel .... His coming millennial kingdom upon the earth [Jeremiah 30; Isaiah 11; 27:12-13; Ezekiel 36; Joel 2; 3; Micah 4:1-3; 5; Zechariah 12; 13:8-9; 14; Matthew 24:29-31; Acts 1:6; Romans 11:25-36]

The Lord's call for His true ecclesia of both Jew and Gentile is another matter .... and this event will occur just before the 70th week decreed for Israel [the same tribulation period of His time of trial and judgment upon the earth] [Psalms 2; Revelation 3:10; 6:12-17]

The next prophesied event is the Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath. A worldwide disaster, but mainly affecting the Middle East region:
The Day is coming; When the wicked and godless will vanish and all who love evil will be cut down. Isaiah 29:20-21, Isaiah 66:15-17, Psalms 83, Revlation 6:12-17
Then: In that Day; the deaf will hear the words of scripture and the blinded will see through the impenetrable darkness. Isaiah 29:18 & 24 The lowly will once again rejoice in the Lord, as the Holy Land is regenerated into a fruitful garden Land. Ezekiel 36:8, Amos 9:13-15, Isaiah 35

That Day of fire and tempest, Malachi 4:1-3, is not a Day for all who believe in the Lord to panic or be frightened, for Righteousness will rise among them, as the Lord heals the wounds [of spiritual and physical exile, Ezekiel 37] inflicted upon His people. Isaiah 30:25-28, Zephaniah 3:8-10, Revelation 7:9-17

This is what we look forward to, our great hope for the future:
Ezekiel 34:11-16 Now, [that is: after the Day of the Lord’s wrath against the nations] I, Myself will search for and gather My people, I will rescue them for wherever they are scattered after that Day of cloud and darkness. I shall lead them out of the nations, Micah 2:12-13, and bring them home to their own country. I shall make a Covenant with them to ensure peace and prosperity and they will have good leaders. Ezekiel 34:23-31, Jeremiah 30:21, Hosea 1:11
They will be a light to the nations. Isaiah 49:8 There is no removal to heaven for the Lord's people, be they descendants of Jacob or grafted in believers.

After they are settled, Jeremiah 30 & 31, the Lord will summon Gog to come down from the north and invade the Land recently restored from ruin, whose people are gathered from many nations, Revelation 7:9, and are now settled and prosperous. Ezekiel 38:8 This is in order for the Lord, through His people, to show Himself great and holy to the nations. Ezekiel 38:16

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Vinsight, please read Ezekiel 34:11-31, Isaiah 66:15-21, Jeremiah 31:1-40, Micah 7:7-20, Zephaniah 3:8-20
There are many other prophesies as well, that tell us how God will bring His judgement onto all the earth, then gather His righteous people into all of the Holy Land.
THIS is what will happen, there is NO rapture to heaven. Such an idea is nowhere to be found in the Bible and simply contradicts God's plan to have a people who will at last be a light to the nations. They prepare the world for the coming Kingdom of Jesus.
Your posts display very confused and erroneous views and you seem to take no notice of other posters scriptural truths.

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SAAN said:

Doesnt the Greater Exodus have to occur before any Pre-Trib or Post -Tri Rapture?

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1. First of all it is not a "Greater Exodus" but a gathering up of Jews from across the world to bring them to Israel.

2. No, it does NOT occur before the Rapture but after the Second Coming of Christ.

The Great Second Exodus of all the Lord's righteous people, that is: all true believers in God and who accept the redemption offered by Jesus is the next prophesied event after the Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath. They will live in all of the Holy land in peace and prosperity, preparing the world for the glorious Return of Jesus for His Millennial reign.

Zechariah 9:14-15The Lord will appear over His people and His weapon of judgement will flash like lightning. His war shofar will make a great sound, accompanied by a terrible whirlwind.The Lord will protect His people and they will exult in His deliverance.

Zechariah 10:1-12 For now, your false gods and idols give empty promises, dreams and delusions. So My people are left to wander about, like sheep and distressed for the lack of a proper shepherd.
The Lord’s anger burns against the leaders of His people, they will fall on the Day of His wrath.

For the Lord will care for His flock, He will strengthen the House of Judah and save the House of Joseph. From Judah will come the leaders that will be My battleaxe and they will rout the enemy, because I am with them. The warriors of Ephraim will exult and rejoice in the Lord’s victory and in their deliverance. The families of the Lord’s people will see and be glad with what the Lord has done.
The pride of the nations will be brought low, but Israel’s strength will be in the Lord, they will march proudly in His Name.
He will whistle and call them in. His redeemed people, though now in far off lands, they will answer the call. They will return to their heritage, bringing their children with them. The Lord will bring them home from every nation around the world and He will lead them into Gilead and Lebanon until there is no more room for them all. They will pass through rivers that will dry up for them to cross.
The Lord will give rain in due season, grass in the fields and fruit abundantly. On the Day the Lord takes action, He will save His flock. For they are like precious gems in His crown, they will sparkle all over His Land. What wealth is theirs! What beauty! Good food and drink will give health and strength to the young men and women. Ref: REB, CJB.

This prophecy reiterates the great promise of God to His righteous people, whether they are true descendants of Jacob or grafted in Israelites. How the Lord will protect them on His great Day of judgement and punishment of the nations, as He brings down the pride of His enemies, but the strength of all true believers is in the Lord. He will appear to them and lead them into the Holy Land. 2 Thessalonians 1:10 This is not the Return in glory, to come later.

All of that area given so long ago to Abraham, will be burnt, devastated and depopulated by the Lord’s Day of wrath – lightning flashes, great noise, earthquakes and powerful storms - as described here and in other prophesies as a coronal mass ejection sunstrike, that will affect all of the world, but primarily the Middle east region. Zephaniah 2:4, Ezekiel 30:1-5

Ezekiel 36:8 But you mountains of Israel, put forth your branches and bear fruit, for the homecoming of My people is near.
This and many other prophesies say how the Lord will send rain and the holy Land will quickly regenerate into a Land of plenty and prosperity, ready for the great Second Exodus of the Israelites. They will live there as the rest of the end time prophesies unfold and it is them who say: Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord!
Be ready for the whistle!

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Why do you do this?

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and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant

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Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.


Mat 26:28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. (NKJV)


Heb 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.


Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.


Heb_11:16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.


We are going to inherit more than a piece of land in this sin-cursed world.



Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.


Isa 65:18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.


Isa 65:19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.


Our inheritance is the New Jerusalem in the New Heavens and the New Earth.
If you are looking for a future land promise, this is it.

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Jeremiah and Ezekiel both speak of the greater Exodus to come and you will never heard any endtime preacher speak about this, just Jesus can come at any moment and the Rapture could occur after this very prayer.

Jeremiah 16:14-15 (NKJV)
God Will Restore Israel
14 “Therefore behold, the days are coming,” says the Lord, “that it shall no more be said, ‘The Lord lives who brought up the children of Israel from the land of Egypt,’ 15 but, ‘The Lord lives who brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north and from all the lands where He had driven them.’ For I will bring them back into their land which I gave to their fathers.

Ezekiel 20:32-38 (NKJV)
32 What you have in your mind shall never be, when you say, ‘We will be like the Gentiles, like the families in other countries, serving wood and stone.’
God Will Restore Israel
33 “As I live,” says the Lord God, “surely with a mighty hand, with an outstretched arm, and with fury poured out, I will rule over you. 34 I will bring you out from the peoples and gather you out of the countries where you are scattered, with a mighty hand, with an outstretched arm, and with fury poured out. 35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the peoples, and there I will plead My case with you face to face. 36 Just as I pleaded My case with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so I will plead My case with you,” says the Lord God.
37 “I will make you pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant; 38 I will purge the rebels from among you, and those who transgress against Me; I will bring them out of the country where they dwell, but they shall not enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the Lord.



Doesnt the Greater Exodus have to occur before any Pre-Trib or Post -Tri Rapture?

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Why? So us a verse to prove this theory.

keras said:

The next prophesied event is the Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath. A worldwide disaster, but mainly affecting the Middle East region:
The Day is coming; When the wicked and godless will vanish and all who love evil will be cut down. Isaiah 29:20-21, Isaiah 66:15-17, Psalms 83, Revlation 6:12-17
Then: In that Day; the deaf will hear the words of scripture and the blinded will see through the impenetrable darkness. Isaiah 29:18 & 24 The lowly will once again rejoice in the Lord, as the Holy Land is regenerated into a fruitful garden Land. Ezekiel 36:8, Amos 9:13-15, Isaiah 35

That Day of fire and tempest, Malachi 4:1-3, is not a Day for all who believe in the Lord to panic or be frightened, for Righteousness will rise among them, as the Lord heals the wounds [of spiritual and physical exile, Ezekiel 37] inflicted upon His people. Isaiah 30:25-28, Zephaniah 3:8-10, Revelation 7:9-17

This is what we look forward to, our great hope for the future:
Ezekiel 34:11-16 Now, [that is: after the Day of the Lord’s wrath against the nations] I, Myself will search for and gather My people, I will rescue them for wherever they are scattered after that Day of cloud and darkness. I shall lead them out of the nations, Micah 2:12-13, and bring them home to their own country. I shall make a Covenant with them to ensure peace and prosperity and they will have good leaders. Ezekiel 34:23-31, Jeremiah 30:21, Hosea 1:11
They will be a light to the nations. Isaiah 49:8 There is no removal to heaven for the Lord's people, be they descendants of Jacob or grafted in believers.

After they are settled, Jeremiah 30 & 31, the Lord will summon Gog to come down from the north and invade the Land recently restored from ruin, whose people are gathered from many nations, Revelation 7:9, and are now settled and prosperous. Ezekiel 38:8 This is in order for the Lord, through His people, to show Himself great and holy to the nations. Ezekiel 38:16

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I disagree. I believe the next prophesied event will be Paul's pretrib rapture.

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I disagree. I believe the next prophesied event will be Paul's pretrib rapture.

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Unfortunately for your belief, Paul never actually says anyone will be rapture removed to heaven.

This is what is actually prophesied to happen:
Isaiah 62:1-2a For Zion’s sake, I shall not keep silent – until her victory shines forth, like the sunrise, her victory like a blazing torch. The nations will see your victory and their rulers your glory.
Isaiah prophesies for the sake of the Land of Israel. There will be a great victory, ‘likea blazing torch’ - a CME sunstrike over the attacking enemies. Isaiah 30:25-28, Isaiah 66:15-16 The world will see it and be amazed. Jeremiah 33:6-16, 2 Peter 3:7

Isaiah 62:2b-5 You will receive a new name, the Lord Himself will give it. You will be like a glorious crown in His hand. No more are you forsaken and your Land desolate. You will be called ‘Hephzibah’ and the Land, ‘Beulah’. For the Lord will delight in you and it will be like a marriage, He will rejoice over you as a bridegroom over his bride. [Hephzibah = My delight is in her. Beulah = married. Isaiah 49:18
The Lord’s people, righteous Israel, gathered and settled into their Land, the Land of Greater Israel, then called Beulah. Wonderful promises to them of fertility and wealth. They will live in justice, peace and security, as He intended people to be. Jeremiah 3:22]

Isaiah 62:6-7 Jerusalem, on your walls, I have posted watchmen, they will call out: You that invoke the Name of the Lord, do not rest and give no rest to the Lord until He makes Jerusalem a praise throughout the world.
Those who tell about these things are ‘watchmen’, [Hebrew natzar, that is: Nazarenes] so it is all Christian believers who must not rest or let the Lord forget His people and His Land. Keep praying for our redemption and restoration. Ezekiel 36:24-28, Isaiah 52:7-9

Isaiah 62:8-9 The Lord has sworn to never again allow foreigners to take the produce of the Land, but you who give praises to Him will eat the grain and drink the wine, within My sacred courts.
After the great clearance in the Middle East, only His righteous people will be allowed to live there, those who love the Lord and obey Him. Isaiah 66:20-21, Ezekiel 20:38

Isaiah 62:10-11 Pass through the gates – clear a road for My people. Build a highway, remove the rocks and make a signal to guide the people. Proclaim to the ends of the earth, say to the offspring of Zion: See your deliverance comes, His reward is with Him and He will make recompense.
The great gathering of the Lord’s people – the second Exodus, will happen in the same manner as the first Exodus. Leaders [shepherds] will arise to guide the flock, in the spirit of Moses and Elijah. Jeremiah 3:14-15, Isaiah 58:11, Isaiah 43:5-7, Micah 4:6, Isaiah 49:9-13, Isaiah 51:3, Zechariah 8:11-12, Isaiah 40:1-5, Ezekiel 11:17

Isaiah 62:12 They will be called ‘The Holy people, the Redeemed of Y’hovah’ and Jerusalem will be called ‘sought after, the City no longer forsaken’.

The Lord’s people, will live in the Holy Land of Beulah, as He created them to live, being a ‘light to the nations’ and witnesses to His salvation. Isaiah 43:6 They will send out 144,000 missionaries to every people group, to preach the good news of the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Isaiah 66:19, 1 Peter 2:9-10, Acts 2:39, Jeremiah 31:23-34

Joel 2:23-27 People of Zion, rejoice – your God will recompense you for the years that others have ravaged your Land. You will again have plenty in your own Land. Then you will know that I am present in Israel and that I and no other am your God.
This will happen before the Return of Jesus for His Millennial reign