God's Judgement against Baghdad

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 The message of the Lord against Baghdad:

Tell all the world that Baghdad will be destroyed, her God will be utterly disgraced.

Go up, O my warriors, against the land of Iraq and against the people of Baghdad.  Yes, march against Baghdad, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Annihilate them, as I have commanded you.  Let there be a shout of battle in the land, a shout of great destruction.

For the Lord has opened his armory and brought out weapons to explode his wrath upon his enemies.  The terror that befalls Baghdad will be the work of the Lord God.  Yes, come against her from distant lands; break open her graineries; knock down her walls and houses into heaps of ruins and utterly destroy her; let nothing be left.


Send out a call for archers to come; surround the city so that none can escape.  Do unto her as she has done to others, for she has haughtily defied the Lord, the Holy One of Israel.   Her young men shall fall in the streets and die; her warriors will all be killed.   For see, I am against you, O people so proud; and now your day has come.  Land of Pride you will stumble and fall and noone shall raise you up.
 

 
 

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Yesterday at 11:08 PM Faithful1 said this in Post #1

 The message of the Lord against Baghdad:

Tell all the world that Baghdad will be destroyed, her God will be utterly disgraced.

Go up, O my warriors, against the land of Iraq and against the people of Baghdad.  Yes, march against Baghdad, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Annihilate them, as I have commanded you.  Let there be a shout of battle in the land, a shout of great destruction.

For the Lord has opened his armory and brought out weapons to explode his wrath upon his enemies.  The terror that befalls Baghdad will be the work of the Lord God.  Yes, come against her from distant lands; break open her graineries; knock down her walls and houses into heaps of ruins and utterly destroy her; let nothing be left.


Send out a call for archers to come; surround the city so that none can escape.  Do unto her as she has done to others, for she has haughtily defied the Lord, the Holy One of Israel.   Her young men shall fall in the streets and die; her warriors will all be killed.   For see, I am against you, O people so proud; and now your day has come.  Land of Pride you will stumble and fall and noone shall raise you up.
 

 

ummm...okay.  That was weird.
 
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Esther 8:11

Wherein the king granted the Jews which [were] in every city to gather themselves together, and to stand for their life, to destroy, to slay, and to cause to perish, all the power of the people and province that would assault them, [both] little ones and women, and [to take] the spoil of them for a prey



The language of the OP sounds similar to the passage above, perhaps an OT pasage "updated" with Iraq
 
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Today at 12:08 AM Faithful1 said this in Post #1 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=682944#post682944)

 The message of the Lord against Baghdad:

Tell all the world that Baghdad will be destroyed, her God will be utterly disgraced.

Go up, O my warriors, against the land of Iraq and against the people of Baghdad.  Yes, march against Baghdad, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Annihilate them, as I have commanded you.  Let there be a shout of battle in the land, a shout of great destruction.

For the Lord has opened his armory and brought out weapons to explode his wrath upon his enemies.  The terror that befalls Baghdad will be the work of the Lord God.  Yes, come against her from distant lands; break open her graineries; knock down her walls and houses into heaps of ruins and utterly destroy her; let nothing be left.


Send out a call for archers to come; surround the city so that none can escape.  Do unto her as she has done to others, for she has haughtily defied the Lord, the Holy One of Israel.   Her young men shall fall in the streets and die; her warriors will all be killed.   For see, I am against you, O people so proud; and now your day has come.  Land of Pride you will stumble and fall and noone shall raise you up.
 

 


Today at 04:36 AM cenimo said this in Post #5 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=683328#post683328)

perhaps an OT pasage "updated" with Iraq






JER 50:21 Go up against the land of Merathaim, even against it, and against the inhabitants of Pekod: waste and utterly destroy after them, saith the LORD, and do according to all that I have commanded thee.

JER 50:22 A sound of battle is in the land, and of great destruction.

JER 50:23 How is the hammer of the whole earth cut asunder and broken! how is Babylon become a desolation among the nations!

JER 50:24 I have laid a snare for thee, and thou art also taken, O Babylon, and thou wast not aware: thou art found, and also caught, because thou hast striven against the LORD.

JER 50:25 The LORD hath opened his armoury, and hath brought forth the weapons of his indignation: for this is the work of the Lord GOD of hosts in the land of the Chaldeans.

JER 50:26 Come against her from the utmost border, open her storehouses: cast her up as heaps, and destroy her utterly: let nothing of her be left.

JER 50:27 Slay all her bullocks; let them go down to the slaughter: woe unto them! for their day is come, the time of their visitation.

JER 50:28 The voice of them that flee and escape out of the land of Babylon, to declare in Zion the vengeance of the LORD our God, the vengeance of his temple.

JER 50:29 Call together the archers against Babylon: all ye that bend the bow, camp against it round about; let none thereof escape: recompense her according to her work; according to all that she hath done, do unto her: for she hath been proud against the LORD, against the Holy One of Israel.

JER 50:30 Therefore shall her young men fall in the streets, and all her men of war shall be cut off in that day, saith the LORD.

JER 50:31 Behold, I am against thee, O thou most proud, saith the Lord GOD of hosts: for thy day is come, the time that I will visit thee.

JER 50:32 And the most proud shall stumble and fall, and none shall raise him up: and I will kindle a fire in his cities, and it shall devour all round about him.



Jeremiah 50-John Gill's Exposition
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Following-up Gunnysgt post from Jeremiah 50 with Chapter 51.
It's long but very interesting:
Jeremiah 51
51:1 Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will raise up against Babylon, and against them that dwell in the midst of them that rise up against me, a destroying wind;
2 And will send unto Babylon fanners, that shall fan her, and shall empty her land: for in the day of trouble they shall be against her round about.
3 Against him that bendeth let the archer bend his bow, and against him that lifteth himself up in his brigandine: and spare ye not her young men; destroy ye utterly all her host.
4 Thus the slain shall fall in the land of the Chaldeans, and they that are thrust through in her streets.
5 For Israel hath not been forsaken, nor Judah of his God, of the LORD of hosts; though their land was filled with sin against the Holy One of Israel.
6 Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this is the time of the LORD's vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence.
7 Babylon hath been a golden cup in the LORD's hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad.
8 Babylon is suddenly fallen and destroyed: howl for her; take balm for her pain, if so she may be healed.
9 We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed: forsake her, and let us go every one into his own country: for her judgment reacheth unto heaven, and is lifted up even to the skies.
10 The LORD hath brought forth our righteousness: come, and let us declare in Zion the work of the LORD our God.
11 Make bright the arrows; gather the shields: the LORD hath raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes: for his device is against Babylon, to destroy it; because it is the vengeance of the LORD, the vengeance of his temple.
12 Set up the standard upon the walls of Babylon, make the watch strong, set up the watchmen, prepare the ambushes: for the LORD hath both devised and done that which he spake against the inhabitants of Babylon.
13 O thou that dwellest upon many waters, abundant in treasures, thine end is come, and the measure of thy covetousness.
14 The LORD of hosts hath sworn by himself, saying, Surely I will fill thee with men, as with caterpillers; and they shall lift up a shout against thee.
15 He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heaven by his understanding.
16 When he uttereth his voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens; and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth: he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures.
17 Every man is brutish by his knowledge; every founder is confounded by the graven image: for his molten image is falsehood, and there is no breath in them.
18 They are vanity, the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish.
19 The portion of Jacob is not like them; for he is the former of all things: and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: the LORD of hosts is his name.
20 Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms;
21 And with thee will I break in pieces the horse and his rider; and with thee will I break in pieces the chariot and his rider;
22 With thee also will I break in pieces man and woman; and with thee will I break in pieces old and young; and with thee will I break in pieces the young man and the maid;
23 I will also break in pieces with thee the shepherd and his flock; and with thee will I break in pieces the husbandman and his yoke of oxen; and with thee will I break in pieces captains and rulers.
24 And I will render unto Babylon and to all the inhabitants of Chaldea all their evil that they have done in Zion in your sight, saith the LORD.
25 Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain, saith the LORD, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain.
26 And they shall not take of thee a stone for a corner, nor a stone for foundations; but thou shalt be desolate for ever, saith the LORD.
27 Set ye up a standard in the land, blow the trumpet among the nations, prepare the nations against her, call together against her the kingdoms of Ararat, Minni, and Ashchenaz; appoint a captain against her; cause the horses to come up as the rough caterpillers.
28 Prepare against her the nations with the kings of the Medes, the captains thereof, and all the rulers thereof, and all the land of his dominion.
29 And the land shall tremble and sorrow: for every purpose of the LORD shall be performed against Babylon, to make the land of Babylon a desolation without an inhabitant.
30 The mighty men of Babylon have forborn to fight, they have remained in their holds: their might hath failed; they became as women: they have burned her dwellingplaces; her bars are broken.
31 One post shall run to meet another, and one messenger to meet another, to shew the king of Babylon that his city is taken at one end,
32 And that the passages are stopped, and the reeds they have burned with fire, and the men of war are affrighted.
33 For thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; The daughter of Babylon is like a threshingfloor, it is time to thresh her: yet a little while, and the time of her harvest shall come.
34 Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon hath devoured me, he hath crushed me, he hath made me an empty vessel, he hath swallowed me up like a dragon, he hath filled his belly with my delicates, he hath cast me out.
35 The violence done to me and to my flesh be upon Babylon, shall the inhabitant of Zion say; and my blood upon the inhabitants of Chaldea, shall Jerusalem say.
36 Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will plead thy cause, and take vengeance for thee; and I will dry up her sea, and make her springs dry.
37 And Babylon shall become heaps, a dwellingplace for dragons, an astonishment, and an hissing, without an inhabitant.
38 They shall roar together like lions: they shall yell as lion's whelps.
39 In their heat I will make their feasts, and I will make them drunken, that they may rejoice, and sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the LORD.
40 I will bring them down like lambs to the slaughter, like rams with he goats.
41 How is Sheshach taken! and how is the praise of the whole earth surprised! how is Babylon become an astonishment among the nations!
42 The sea is come up upon Babylon: she is covered with the multitude of the waves thereof.
43 Her cities are a desolation, a dry land, and a wilderness, a land wherein no man dwelleth, neither doth any son of man pass thereby.
44 And I will punish Bel in Babylon, and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he hath swallowed up: and the nations shall not flow together any more unto him: yea, the wall of Babylon shall fall.
45 My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD.
46 And lest your heart faint, and ye fear for the rumour that shall be heard in the land; a rumour shall both come one year, and after that in another year shall come a rumour, and violence in the land, ruler against ruler.
47 Therefore, behold, the days come, that I will do judgment upon the graven images of Babylon: and her whole land shall be confounded, and all her slain shall fall in the midst of her.
48 Then the heaven and the earth, and all that is therein, shall sing for Babylon: for the spoilers shall come unto her from the north, saith the LORD.
49 As Babylon hath caused the slain of Israel to fall, so at Babylon shall fall the slain of all the earth.
50 Ye that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember the LORD afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind.
51 We are confounded, because we have heard reproach: shame hath covered our faces: for strangers are come into the sanctuaries of the LORD's house.
52 Wherefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will do judgment upon her graven images: and through all her land the wounded shall groan.
53 Though Babylon should mount up to heaven, and though she should fortify the height of her strength, yet from me shall spoilers come unto her, saith the LORD.
54 A sound of a cry cometh from Babylon, and great destruction from the land of the Chaldeans:
55 Because the LORD hath spoiled Babylon, and destroyed out of her the great voice; when her waves do roar like great waters, a noise of their voice is uttered:
56 Because the spoiler is come upon her, even upon Babylon, and her mighty men are taken, every one of their bows is broken: for the LORD God of recompences shall surely requite.
57 And I will make drunk her princes, and her wise men, her captains, and her rulers, and her mighty men: and they shall sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the King, whose name is the LORD of hosts.
58 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; The broad walls of Babylon shall be utterly broken, and her high gates shall be burned with fire; and the people shall labour in vain, and the folk in the fire, and they shall be weary.
59 The word which Jeremiah the prophet commanded Seraiah the son of Neriah, the son of Maaseiah, when he went with Zedekiah the king of Judah into Babylon in the fourth year of his reign. And this Seraiah was a quiet prince.
60 So Jeremiah wrote in a book all the evil that should come upon Babylon, even all these words that are written against Babylon.
61 And Jeremiah said to Seraiah, When thou comest to Babylon, and shalt see, and shalt read all these words;
62 Then shalt thou say, O LORD, thou hast spoken against this place, to cut it off, that none shall remain in it, neither man nor beast, but that it shall be desolate for ever.
63 And it shall be, when thou hast made an end of reading this book, that thou shalt bind a stone to it, and cast it into the midst of Euphrates:
64 And thou shalt say, Thus shall Babylon sink, and shall not rise from the evil that I will bring upon her: and they shall be weary. Thus far are the words of Jeremiah.
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Today at 11:19 AM Stormy said this in Post #13 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=683597#post683597)

So what exactly are you all saying?

That our war with Iraq is a prophecy? You really think that God is behind the killing that we will do?



Matthew 24:3-14.

MT 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

MT 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

MT 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

MT 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

MT 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

MT 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

MT 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

MT 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

MT 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

MT 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

MT 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

MT 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

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:( If you believe that God's answer to our problems with one another is killing... then we have not received the same message.

I do think that we will have a war. But I do not think that it pleases God.

Still, God uses all things for the good of those who love him.

Man's self destruction will one day make way for God's promise of a new Earth.
 
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Yesterday at 11:08 PM Faithful1 said this in Post #1

 The message of the Lord against Baghdad:

Tell all the world that Baghdad will be destroyed, her God will be utterly disgraced.

Go up, O my warriors, against the land of Iraq and against the people of Baghdad.  Yes, march against Baghdad, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Annihilate them, as I have commanded you.  Let there be a shout of battle in the land, a shout of great destruction.

For the Lord has opened his armory and brought out weapons to explode his wrath upon his enemies.  The terror that befalls Baghdad will be the work of the Lord God.  Yes, come against her from distant lands; break open her graineries; knock down her walls and houses into heaps of ruins and utterly destroy her; let nothing be left.


Send out a call for archers to come; surround the city so that none can escape.  Do unto her as she has done to others, for she has haughtily defied the Lord, the Holy One of Israel.   Her young men shall fall in the streets and die; her warriors will all be killed.   For see, I am against you, O people so proud; and now your day has come.  Land of Pride you will stumble and fall and noone shall raise you up.
 

 


Somehow I doubt the Pagan, Muslim, Buddhist and Hindu soldiers in todays military would appreciate being labeled as servents or warriors of the Judeo-Christian God.  I know I find the concept pretty offensive.
 
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A Cougar...

"I find that offensive" is the lamest statment that exists today.... no news source, media programming people, or individual can possibly check with everyone who may read somthing whether they find it offesnive or not...  nd to expect that is ridiculous...

and what of the Christians in the military that would find your comments offensive? only suppossed to work one way?  That's the flaw with this "offended" stuff.

cold hard facts, we could take all from the groups you mentioned, station them in Greenland or somewhere for the war, and the result would be quite negligible, more than likely not even noticeable.
 
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Today at 12:14 PM cenimo said this in Post #17

A Cougar...

"I find that offensive" is the lamest statment that exists today.... no news source, media programming people, or individual can possibly check with everyone who may read somthing whether they find it offesnive or not...

and what of the Christians in the military that would find your comments offensive? onlly suppossed to work one way? That's the flaw with this "offended" stuff.

cold hard facts, we could take all from the groups you mentioned, station them in Greenland or somewhere for the war, and the result would be quite negligible, more than likely not even noticeable.


The point is that the United States military is not Christian it is secular.  It is not a Christian military anymore than it is a white or male military.  I have served in the United States Army for 20 years and am currently serving in Fort Hood.  I am proud to serve this great country, however I do not and would not ever follow the Judeo-Christian God.  The reasons for this I keep to myself as many on this board might find them offensive and I have no desire to offend anyone.  As for the Christians in todays military I assume most know and understand that they do not serve in a "Christian" military and that many who serve with them are not followers of the Judeo-Christian God.     



 
 
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didn't know you were a Vet, I owe you an apology, but the "offended" stuff ovbviously strikes a nerve with me....the viet Vets were and will be offended many times over the rest of our lives and no oine cared....now, tell someone their team got shut out and they get "offended" over the mention of it...

during the Gulf War (Gulf War I ?), while our forces were in essence very low pay mervenairies for Kuwait, our chaplians couldn't wear their crosses because the host nation followed Arabic law....
why does this stuff always go one way only?
 
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