The Sixt Th Seal Events and the emergence of the One World Government.

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Can you explain the mechanism about how a super massive CME will cause the great earthquake of the 6 Th seal ?
Personally I think that the great earthquake will be caused by God.While that the "stars" falling on the earth will be an enormous meteor shower caused by a thick cloud of space dust colliding with the Earth.
The facts about Coronal Mass Ejections are known and scientists are concerned that another big one like the Carrington event of 1856, will destroy our modern infrastructure. But the CME that is prophesied to hit the earth will be unprecedented and will literally fulfil all the vivid prophesies of the Day of the Lord's wrath.
A CME will cause tectonic plate shift, from the microwave penetration of the earths crust. Deuteronomy 32:22, Amos 9:5, Haggai 2:6
God will cause this, He will use His storehouse, Deuteronomy 32:34-35, to bring doom upon His enemies.
Yes, it will be 'a thick cloud of space dust', you don't say where this comes from, but a CME explains it. Look at; ecology.com/earths greatest threat- the sun and its CME's
I believe the 'stars' falling like ripe figs will, in fact, be all our hundreds of satellites, pushed back to earth by the pressure wave of this CME. There may be a meteor shower as well.
Re; the sky rolled up like a scroll, a big CME will do this to the magnetosphere and atmosphere facing the sun at the time of the strike. Isaiah 24:18-19, Psalms 144:5

RE; the Zionist International bankers, the Illuminati, the Bilderberg group, etc, they will all be history after the Day of the Lord's wrath. Isaiah 66:15-17, Isaiah 29:5-6, Micah 5:9
 
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You said:

"Oh, I can't believe "they "would do that!" .... meaning that those you accuse are referring to the conspirators that you claim are involved in the conspiracy theory

I want to know who "they" is

Who are the conspirators that you claim are in your conspiracy theory ruse?

Riberra, just gave you a direct quote from the Congressional Record spoken by James Warburg in 1950.
However, you just ignored it.


“We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent.”
- Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, 1950

Warburg's Brother Paul was one of those who met at Jekyll Island, Georgia in order to come up with a plan for implementing the Federal Reserve System, which now controls our nation's currency. It is neither Federal, nor is it a reserve of anything.

The book "Creature from Jekyll Island" details the implementation of the plan.
After the Federal Reserve was put in place in 1913, it only took the conspirators through both inflation and deflation of the money supply, 16 years to crash the U.S. economy in 1929.
Your money is nothing but a number in a computer, handed out as pieces of paper with green ink.


Warburg and his brother were clearly part of the "they" conspirators. However, as previously stated the plan is clearly laid out in God's Word. It started with Satan's lie in the Garden.
Satan is going to implement his globalist system at some point in the future.
Some of the most powerful people in the world today are working 24/7 to accomplish this goal.
Their favorite method is to either create or allow an emergency situation and then come up with a solution that will promote their agenda. Do a little research on the IMF and look at what is happening in Greece today.

Christian writer Gary Kah does an excellent job of laying out the plan and those involved in his book, "En Route to Global Occupation". I loaned the book to my pastor one time and he latter did a sermon on Daniel's Image and the pretrib rapture. He said we did not need to worry about the Globalist System, because we would be watching it from heaven for 7 years, after the Pretrib Rapture.

At this point in time, you are part of the "they" by denying that such a plan even exists.

The best proof is direct quotes from those like Warburg who are promoting the idea. Since it comes directly from the Congressional Record, no one can deny it.



Former Government of Indiana Official- Gary Kah on the Globalist Plan


 
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That's what I thought .... just another conspiracy rant .... not biblical, not true

And by the way I ignore nothing ... I just do not believe everything I hear

.... and you have a very nasty demeanor toward those who do do not agree with you

Here is why .... because your confidence in what you present is shaken by others with a more solid and believable make up

There could be no other reason
 
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That's what I thought .... just another conspiracy rant .... not biblical, not true

In your pretribber mind... "We cannot be moving toward global governance now, because we are still here."

And you continue to promote the unscriptural
2 Peoples/ 2 Purposes/ 2 Kingdoms/ 2 ways of Salvation (Grace and later Law Keeping)/ Scripture "Rightly Divided" into 2 Parts/ 2 Second Comings of Christ doctrine, plus the Soul-Sleep doctrine which you have added.

You insist what you are promoting is the truth, while ignoring what is happening during our time, even though we have the testimony of Warburg before Congress.

“We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent.”- Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, 1950


The CFR was created for only one reason.
It is the goal plainly spoken above by James Warburg.


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James Warburg is a gas bag conspiracy buff

Is he going to run his NWO?

You should read the Lord's Word to know what is coming upon the whole world .... not Warberg .... the guy has no Idea what is actually going to happen

What is coming is WD not NWO

The stuff about a secret conspiracy to take over the earth is a total joke .... all of it

You pick some strange people to follow
 
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The facts about Coronal Mass Ejections are known and scientists are concerned that another big one like the Carrington event of 1856, will destroy our modern infrastructure.
I am well aware of this ...that is why NASA have send two satellites The "stereo mission" to watch the Sun in live feed. If they detect that there is a danger that the earth is to be hit directly by a super massive CME there are plans to shut down power supply ...to avoid an over charge causing a black out , like the one who have happened in the Province of Quebec in 1989 ....
March 1989 geomagnetic storm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1989_geomagnetic_storm -

"The March 1989 geomagnetic storm was a severe geomagnetic storm that caused the collapse of Hydro-Québec's electricity transmission system."

But the CME that is prophesied to hit the earth will be unprecedented and will literally fulfil all the vivid prophesies of the Day of the Lord's wrath.
A CME will cause tectonic plate shift, from the microwave penetration of the earths crust.Deuteronomy 32:22, Amos 9:5, Haggai 2:6
God will cause this, He will use His storehouse, Deuteronomy 32:34-35, to bring doom upon His enemies.
Can you show us a scientific publication mentioning that a CME can produce a micro wave effect when it hit the earth ?
Yes, it will be 'a thick cloud of space dust', you don't say where this comes from,
From Space... as well as the heavier stuff mentioned in Revelation 8:8-11 Revelation 16:21

8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

Revelation 16:21

21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.


but a CME explains it. Look at; ecology.com/earths greatest threat- the sun and its CME's
A CME is not composed of dust but charged particles called plasma.

RE; the Zionist International bankers, the Illuminati, the Bilderberg group, etc, they will all be history after the Day of the Lord's wrath -caused by the monstrous CME "happening" at the 6th Seal-. Isaiah 66:15-17, Isaiah 29:5-6, Micah 5:9
Lets play your scenario...if this monstrous CME frying everything happen tomorrow how the Christians will be protected ?
 
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You should read the Lord's Word to know what is coming upon the whole world .... not Warberg .... the guy has no Idea what is actually going to happen

What is coming is WD not NWO

The stuff about a secret conspiracy to take over the earth is a total joke .... all of it
First you must know that those guys does not care about God's plan for the End Time when they started working their plan about 200 years ago..They have only one God -mammon- and money.
Do you know the history behind the Creation of the State of Israel in 1948 ?

-The Zionists International Bankers.

http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-leaders-rothschild.html

Excerpts:
The History of the House of RothschildIncluding the History of Rothschild War Loans to Instigate British Wars

by Andrew Hitchcock

Rothschild_house.JPG
The Rothschilds have been in control of the world for a very long time, their tentacles reaching into many aspects of our daily lives, as is documented in the following timeline. However, before you jump to the timeline, please read this invaluable introduction which will tell you who the Rothschilds are as oppose to who they claim to be.
The Rothschilds claim that they are Jewish, when in fact they are Khazars. They are from a country called Khazaria, which occupied the land locked between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea which is now predominantly occupied by Georgia. The reason the Rothschilds claim to be Jewish is that the Khazars under the instruction of the King, converted to the Jewish faith in 740 A.D., but of course that did not include converting their Asiatic Mongolian genes to the genes of the Jewish people.

You will find that approximately 90% of people in the world today who call themselves Jews are actually Khazars, or as they like to be known, Ashkenazi Jews. These people knowingly lie to the world with their claims that the land of Israel is theirs by birthright, when in actual fact their real homeland is over 800 miles away in Georgia.

So, next time you hear an Israeli Prime Minister bleating about the so-called persecution of the Jews, consider this, every Prime Minister of Israel has been an Ashkenazi Jew. Therefore when all these Prime Ministers have curried favour with the West for their re-establishment of a Jewish homeland, they have knowingly and deliberately lied to you, as they were never from that region, and they well know it, because it is they who call themselves Ashkenazi Jews.

The Book of Revelation, Chapter 2, Verse 9, states the following which would appear to be about these Ashkenazi Jews:

"I know thy works, and tribulation and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." The most wealthy bloodline in the world bar none and the leader of the Ashkenazi Jews in the world today is the Rothschild family. As you will see in the timeline, the Rothschilds have obtained this position through lies, manipulation and murder. Their bloodline also extends into the Royal Families of Europe, and the following family names: Astor; Bundy; Collins; duPont; Freeman; Kennedy; Morgan; Oppenheimer; Rockefeller; Sassoon; Schiff; Taft; and Van Duyn.
However, these are not the only bloodlines to worry about. You are probably aware of the centuries old pratice undertaken by many Ashkenazi Jews whereby they would change their name, in order for them to appear part of the dominant race of the country in which they lived, so as they could obtain influential positions in that country, which they would then exploit to serve their real masters elsewhere. There is plenty of evidence to prove the Rothschilds continue that deceptive tradition.

Furthermore the Rothschilds are known to sire many children secretly that they can put into positions of power when required. This started with the very first man who took the name Rothschild, who had a secret sixth son. Finally, remember the world is a diverse place, I could if I wanted change my name to Rothschild, or any of the names listed above, and that would not make me part of this family anymore than converting to Judaism in 740 A.D. will make these Ashkenazis Jewish.

Please, therefore, do not automatically assume someone you see with the name Rothschild or any of the names listed above are part of the Rothschild criminal network. Furthermore and most importantly, the majority of Ashkenazi Jews are innocent and not part of this network. Check the facts out for yourself first, this article is designed to inform people who the enemy is, not single out people of a particular race or people with a particular surname, who may have nothing to do with this Rothschild criminal network.

More:
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-leaders-rothschild.html
 
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Can you show us a scientific publication mentioning that a CME can produce a micro wave effect when it hit the earth ?
No, because a CME of the magnitude prophesied has never happened yet. Joel 2:2b
There are two main effects of a CME; first the initial light flash that we will see within 8 minutes of the eruption. It consists of the entire spectrum from long light waves to microwaves. It will be an Electro Magnetic Pulse, that will destroy all our electric systems; power supply, communications and transport. The Bible tells us this EMP will penetrate to the depths of the mountains.... Deuteronomy 32:22
The second effect is the ejected mass of superheated hydrogen plasma, that travels out at from 2 million mph up to 5 mmph. The one the Lord will instigate will travel at 3.5 mmph, as that will take exactly 24 hours to arrive. So the strike at mid day Middle eastern time, Zephaniah 2:4 is preceded by a Day of darkness as this approaching mass obscures the sun. Zephaniah 1:14-18 Many prophesies say how people will be terrified as they see their doom approaching. Jeremiah 6:24-26, Ezekiel 7:17, Ezekiel 21:5-7

Lets play your scenario...if this monstrous CME frying everything happen tomorrow how the Christians will be protected ?
You know, Riberra, we aren't too far apart in our beliefs, but a response like this just shows your lack of Bible knowledge and your unpleasant objection to having your pet theory questioned.
Your quoting of prophesies pertaining to the Great Tribulation Trumpet and Bowl punishments, to support your ideas, are things that will happen a long time after the Sixth Seal.
Also you fail to read properly what I actually show in the Prophetic Word. The Lord will send a CME, that is clear from Isaiah 30:26 and Malachi 4:1, it will do exactly what the Lord wants it to achieve, Isaiah 55:11 and all those who maintain their faith in the Lord, calling out to His Name, will be protected and saved. Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21
 
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No, because a CME of the magnitude prophesied has never happened yet. Joel 2:2b
There are two main effects of a CME; first the initial light flash that we will see within 8 minutes of the eruption. It consists of the entire spectrum from long light waves to microwaves. It will be an Electro Magnetic Pulse, that will destroy all our electric systems; power supply, communications and transport. The Bible tells us this EMP will penetrate to the depths of the mountains.... Deuteronomy 32:22
The second effect is the ejected mass of superheated hydrogen plasma, that travels out at from 2 million mph up to 5 mmph. The one the Lord will instigate will travel at 3.5 mmph, as that will take exactly 24 hours to arrive. So the strike at mid day Middle eastern time, Zephaniah 2:4 is preceded by a Day of darkness as this approaching mass obscures the sun. Zephaniah 1:14-18 Many prophesies say how people will be terrified as they see their doom approaching. Jeremiah 6:24-26, Ezekiel 7:17, Ezekiel 21:5-7
Do you notice that the great earthquake of the 6 Th Seal happen BEFORE the celestial events !
So your theory that the great earthquake of the 6 Th seal is caused by the CME fail.My theory is that the 6 Th seal great earthquake is caused by God .

Revelation 6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.


You know, Riberra, we aren't too far apart in our beliefs, but a response like this just shows your lack of Bible knowledge and your unpleasant objection to having your pet theory questioned.
When they shall say peace and safety then sudden destruction will come upon them.The claiming of peace and safety will come after WW3 ....the One World Government planned more than 200 years ago by the Illuminatis ...Then ,after some years, the 6 Th seal sudden destruction will come upon them....

Your quoting of prophesies pertaining to the Great Tribulation Trumpet and Bowl punishments, to support your ideas, are things that will happen a long time after the Sixth Seal.
The Trumpet and Bowl punishments will happen in the years following the 6 Th seal great earthquake....you are the one adding a time gap of 20 years after the 6 th seal destruction and the first trumpet of Revelation 8.

But the CME that is prophesied to hit the earth will be unprecedented and will literally fulfil all the vivid prophesies of the Day of the Lord's wrath.
A CME will cause tectonic plate shift, from the microwave penetration of the earths crust.
Riberra said:
Lets play your scenario...if this monstrous CME frying everything happen tomorrow how the Christians will be protected ?
You know, Riberra, we aren't too far apart in our beliefs, but a response like this just shows your lack of Bible knowledge and your unpleasant objection to having your pet theory questioned.
Do you know what happen when water molecules are heated by microwaves ....think about what happen to a piece of meat in a micro-wave oven... it cook .We humans as other animals are composed with 80% of water if your "monstrous" sorry/ unprecedented CME producing "microwave penetration..." happen at the 6 Th seal everything alive will cook like if it was in a gigantic microwave oven... Remember that we will be changed into our immortal body only upon Jesus Second Coming after the great tribulation.
 
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You know, Riberra, we aren't too far apart in our beliefs, but a response like this just shows your lack of Bible knowledge and your unpleasant objection to having your pet theory questioned.

Be nice.

I know someone else who was not happy when a science teacher challenged the basic physics involved in his "pet theory".

He did not appreciate someone who pointed out that the moon does not contain the chemicals necessary for a thermite reaction, since this was a part of his "theory".

I am not going to call any names, but his name started with a "k".

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I know someone else who was not happy when a science teacher challenged the basic physics involved in his "pet theory".
He did not appreciate someone who pointed out that the moon does not contain the chemicals necessary for a thermite reaction, since this was a part of his "theory".
I didn't accept your science teachers refutation of how the moon will shine 7 times brighter, Isaiah 30:26 and blood red. Revelation 6:12b, Joel 2:31, because it is what will happen. We only need to find out how the Lord will do it.
I carefully read several studies about the lunar regolith. The average composition of moon dust is: SiO2 =42%, Al2O3=20%, FeO = 12%, CaO = 11%, plus 8 other minor elements and all except 1, are combined with Oxygen.
The hit onto the moon of a multi-billion ton mass of superheated hydrogen from the prophesied CME that the Lord will instigate, will undeniably cause a chemical reaction of great heat and light, resulting in those elements losing their Oxygen component, forming H2O and pure elements.
We, on earth will see this happen for a maximum of only about 2 hours or so, depending on the position of the moon in its orbit, before the CME mass hits us. This gives a clue as to when the Lord will take action. It will have to be on or near the new moon period.
 
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When they shall say peace and safety then sudden destruction will come upon them.The claiming of peace and safety will come after WW3 ....the One World Government planned more than 200 years ago by the Illuminatis ...Then ,after some years, the 6 Th seal sudden destruction will come upon them....
Have you missed what Ezekiel 7:14 says? Many other prophesies also tell how the Lord will arise and destroy the attackers of Israel, when their 'foot slips'- Deuteronomy 32:34-35, that is: make the mistake of attacking the Holy Land.

When they shall say peace and safety then sudden destruction will come upon them.The claiming of peace and safety will come after WW3 ....the One World Government planned more than 200 years ago by the Illuminatis ...Then ,after some years, the 6 Th seal sudden destruction will come upon them....
Yes, the fulfilment of 1 Thessalonians 5:3 happens at the Sixth Seal. It is only after that worldwide disaster that a OWG will be formed. A WW3 is not prophesied or necessary for an OWG, the supposedly natural CME as the prophets describe will be sufficient to make the nations give up their sovereignty.


Do you know what happen when water molecules are heated by microwaves ....think about what happen to a piece of meat in a micro-wave oven... it cook .We humans as other animals are composed with 80% of water if your "monstrous" sorry/ unprecedented CME producing "microwave penetration..." happen at the 6 Th seal everything alive will cook like if it was in a gigantic microwave oven...
Firstly, we who believe in the Lord and keep His Commandments have His promises of protection. Isaiah 43:2, Zephaniah 2:3, Jeremiah 17:7-8 and many more.
Then, we are told to get under cover, when the Lord comes from His dwelling place to punish the world for it's sins....Isaiah 26:20-21

Remember that we will be changed into our immortal body only upon Jesus Second Coming after the great tribulation.
Only those who have been killed for the sake of their witness to Jesus, Revelation 20:4, will receive resurrection at the beginning of the Millennium. Those who have kept their faith and are still alive will meet Him in the air, 1 Thessalonians 4:17 as He descends to earth.
 
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The total folly of this discussion is the failure to realize the 6th seal is the destruction of the temple as Matthew 24:29-31:
29 “But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
30 And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory.
31 And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.


The failure is not recognizing the language is that of Isaiah 13:8-11 where God is prophesying the destruction of the Babylonian Empire through Isaiah, and using the Medes to do so! Daniel 5:25-30 is where Isaiah's prophecy is fulfilled.

The language is that of Hebrew poetry. To fail to make that connection is why one would think this is a future event, when it actually happened to Israel/Jerusalem in 70AD.

This is not going to happen again! Christ is gathering His elect right now! The next stop is the resurrection at the last day!

You don't have to accept it...but that what's going to happen. Josephus has document these events historically, and to disregard it is plain wrong.
 
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I didn't accept your science teachers refutation of how the moon will shine 7 times brighter, Isaiah 30:26 and blood red. Revelation 6:12b, Joel 2:31, because it is what will happen. We only need to find out how the Lord will do it.

I never said it will not happen.
I only said it cannot be a thermite reaction, because you do not have the reactants.

The SiO2 is quartz, which is what most sand is made of. It is a very stable compound.

The Al2O3 is what rubies are made of. It is also a very stable compound.

Both of these materials normally act as a refractory, which can withstand very high temperatures without undergoing a chemical reaction.

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Firstly, we who believe in the Lord and keep His Commandments have His promises of protection. Isaiah 43:2, Zephaniah 2:3, Jeremiah 17:7-8 and many more.
Then, we are told to get under cover, when the Lord comes from His dwelling place to punish the world for it's sins....Isaiah 26:20-21
You have 2 contradictions in the same phrase.
Don't you find contradicting to say that we have the promise of God's protection whatever happen if this is related to God's wrath ...and at the same time saying Then, we are told to get under cover when the Lord comes from His dwelling place to punish the world for it's sins...?
Question :
If your unprecedented CME producing "microwave penetration" hit the earth tomorrow within a delay of 1 hour where are you going to go -under cover- for protection ?

Only those who have been killed for the sake of their witness to Jesus, Revelation 20:4, will receive resurrection at the beginning of the Millennium. Those who have kept their faith and are still alive will meet Him in the air, 1 Thessalonians 4:17 as He descends to earth.
Those that will be alive and remain will be changed at the same time that the resurrection mentioned in Revelation 20:4... upon Jesus Second Coming after the Tribulation...Jesus will descend from Heaven to establish His Kingdom on the Earth after the battle of Armageddon.
1 Thessalonians 4:14-18
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

King James Version (KJV)
 
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Don't you guys get sick of randomly quoting the Bible back and forth at each other? Seems to be all eschatology consists of
Do you believe that you will be rapture before the Tribulation ?
If so, you are probably totally programmed with the magical thinking - Why worry, those who believe in the pretrib rapture are supposed not to be there when this will happen ...-
 
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I never said it will not happen.
I only said it cannot be a thermite reaction, because you do not have the reactants.
The SiO2 is quartz, which is what most sand is made of. It is a very stable compound.
The Al2O3 is what rubies are made of. It is also a very stable compound.

Both of these materials normally act as a refractory, which can withstand very high temperatures without undergoing a chemical reaction.
Ok, maybe it won't be a thermite reaction, just the hit will probably be enough to produce the bright blood red effect.
However, would 3,800 Kelvin: 6,300f, be sufficient? [google: CME temperature]
 
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