The Femininity of God

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Nowhere in scripture is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit referred to as a she.

That would seem to be true.

We have Genesis 1:27-28 clearly saying that Adam and Eve, together, are the image of God. But the Bible refers to all Three Persons as Masculine.

Apparently humanity was not yet able to handle the full truth about the Femininity of the Second Person. The doctrine of the Trinity itself was not explicitly revealed in the Bible--"One God in Three Persons"--and I think understanding that was difficult enough.

The idea that Jesus is emphatically Feminine in Divinity and masculine in humanity was too much of a paradox for us to comprehend.
 
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To compare God to things human, either male or female, is to abase him to a lower level.

13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?

14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you. -Exodus 3
 
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ASHR I AM that I AM.

Man came by the image of God in relationship as a male and not by gender as a male.

Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:


So out of God came man in God's masculine relationship image, when he breathed in him the breath of life.

Genesis 2:22
And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.


Out of man came a women made in the image of man, from the femininity in terms of relationship of his image.

So man is made in the image of God in terms of masculine relationship and women came out of man as a feminine relationship of man.

Notice a women biologically has only X genes that she got from Adam and man has both the X and the Y genes that decides whether a child is born a male or female.

So in this respect man by the masculine relationship came from God and women by the feminine relationship came by man. Man has genes for both genders, the famine side of man so to speak.

This by no means is an argument to say man is better then women in the sight of God, rather it points to the fact that man came from God and in his masculine image and women came from man in the image of the feminine side of man who has both X and Y genes.

The intention is relationship based as God declares himself from a muscular Father relationship however at the same time he is genderless. Women in terms of femininity received it from man and therefore the husband and wife Union is brought up in the earthly realm and earthly living and not from the point of God's triune essence as the muscular Father.
 
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This female business is only good for the duration of planet earth...

25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

This husband and wife Union is an earthly Union and not a heavenly Union within God's triune infinite being.
 
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Not proof. I want actual proof. I want a proposal to change authorized, non-trial liturgy, change to the canons, etc. Unless that occurs, the citation is invalid.

It is proof. The only thing i claimed was that I read 2 articles....and I gave you links to 2 articles.

I never said it was a definate. I never said it was under formal consideration. I said "may" address the issue.
 
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To compare God to things human, either male or female, is to abase him to a lower level.

13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?

14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you. -Exodus 3

It is Genesis 1:27-28 which compare Adam and Eve to the Trinity.
 
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Amen to that!

The Three Persons are revealed as masculine because in relation to us, they all emphasize giving and expressiveness (masculinity).

But Genesis 1:27-28 reveals plainly that Adam and Eve (and their children) are the image of the Trinity.

Where would femininity (receptivity) come from if not from God?
 
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This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. - 1 John 1:5

If E = mc2 then we can divide and conclude that...

Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2)

And there are three varieties...

Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma
Mental E/c2 - Our brains output is a result of E/c2
Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)
---c2 - Kind a like red, blue, green, and yellow, only in spiritual terms.

If E = mc2 then one can divide and say that m = E/c2. Therefore all of creation came into existence with the Fathers great Energy and Light... In which there are three varieties...

Natural E/c2... The sun is E/c2 in the form of plasma... The Earth is cooled E/c2.
Mental E/c2... Our ability to think comes from E/c2
Spiritual E/c2... Energy (Motivation, Love) / c2 (Faith, Hope, Charity, Joy)

Lets take the opposite of all that...

The opposite of m = E/c2 is n = z/d

Nothing (n) - That which outer space is made of between the celestial objects.
Absolute Zero (z) - The coldest it can get!
Darkness (d) - That which is devoid of light.

Natural z/d - Nothing! Space! Null and Void!
Mental z/d - Nothing!
Spiritual... z (Laziness, Apathy, Hate) / d (Fear, Despair, Greed, Sorrow).

It is my conviction that there are three spiritual extremes…

Spiritual light – Love, warmth, faith, hope, charity joy, goodness, peace…
Spiritual darkness – Hate, cold, fear, depression, sorrow, greed, evil, war…
The Flesh – Ego, perverted sex, filth, witchcraft, anger, strife, divisions, mysticism… Where does that fit? It is neither light or darkness!

I have heard that the flesh and the devil are so akin that it is hard to discern between the two of them. There is a path I believe to perfect spiritual light, or Caritas (Latin for pure love)... Things that cannot be taught for virtue is not knowledge!

1. Hope - All things begin with a hope
2. Faith - Motivation is a child of faith and hope
3. Charis - Grace - A powerful neighbor of caritas
4. Dynamos - Greek for virtue and motivation
5. Eucharisteo - Much grace... Gratitude
6. Charisomai - Well favored - A lucky kind of feeling
7. Euchrestos - Greek for profitable
8. Chairo - Greek for cheer - "Cheerio mate!"
9. Chara - Greek for joy
10. Chrestotes - An 'Aunt Bee' kind of Goodness
11. Charisma - Heavenly Graciousness
12. Chrisma - Heavenly Anointing - The Holy Grail!

God is E/c2 and out of the E/c2 became creation. The chemical properties of God are energy and light. He is the Father of it and with it he made male and female. Male and female sometimes show the properties of God, but not all the time.
 
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God is Spirit and does not have a gender - neither male nor female.

But the Bible also teaches that God is personal; God, loves, speaks, hears, instructs, rebukes, guides and wants a relationship with those he created.
We cannot call a personal God "it", and it would be clumsy to use either "he/she" or "God" all the time.
I am guessing that people started to say "he" very early on because it was a male dominated society and sons inherited the estate and any wealth - that is why the NT talks about believers becoming sons of God, but that doesn't mean that women are exempt.

There are female characteristics attributed to God - the giver of new life, who "chose to give us birth" according to James, and is the One who nurtures us. But God is genderless and I don't believe would be offended by being called "she".
 
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God is Spirit and does not have a gender - neither male nor female.

But the Bible also teaches that God is personal; God, loves, speaks, hears, instructs, rebukes, guides and wants a relationship with those he created.
We cannot call a personal God "it", and it would be clumsy to use either "he/she" or "God" all the time.
I am guessing that people started to say "he" very early on because it was a male dominated society and sons inherited the estate and any wealth - that is why the NT talks about believers becoming sons of God, but that doesn't mean that women are exempt.

There are female characteristics attributed to God - the giver of new life, who "chose to give us birth" according to James, and is the One who nurtures us. But God is genderless and I don't believe would be offended by being called "she".

ABBA, Father. She would require calling out mother. Hmmmmm!
 
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ABBA, Father. She would require calling out mother. Hmmmmm!

The first Person is the Father. I think it would be fine to call the Second Person "Mother", since the Bible indicates that Eve--the mother of the living--represents the Second Person. Gen 1:27-28

My favorite medieval writer, Dame Julian of Norwich, called Christ "Mother".
 
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The first Person is the Father. I think it would be fine to call the Second Person "Mother", since the Bible indicates that Eve--the mother of the living--represents the Second Person. Gen 1:27-28

My favorite medieval writer, Dame Julian of Norwich, called Christ "Mother".

Hi,
Yes, to conjecture all sorts of things seem possible. When I have dealt personally with all three of them and individually from time to time, none of them were of the female gender.
LOVE,
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Hi,
Yes, to conjecture all sorts of things seem possible. When I have dealt personally with all three of them and individually from time to time, none of them were of the female gender.
LOVE,
...Mary., .... .

That is because you are one of tens of millions of blessed sons/daughters of Christ Jesus, whom he has revealed himself to.

John 14:12
Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them."


The Holy Father be with you and those whom he has revealed himself to.
 
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Hi,
Yes, to conjecture all sorts of things seem possible. When I have dealt personally with all three of them and individually from time to time, none of them were of the female gender.
LOVE,
...Mary., .... .

Would you say, then, that Femininity is not an attribute of God?
 
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Would you say, then, that Femininity is not an attribute of God?

Hi,

In a book called The Bible, a person of the female gender is talking. She and I have also interfaced. She is very beautiful.

In the section called Proverbs 8, it is there she talks. In Proverbs 9:1, her gender is beyond question. She talks of her relationship with God, but in very feminine ways which may be missed by males. I hope not. I also think every female will know that she really likes God, and He her.

She has no body, and in relationship is God's gal-pal, with a twist. She is also, the very fist thing God ever made, in the content and action called Creation.

Her name is Wisdom, and she is not to be confused with the attribute wisdom, nor The Holy Spirit, nor Jesus. She is none of those things, rather she is like God's gal pal. Ask a womam to read that, if you are male, or merely a male thinking woman. It should be clear.

So, if you conjecture, if you are asking me to conjecture, then No, God is not feminine, rather He is Male, and knows just what He likes in a female, so He made one that way.

LOVE,
...Mary., .... .
 
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That is because you are one of tens of millions of blessed sons/daughters of Christ Jesus, whom he has revealed himself to.

John 14:12
Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them."


The Holy Father be with you and those whom he has revealed himself to.

Hi,
I am so happy that you say, and hopefully KNOW, that there are tens of millions that have been treated to The Word Of God, in this way.
When this sort of thing first started happening to me, it was John 14:12, or the same words some place else, in the Book, that calmed me.
With LOVE, for you, thank you for these kind words, or for Whomever, asked you to put these here. They are love, to me, from you and your source of this.
LOVE,
...Mary., .... .
 
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Hi,
I am so happy that you say, and hopefully KNOW, that there are tens of millions that have been treated to The Word Of God, in this way.
When this sort of thing first started happening to me, it was John 14:12, or the same words some place else, in the Book, that calmed me.
With LOVE, for you, thank you for these kind words, or for Whomever, asked you to put these here. They are love, to me, from you and your source of this.
LOVE,
...Mary., .... .

Peace and the love of Christ Jesus be with you and also all who love him and have come to know him.
 
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