The Femininity of God

patricius79 · Jun 17, 2015

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Here in Genesis chapter One we read that God is more than one person--"let us make man in our image", and that His image is "male and female".

So why do we see God only as Masculine?

Gregory Thompson · Jun 18, 2015

In the same way that Eve was "taken out of" Adam, the Holy Spirit (wisdom) was "taken out of" God before he did the works of old.
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The Father and The Son are paired as the Bride and the Spirit are paired in revelation.
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If you're looking for a role model, it's probably the Holy Spirit.

patricius79 · Jun 18, 2015

Michael Collum said:
In the same way that Eve was "taken out of" Adam, the Holy Spirit (wisdom) was "taken out of" God before he did the works of old.
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The Father and The Son are paired as the Bride and the Spirit are paired in revelation.
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If you're looking for a role model, it's probably the Holy Spirit.

Yes, the Holy Spirit is emphatically feminine because the Spirit receives Her being from the Father and Son. But the Spirit is also emphatically masculine, because the Spirit is the expression of love between the Father and Son.

I know that is very mysterious and hard to conceptualize, but that is normal when discussing the mystery of the Trinity.

The second Person--the "Son"--is emphatically Feminine, because She receives Her being from the First Person.

Eve is thus the image of the Second Person of God.

In other Words, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit can also be called the Husband, the Wife, and the Child.

Thus, the family is the image of the Trinity , as Genesis 1 suggests.

Cappadocious · Jun 18, 2015

We think God is male, but we don't think that God is just masculine.

Berean777 · Jun 18, 2015

Berean777 · Jun 18, 2015

PaladinValer · Jun 20, 2015

God is beyond sex and gender.

He is "He" because according to the Law, men inherit. However, by grace, women remain women and become coinheritors alongside men in full equality. That is because of Genesis 1 and because of the Gospel of Christ as proclaimed in the New Testament.

patricius79 · Jun 20, 2015

PaladinValer said:
God is beyond sex and gender.

He is "He" because according to the Law, men inherit. However, by grace, women remain women and become coinheritors alongside men in full equality. That is because of Genesis 1 and because of the Gospel of Christ as proclaimed in the New Testament.

I agree that God, as God, is not biologically male or female. God is Pure Spirit. But God is not beyond Femininity and Masculinity, which are transcendentals of being.

Rather, the Trinity is revealed by the human family. The husband represents the First Person of God. The wife represents the Second Person of God, who receives Her Being from the First Person. The children, which are male and female, represent the Holy Spirit.

PaladinValer · Jun 20, 2015

patricius79 said:
I agree that God, as God, is not biologically male or female. God is Pure Spirit. But God is not beyond Femininity and Masculinity, which are transcendentals of being.

Rather, the Trinity is revealed by the human family. The husband represents the First Person of God. The wife represents the Second Person of God, who receives Her Being from the Father. The children, which are male and female, represent the Holy Spirit.

Um, no.

patricius79 · Jun 20, 2015

Michael Collum said:
In the same way that Eve was "taken out of" Adam, the Holy Spirit (wisdom) was "taken out of" God before he did the works of old.
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The Father and The Son are paired as the Bride and the Spirit are paired in revelation.
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If you're looking for a role model, it's probably the Holy Spirit.

Yes, and the Second Person of God receives Her Being from the First Person, and thus is mirrored by Eve.

concretecamper · Jun 20, 2015

I've read the C of E may address this issue soon by throwing out God being Father. Admittedly I haven't seen much on this (only read 2 articles)....maybe our Anglican posters can fill us in with what is going on.

Berean777 · Jun 20, 2015

patricius79 said:
I agree that God, as God, is not biologically male or female. God is Pure Spirit. But God is not beyond Femininity and Masculinity, which are transcendentals of being.

Rather, the Trinity is revealed by the human family. The husband represents the First Person of God. The wife represents the Second Person of God, who receives Her Being from the First Person. The children, which are male and female, represent the Holy Spirit.

There is no relationship of a women declared within God's trinity. God is Infinite Holy Spirit and is genderless as you stated and in agreement with scripture John 4:24. God has revealed himself in the Old Testament as the Father and in the New Testament as the Son.

The Holy Ghost came on Pentecost. So who is, by relationship the Father of the Old covenant and the Son of the new covenant?

John 14:23
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

The WE is the plurality of the Father and the Son by relationship coming on the day of Pentecost to make their dwelling with the believers. John 14 is in context to the giving of the Holy Spirit.

The only women that is mentioned that is said to have seed that hold the testimony of Jesus is the church, who is also called the bride of Christ.

Revelation 12:17
Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring--those who keep God's commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus

AphroditeGoneAwry · Jun 20, 2015

This thread has got my stymied.

AB is the Hebrew word for father. And I don't remember it being used in my limited studies for the names of the Lord God. It's only used for Abram and Abraham. ALHYM is Almighty God. AL is Almighty. YHWH is I am; YHWH asher YHWH is I AM WHO I AM. The other names for God as well. AB is used when men are mentioned in the Bible. But for God there is no gender specification. And in the Hebrew I don't recall pronouns like we use. There is 'they' and 'I' and 'you' and 'these' but no his and her and him and she. ASHR (asher) is an adjective which actually means any gender and number, unspecified.

I can't believe I have not noticed that before. I am so used to thinking in gender-specific terms I just filled in gender when I translated.

Berean777 · Jun 20, 2015

AphroditeGoneAwry said:
This thread has got my stymied.

AB is the Hebrew word for father. And I don't remember it being used in my limited studies for the names of the Lord God. It's only used for Abram and Abraham. ALHYM is Almighty God. AL is Almighty. YHWH is I am; YHWH asher YHWH is I AM WHO I AM. The other names for God as well. AB is used when men are mentioned in the Bible. But for God there is no gender specification. And in the Hebrew I don't recall pronouns like we use. There is 'they' and 'I' and 'you' and 'these' but no his and her and him and she. ASHR (asher) is an adjective which actually means any gender and number, unspecified.

I can't believe I have not noticed that before. I am so used to thinking in gender-specific terms I just filled in gender when I translated.

I agree this is what I have come across as well and scripture testifies of no gender specification. Father yes by relationship within the Old Testament context and Son yes by relationship within the New Testament context. The Father and Son are the ONE GOD, who is genderless.

patricius79 · Jun 20, 2015

AphroditeGoneAwry said:
This thread has got my stymied.

AB is the Hebrew word for father. And I don't remember it being used in my limited studies for the names of the Lord God. It's only used for Abram and Abraham. ALHYM is Almighty God. AL is Almighty. YHWH is I am; YHWH asher YHWH is I AM WHO I AM. The other names for God as well. AB is used when men are mentioned in the Bible. But for God there is no gender specification. And in the Hebrew I don't recall pronouns like we use. There is 'they' and 'I' and 'you' and 'these' but no his and her and him and she. ASHR (asher) is an adjective which actually means any gender and number, unspecified.

I can't believe I have not noticed that before. I am so used to thinking in gender-specific terms I just filled in gender when I translated.

Hi AphroditeGoneAwry,

So I take it you would have a problem with me seeing the First Person of God as the Husband, and the Second Person as Wife?

Berean777 · Jun 20, 2015

patricius79 said:
Hi AphroditeGoneAwry,

So I take it you would have a problem with me seeing the First Person of God as the Husband, and the Second Person as Wife?

So who is the second person wife if the first person is her husband where she has recieved her being from. What do you mean received her being from?

patricius79 · Jun 20, 2015

Berean777 said:
So who is the second person wife if the first person is her husband where she has recieved her being from. What do you mean received her being from?

The Second Person (the Wife) receives Her being from the First Person (The Husband), just as Eve was taken out of Adam.

In traditional dogma--which is correct--the Son is Eternally Begotten by the Father. Thus the Son receives His Being from The Father, just as Eve is taken out of Adam.

AphroditeGoneAwry · Jun 20, 2015

patricius79 said:
Hi AphroditeGoneAwry,

So I take it you would have a problem with me seeing the First Person of God as the Husband, and the Second Person as Wife?

I am not sure what you mean.

Berean777 · Jun 20, 2015

I have come across many testimonies from all denominations that were revealed by revelation from the Holy Spirit that revealed the Father figure and never a mother/wife figure.

Romans 8:15
The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Holy Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by HIM we cry, "Abba, Father

By Him, who is Holy Spirit we are crying out ABBA meaning Father. How could the Holy Spirit be the wife or feminine if we are crying out to Him Father.

And again.....

Galatians 4:6
And because we are his children, God has sent the Holy Spirit of his Son into our hearts, prompting us to call out, "Abba, Father."

I don't see the faithful seeing by revelation a mother/wife figure and I certainly don't find scripture instructing us to call out mother.

bottomofsandal · Jun 20, 2015

patricius79 said:
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Here in Genesis chapter One we read that God is more than one person--"let us make man in our image", and that His image is "male and female".

So why do we see God only as Masculine?

Since God created woman, is it imperative He possess a feminine substance or essence ?

Being God, can't He created femininity without possessing any female characteristics ?

In glory men and women will be like the angels which is...

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