Can a Christian please help me?

Lafemme said:

Well, God is male and gave power of the world to males therefore, the leader is obviously superior.

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God is neither man nor woman but is a spirit. He has the traits of both.

Masculine traits are more important and valuable if feminine traits were then God would have presented himself as female and the bible always represents femininity as an undesirable trait.

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There are many verses about the virtues of womanhood. As an example read Proverbs 31: 10

There's a verse that mocks a people by saying women rule over them. God only consorts with men but Jesus was different.

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Jesus is God.
In the beginning was the WORD the Word was with God and the Word was God.
and the Word became flesh (Jesus)

Abraham, Moses etc were spoken with by God directly not women.

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Let's not forget Mary. She was honored above all others in that she was chosen to be the mother of Jesus.

But that's besides the point. I just can't understand why women can't get a break

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That would seem to be only your distorted perception.

Lafemme said:

i have a serious problem and I don't know what is going to happen to me when I die. I believe in God and Jesus but as a woman I believe God created women to be a helper aka a sexual and manual slave. God didn't care about women but created them to solve the problem that Adam needed to reproduce. God gave the world to men, Adam names all the animals and then even names eve like a piece of cattle. Eve was suffering in misery even before the fall. Women had periods and childbirth was somewhat painful even before she ate the apple. Now I knowledge all this and accept it but what I can't accept that since I was created to give glory to men why do I have to worship God? Why do I have to go to the same hell as a man even though God did nothing for me but make me a slave? My biggest concern is since there is no marriage or childbirth why can't I go back to the rib from which I was taken no heaven or hell. I think it's cruel for God to force me to continue to exist if my purpose was to be a slave to man. Basically I don't want to go to heaven or hell when I die just go back to the rib I was taken. If I pray can God do this for me or will I go to hell for even asking?

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In the first place, no one goes to hell for asking anything, ever. In the second place, where did you get the information that Eve had periods and childbirth were painful?

Lafemme said:

So what will happen to me now?

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When you die, you go to heaven.

Lafemme said:

Well, God is male and gave power of the world to males therefore, the leader is obviously superior.

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Were slave owners obviously superior to their slaves? Do you think that God gave them that power?

You got some nice first world problems there.

EDIT: This is just banter. I hope OP finds solution to her problem.

Lafemme said:

i have a serious problem and I don't know what is going to happen to me when I die. I believe in God and Jesus but as a woman I believe God created women to be a helper aka a sexual and manual slave. God didn't care about women but created them to solve the problem that Adam needed to reproduce. God gave the world to men, Adam names all the animals and then even names eve like a piece of cattle. Eve was suffering in misery even before the fall. Women had periods and childbirth was somewhat painful even before she ate the apple. Now I knowledge all this and accept it but what I can't accept that since I was created to give glory to men why do I have to worship God? Why do I have to go to the same hell as a man even though God did nothing for me but make me a slave? My biggest concern is since there is no marriage or childbirth why can't I go back to the rib from which I was taken no heaven or hell. I think it's cruel for God to force me to continue to exist if my purpose was to be a slave to man. Basically I don't want to go to heaven or hell when I die just go back to the rib I was taken. If I pray can God do this for me or will I go to hell for even asking?

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It sounds like, maybe between the lines, that you are speaking out of a background where, as a female, you were treated like an inferior. Maybe whoever/s did that tried to justify it with the Bible.

Just a side noted about periods and having babies, well men have usually been the ones who have had to face the horrors of war, too.

Let's look at some of what the Bible says about women. First, "There is neither Greek nor Jew. There is neither male nor female." Who was the first person Messiah appeared to after He was ressurected, the one who ran to tell the apostles "He is risen!" It was a woman, Mary Magdalene. The apostles didn't believe her because she was a woman. This indirectly shows the prejudice that was against women at that time, too. It also shows how that prejudice was, in part, going to be broken down as it was a woman who got that great honor, not the men.

In the times of the judges of Israel, most of them were pretty bad. One stood out especially. Deobrah, a woman. Nothing but good is said about her. She was a judge and a prophet. She prophesied that a woman would shortly bring down a major enemy of Israel. Jael outfoxed that man by giving him some milk to drink (which makes you sleepy) when he came to her tent for aid, then while he slept pounded a tent peg into his head!

The Bible says "Honor your mother and your father." All of the commandments are for both men and women. Yes, men only could be priests, but women could serve in the Temple too. Think of another prophetess, Anna, who recognized who the baby Messiah was. Research Hulda and how she helped to save Israel from destruction. Isaiah's wife was also a prophetess. A prophet is one of the most exalted roles in the Bible, ditto a judge over Israel.

It was Sarah, not Abraham, who said Ishamael had to go. And YHWH, aka God, told Abraham to listen to her. Women are not being depicted as inferior in any way in the Bible! Anyone who has been trying to preach such a thing is pushing a false Gospel.

Humans have the tendency to be bullies and to make excuses for their bullying. Women are generally smaller than men, plus pregnancies and child care make them more dependent, vulnerable. This is how they can be taken advantage of by people who need to get their hearts right with the Almighty.

In the Bible we are told men should submit to their husbands, but we are also told that both partners should submit to one another. It's all about being submissive to Messiah, ultimately, and showing love and respect. We are told to treat everyone with respect so if someone is disrespecting you as a woman, uh oh, Messiah is not happy with that!

I pray you will escape whatever abuse you may be suffering, receive healing for any abuse, and find out who you really are in Messiah.

Lafemme said:

My background as in race/ethnicity? I am black. I was raised in a Christian home i guess. A highly dysfunctional one but my parents took me to church. I was mistreated by a church but I don't want to go into detail about what happened. It was just very bad and I never want to set foot in a church ever again. I study the bible on my own

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Your perception of the value and place of women is so foreign to the Christian religion that I'm thinking the suggestion that's already been made about you getting serious about joining a church and becoming a serious Christian rather than just reading the Bible on your own and letting your mind run every which way...is a very good suggestion! Give it some careful consideration.

The fact that you may have had a bad experience with some congregation years ago is no reason to swear off on any involvement now, especially when you are having such doubts and worries. Just find a good one to attend.

This is a difficult subject matter to discuss, but I would highly advise you to NOT lean on your own understanding. Instead lean on the grace of GOD through his son lord JESUS. Pray for discernment in the name of the son of GOD. Be affirmed in him through repentance and remember that the enemy is roaring around us like a lion seeking whom he can devour.

Many times we read, and re-read verses in scripture attempting to receive the answers we want to hear, want to understand in our own ways and processes; however what is and always will be is the truth. We cannot argue with the truth for by it's very definition is valid and not invalid. JESUS is the way, the TRUTH, and the life. We cannot bypass the truth, and we cannot deny the truth ; only by lying. In accordance with scriptures and the truth...the master and father of lies is the devil. Ignore the roars, and silence them from your mind and heart.

There is nothing wrong with the inherant provision and love of women. Throughout scriptures we read of women in there youth and prime that offer resolute messages and strength, and yes a woman was created from the rib of man for the purpose of companionship and as a helper.

"I simply ask you this.....is there anything wrong with that?" I mean does anyone want to always be alone or should they? Not all wives can bear children...does that mean that they should be looked down upon? NOO!!

Many verses tell us of respect and all identify LOVE as the resounding overall message. After all as a man don't I have the responsibilty adn authority over me in/with JESUS the son of GOD, and GOD himself? Are we not supposed to respect and love one another as GOD and his son JESUS love us; as they offer that love through sacrifice, blessings, and creation itself.

To be able to give birth and nurture a child in love as a parent is a great responsibility and a great act of LOVE which all the commandments rest upon, and if....

1 Corinthians 7:20-35King James Version (KJV)
20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.

21 Art thou called being a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use it rather.

22 For he that is called in the Lord, being a servant, is the Lord's freeman: likewise also he that is called, being free, is Christ's servant.

23 Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.

24 Brethren, let every man, wherein he is called, therein abide with God.

25 Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.

26 I suppose therefore that this is good for the present distress, I say, that it is good for a man so to be.

27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.

28 But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you.

29 But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none;

30 And they that weep, as though they wept not; and they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not; and they that buy, as though they possessed not;

31 And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away.

32 But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:

33 But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.

34 There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.

35 And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.

I remind you to LOVE for that is the greatest of commandments and to find the true discernment of the meaning of that love and the truth is in and through JESUS the son of GOD. If you recall Mary M. from the new testament; how did JESUS respond to her? he did not cast her aside; he loved her and asked her to repent as I suppose he asks all those who LISTEN.

Pray child and listen for there is no lie found in him; being JESUS CHRIST the son of GOD.

Praise be to GOD the heavenly father and his son lord JESUS CHRIST forever>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

My goodness, don't you realize that some of the most important people in the Bible were women?
In many ways, I think God has given women the better part...sorry guys!
Someone already mentioned Mary, who brought Jesus to the world...no man had anything to do with it.
And Mary Magdalene, to whom was given the singular honor of being the very first person to see Jesus after His resurrection.
It was the women who saw the angels, btw, when they went to the tomb early Sunday morning, while their lazy slug-abed men slept.
Yes, a woman is to submit to her husband as to the Lord-but then her husband is told that he is to love her as Christ loves His church...even to die for her. He is to love her, care for her and her children, and protect her and the children with his own life...
And did you know that, in Jesus, men and women are absolutely equal? Yep...no bound or free, no Jew or Greek..and no male or female...all are ONE in Christ.
And, here's a surprise...husbands and wives are equal in the marriage bed! Yes, it is true...and it was Paul who said so.

1 Corinthians 7:4
4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

And who do you think supported Jesus' ministry? (hint: it wasn't men)

Luke 8:2-3
2 And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils,
3 And Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance.

I could go on and on...many people do think that women are inferior, but that's only because people tend to read into the Bible what they want to get out of it.
I'll just leave you with one more example.
Did you know that Paul actually calls a woman an apostle...and "of note among the apostles"? Oh, yeah...a female apostle. You won't hear that from many pulpits, I'm afraid...but it is in the Bible.

Romans 16:7
7 Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

Andronicus was male, of course...but Junia is obviously a girl's name.
And if you read the chapter, you'll find a whole lot of other ladies in there who held very important positions in the early church.

look to Jesus and how he treated women.

All that stuff in oT? Yes pretty bad. But then both men and women were pretty awful. Both used and blamed and bullied each other.

We have a new convenant now. If we know Jesus, we ultimately will not be male or female jew or gentile...but one in Christ. God looks on the heart, not the outward appearance. he sees our souls, which are genderless. Our bodies may show that we are male or female, but our souls are being perfected.

I agree sometimes it sucks being a woman. But on the otherhand, there are not so great things about being a man as well. Cant really have it both ways.

You need to look at the positive things and honor God with your body that he created you to be. Jesus treated women in loving an caring ways and nowhere does the bible say for christians to treat women like slaves.

Lafemme said:

i have a serious problem and I don't know what is going to happen to me when I die. I believe in God and Jesus but as a woman I believe God created women to be a helper aka a sexual and manual slave. God didn't care about women but created them to solve the problem that Adam needed to reproduce. God gave the world to men, Adam names all the animals and then even names eve like a piece of cattle. Eve was suffering in misery even before the fall. Women had periods and childbirth was somewhat painful even before she ate the apple. Now I knowledge all this and accept it but what I can't accept that since I was created to give glory to men why do I have to worship God? Why do I have to go to the same hell as a man even though God did nothing for me but make me a slave? My biggest concern is since there is no marriage or childbirth why can't I go back to the rib from which I was taken no heaven or hell. I think it's cruel for God to force me to continue to exist if my purpose was to be a slave to man. Basically I don't want to go to heaven or hell when I die just go back to the rib I was taken. If I pray can God do this for me or will I go to hell for even asking?

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Forgive me for not reading all the posts but I can kinda see the "crunch" you're in. Though I can't totally understand the desire for lack of existence I do understand the void in putting your focus into something like women being the "lesser". My "crunch" was mainly targetted to Jesus. Especially in Matthew when the centurian came to Him begging Him to heal his servant and then Jesus turned around and said "I have never seen such great faith, not even in Israel!" I had a constant "crunch" that was like "God is unfair." or "Jesus is proud." or "Why follow Him?" kind of things and what got me out of it was prayer...constant constant prayer.

The thing about men and women is that they are designed to have two different roles. Women often turn to believing that being a stay at home mom or working for the man (or at least in the Biblical timeframe) that it is sexist but men had to work...and work...and work...and work. Hard labors, servitude to sometimes harsh or strict masters or spending hours working in labor to construct a home or farm or garden... Women were to stay and maintain the household.. kinda like how it shows in Proverbs 31 when talking about a virtuous wife. And though I have mixed feelings about 2 Timothy...something something (or maybe 1 Timothy) where it talks about women not being permitted to talk in church or a woman not allowed to go to war (per se) or dress in a warrior's uniform like in Deuteronomy 22:5, I still know and believe God's intentions or purposes for the designs and roles between men and women are divine and Holy because that's just who He is..

...now..

If this post was totally off topic or unneeded feel feee to ignore it...haha..

During Biblical times, women were considered property. YET, Jesus treated them kindly. He obeyed his mother and even performed His first miracle at her request. There are no marriages in Heaven. We are all God's creation for His glory. God loves all of us and Jesus died for all of us. Accept His gift and don't worry about your status. Talk to a Christian counselor who can help you understand you are a beloved child of God.

When you read Paul's letters, you absolutely must understand who he was talking to, and what he was talking about.
Now, Timothy was pastoring a church in Ephesus...the city of the goddess Diana. This is why Paul cautioned Timothy about how to handle the women who were coming out of that cult into Christianity.
However, that does not mean that his instructions to Timothy were to be applied to all women everywhere for all of time. If that were so, why is Paul commending so many women in Romans 16 who held responsible positions that gave them authority over men in the church? And why is he praising a female apostle?
And again, in Corinth, we have a different situation. You do realize that, at this time, there were no church buildings like we have...these meetings were generally held in someone's home. Also, the idea of men and women sitting together the way we do in our churches...well, that wasn't the custom then. The women would have most likely been in another room, probably the kitchen, where they could still hear what was going on. Now, Corinth was a sea port city...folks who grow up around a sea port are usually a little more rough around the edges than other folks. Yes, even the women. And these gals would have thought nothing of singing out across everyone's heads to their husband in the other room.
Paul was simply telling them not to be so rude...

But if you will read Romans 16, seriously, you will see that Paul does commend several women who did hold positions of authority in the church. And yes, he even speaks of Junia, and calls her "of note among the apostles".

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Now, Timothy was pastoring a church in Ephesus...the city of the goddess Diana. This is why Paul cautioned Timothy about how to handle the women who were coming out of that cult into Christianity.
However, that does not mean that his instructions to Timothy were to be applied to all women everywhere for all of time. If that were so, why is Paul commending so many women in Romans 16 who held responsible positions that gave them authority over men in the church? And why is he praising a female apostle?

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Oh that's a relief. I always thought he was addressing all women not to..