The 100 and 50 and 3....?

Ephraim,

It is from a prophecy in Kabbalah.

Shalom,
Yafet.

I looked it up in a couple of commentaries and they both said that the number was mentioned because of the size of the haul, it was miraculous that he pulled in that many after they had fished all night and came up with nothing.

Not sure if that satisfies your question or not...

Because 154 would have been just too much and 152 is a little less holy than what God wanted....

Is it REALLY significant?

Perchance are you referring to the following quote EPHRIAM777?

Simon Peter went up and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three." Why this meticulous accuracy? Why not say he caught about a hundred and fifty fish? Now it will be remembered that when Jesus called Peter to become His disciple he said, "Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men." The one hundred and fifty three fishes are thus symbolic of the men whom Peter caught.' The number is therefore symbolic of 'The sons of God,' and this idea is closely connected with the factors of 153, namely 9 x 17 for 'eternal security.'

The reference in John is the only occasion on which the number 153 appears in Scripture so that direct confirmation by comparison of texts is not possible. However, some very remarkable evidence is to be derived from numeric values. In the record of the miraculous draught, the word for 'fishes' comes to 1,224, or 8 x 153, and the words for 'the net' have the same value, 1,224.

The Hebrew expression for ' Sons of God' has a numeric value of exactly 153, while the Greek equivalent adds up to 3,213, .or 3 x7 x153. Another Greek phrase with a similar meaning is 'joint heirs' which comes to 1,071; or 7'x 153. In Mark there is a complete list of the twelve disciples. The total numeric value of the names as there given is 9,639 or 7 x 9 x 153.

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25th February 2003 at 02:15 PM EPHRIAM777 said this in Post #1

Why did Jesus catch 153 fish...after some of the Apostles fished all night and caught nothing...JOHN 21:11...?

How come he didn't catch 154..or 152...??

How come Jesus caught 153..not one less..or one more...?

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I think what is significant is the fact that a number was mentioned, not what the number was. The Bible demonstrates time and again that it can be very specific about certain details. I see there are many that fulfill some need of theirs by claiming some special significance in that number, but I tell you there is not one single number you can come up with that you can't create some sort of significance for. Mathematics is funny that way. Just ask anyone who took the algorithms used by the 'Bible Code' guy and applied them to another book. It was amazing some of the 'prophesies' that were found in books other than the Bible

The importance is in the miracle, not the number. Don't miss the forest for the trees

I wasn’t going to reply (again) to this at first because it would be getting off topic but it kept calling me back.

I am very interested in things like ‘Scripture in the Stars’, Bible Numerics, Bilbe Code, The Great Pyramid and the likes. Although I don’t base my faith on these things I do believe there is something there to warrant a closer look. The Bible Code you refer to Frumanchu, was not discovered by the author of the book but was in use in ancient times by the Jewish scribes and priest. Yes they said they applied the same algorithms to the book Moby Dick but on closer examination they in fact did not. The code is based on a very rigid set of rules where the Moby Dick algorithm was not. They shoved all the words into a computer and shifted them (still sequential though) around to get the desired results. In the Bible Code the characters are not moved at all. The quote that I used in post #8 is taken from Bible Numerics, which is different again. Like the Bible Code it has a rigid set of rules.

Anyways, I didn’t reply to this post to prove Bible Numerics or the Bible Code. I just wanted to say that I believe God has put his seal on everything in existence. That seal is mathematics, which is the law of the universe. I believe that is the significance of the number of fishes they caught. God put his seal on it.

I believe that to Tawhano, it is the only thing that makes sense to me.

I just bought a video (The Fire from Heaven by Ray Comfort at Livingwaters.com) awhile ago that talked about this a bit. It's just idea that he mentioned, so go ahead and chuck it if you don't agree.

Also, have ever noticed how Peter had a lot of things happen in 3's?

2 Kings:9-14 It mentions 3 groups of 51 ( 50 men plus the captain). The first two groups are consumed by fire, the third is saved. This could be like the other parables (the wise and foolish virgins). He said that could be like the church, many are false converts few are not. Just an idea.