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Head Vs. Heart

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While watching another episode of A.D. The Bible Continues...when Jesus visited the Apostles and then vanished when Thomas showed up and then returned. I sat with a empathetic expression whilst my father, who is the utmost least emotional human being you can meet, chokes up and questions me on how I can't be...

Leaving for church the next day, sitting then standing then praying then praising, I took note from the back of the church how people were dabbing their eyes and sobbing when the words "He who knew no sin" came onto the screen and continued with praise for Him...

Is the lack of emotions the curse of OCD?
How do I change?

When someone tells me or reminds me of the whole works with Adam and Eve sinning and giving the rest of the human race a sinful nature only for God to send down His only begotten Son to die on the cross for us. I understand. Yes, I memorized those verses. Yes, I grew up hearing that. But how can that, to what people call, "amazing" story sink into my hard heart. The Bible talks about people who have hardhearts...but does It say how to remedy it? I'd love to become emotional when talking about a Man who died for me so that I may live...I'd love for that to happen to me...so how do I change?

Over the past few weeks, I've experienced nothing but my feelings and emotions rolled out and dulled down. I literally can't write "i am amazed" "i fear..." "I am scared that.." "I'm worried for..." because I actually don't feel...anything at all.... With the conclusion from the last two points I made...I came up to the question "What if I'm not meant to be saved?" And whilst I don't really feel scared... how do I change? How do you fix a lack of emotion? How do I change?

The constant feeling like I don't care. Why is that? "Jesus died for you" feelings: I don't care. "You're a sinner, you need to repent" feelings: I don't care. "You need to read the Bible" feelings: I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. Why is that? Why do I have to go through this? How do I change?

"Do you think about sitting in a chair when you do it daily? Why question that faith" Because sitting in a chair won't get me into Heaven or save me from Hell. Forgive me for wanting to be sure of my faith in Christ.

What I despise the most is that when I tell people over and over and over again about what I know about Jesus, I always feel like I don't believe it. Like it's true for you, not for me kind of thing. And personally....from what I've seen, read, and heard; there's absolutely nothing wrong with Jesus. All the while I feel stuck...kind of like I'm unable to believe. How can I make that leap? How can I ground my trust/faith/belief? How can I change?

It's not enough to simply know Him, we have to KNOW Him personally, right? I don't feel connected. Yes I know it's cos of sin. But when I ask for a heart of repentance...........how...how do I change?

There's no magic switch I can pull that can make me wake up every morning and in case of fear, calm my spirit with the realization that I still have faith in Him. No magic switch that I can switch that can make me love Jesus. No magic switch that I can switch that can make me repent with remorseful godly sorrow over my sins. No magic switch that can make me instantaneously hate or loathe sin. No magic switch that I can switch that can make me break into tears when talking about what Jesus did for me? So with all this being said...

...How can I change? How can I change from having it all head knowledge...to sinking it into heart knowledge?...
 

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Everything you have said is true of someone who struggles with
mental illness.

Are you on medication or in cognitive therapy?
What do your therapist, psychologist or counselors say?
What about Christian mentoring and prayer partners? Are you
now connected with those also?
 
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Are you on medication or in cognitive therapy?
Yes. I'm on medication....Zoloft...i believe is the name of the perscriptions...
What do your therapist, psychologist or counselors say?
We stopped going to the Psychologist when she mixed up my history with what was currently going on [ Past (Self Harm) + Current Events (Intrusive Thoughts) = Intrusive Thoughts About Wanting To Self Harm (?????) ] and strongly advised my mother and perscribed that I be taken to the ER immediately...
What about Christian mentoring and prayer partners? Are you
now connected with those also?
I have a mentor....she's a school teacher, my English teacher.....but yeah...
 
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What you're describing seems like depression. The first psychologist you saw sounds like she had no clue what she was doing, but I'd urge you to find another psychologist. When my OCD/Depression/self-harm was really bad, I found seeing a psychologist invaluable. Even just to vent or find out different ways of dealing with situations. There are good ones out there, but it may take a few tries before you find one that you gel with.
 
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What you described, the feeling of "I don't care," sounds very similar to a symptom of depression. Seeing a different specialist is never a bad idea in these cases. Sometimes you get one who doesn't really understand or who just tries to immediately categorize you and send you for treatment without actually trying to understand your personal situation. It happens, sadly, but there are good ones out there.

Also, don't feel like you need to feel emotional all the time to be saved. Some churches put more emphasis on emotion than others, and there's nothing wrong with getting emotional. However, our faith is based on facts. On what we choose to believe. Not what we "feel." Heck, I've met people who raise their hands during praise music and cry during prayer time, but once they're outside of the church environment, they act like the opposite of a Christian.

There are also plenty of people out there, myself included, who just aren't particularly emotional people. Not crying when reading the Bible or prayed does not make you an unsaved person.
 
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What you described, the feeling of "I don't care," sounds very similar to a symptom of depression.
that's probably because it is...my dad warns me not to go into detail or fall into anything where my records can be labeled "depressed" because that apparently makes employers a little eery on hiring.....if my dad didn't argue against the doctor I would have been diagnosed with MDD, alongside with my GAD and OCD. I have been depressed on and off a very long time. The biggest thing I have that easily gets me depressed is watching my friends chat and talk and get close and it automatically makes me feel like I'm invisible. Like the whole notion of "I could be dead and no one would notice"... when I went to lash out at them though I have to fight myself with telling me that it isn't right and either way Jesus is way bigger and better than your friendships....it's a struggle and there are some moments (very few) where the scars on my arm don't help....

There are also plenty of people out there, myself included, who just aren't particularly emotional people. Not crying when reading the Bible or prayed does not make you an unsaved person.
Same....thank you for the advice!
 
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