Day of the Lord on September 24 2015?

mxyzpt1k · May 6, 2015

Strong in Him said:
Sorry, either you genuinely don't understand or you are refusing to try.
In the OT there were 2 prophets; Elijah and Elisha.
Elijah , or Elias,had a big showdown on mount Carmel with the prophets of Baal, where he showed them the power of God. He killed 450 of them, ran away because he was scared of Jezebel, lay down in the desert and told God he wanted to die because everyone was against him. God provided food and water for him and told him to go to Mount Horeb. There, God told Elijah to anoint various people as kings and Elisha to succeed him as prophet.

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I KINGS 19:18 Yet I have left [me] seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him.
I KINGS 19:19 So he departed thence, and found Elisha the son of Shaphat, who [was] plowing [with] twelve yoke [of oxen] before him, and he with the twelfth: and Elijah passed by him, and cast his mantle upon him.
I KINGS 19:21 And he returned back from him, and took a yoke of oxen, and slew them, and boiled their flesh with the instruments of the oxen, and gave unto the people, and they did eat. Then he arose, and went after Elijah, and ministered unto him.

We can view this as a parable, Elisha Ministers to Elijah after receiving the "New Clothing", Elijah is continuing his walk of faith as the messiah of the Churches, so he is seen as a lesser representative of the gospel at this stage, so God changes his name from Elijah to Elisha, like God changed the name of Abram to Abraham (Gen. 17:5). .................... Joseph receives a "Mantle, or Coat of Many Colors from Jacob", but because Jacob is not the same person as Joseph, God does not change the name of Jacob in the gospel after Joseph receives the "Mantle, or Coat of Many Colors" (Gen. 37:3).

Strong in Him said:
The Jews expected Elijah to return before the Messiah came, they believed Jesus was calling for Elijah when he was on the cross, and, because they do not believe their Messiah has come, even today they set a place at their Passover table for Elijah.
Elisha succeeded Elijah as prophet. He is the prophet that 2 Kings 13 refers to; NOT Elijah.

The Jewish people expected Elijah to return when Jesus was risen on the cross, because they expected Jesus to reign over the churches, like Elijah had done, after God changed his name to Elisha. ................ Jesus did not come off the cross, because he was not given, "New Clothing from the Holy Spirit". Instead, the Hebrews wanted to discredit Jesus as a prophet, so they claimed, "Elijah" was not risen with "New Clothing" ... in the Old Testament after the Church had beat on the body of Elijah, he was given "New Clothing" ... ... ... ... so if the law was not fulfilled with Elijah, then Jesus could not be a prophet because after they beat on his body, he was not risen, so "Elias" did not come, when "Elias" had already came. The name of Elias is deliberately misspelled in the gospel to indicate the association in the New Testament.

Strong in Him said:
You quoted a passage from 2 Kings to illustrate your point, and referred to the prophet as Elijah. The prophet in that incident was Elisha; Elijah had died by then - in fact Elisha himself was almost dead, it seems.

Elijah like Jonah, like the Antichrist has to die for "3 Days", in order to receive the "Mantle, New Clothing from the Holy Spirit"

I KINGS 17:18 And she said unto Elijah, What have I to do with thee, O thou man of God? art thou come unto me to call my sin to remembrance, and to slay my son?
I KINGS 17:21 And he stretched himself upon the child three times, and cried unto the LORD, and said, O LORD my God, I pray thee, let this child's soul come into him again.
I KINGS 17:22 And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived.

We talked about how the church beat on the body of Elijah, and how God rebuked the church by giving Elijah a, "Mantle, or New Clothing from the Holy Spirit". From that point on Elijah was known as Elisha. The Antichrist like Jonah like Elijah, will go into the belly of the fish (satan) for 3 Days in order to be reborn as a "High Priest", in order to lead the churches. Now this happened to Noah before he went to Ninevah to speak for 40 days, at the end of time we have the 42 Days of the Great Tribulation in view, very similar.

(People Committing Suicide) God does not allow this behavior with the Antichrist, God has an appointed time to raise the Antichrist as a High Priest. Don't get me wrong, you can try to, or kill the Antichrist at anytime, but the only thing that will happen is he will be resurrected, and thousands of people will be put to death. ....................... Zechariah Sitchin had discovered something about the Antichrist based on his studies of the ancients secrets of the Sumerians, that has alluded society apparently or willfully. Remember, because of the Antichrist, most countries on earth stopped using analog signals in the public domain, on certain forms of broadcasting.

Strong in Him · May 7, 2015

mxyzpt1k said:
I KINGS 19:18 Yet I have left [me] seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him.
I KINGS 19:19 So he departed thence, and found Elisha the son of Shaphat, who [was] plowing [with] twelve yoke [of oxen] before him, and he with the twelfth: and Elijah passed by him, and cast his mantle upon him.
I KINGS 19:21 And he returned back from him, and took a yoke of oxen, and slew them, and boiled their flesh with the instruments of the oxen, and gave unto the people, and they did eat. Then he arose, and went after Elijah, and ministered unto him.

We can view this as a parable,

No, I don't believe we can.
Unless God, a prophet, or the Lord Jesus says "remember Elijah and Elisha? That was a parable to teach you ....." we have no authority to take a historical incident and decide it is a parable.

mxyzpt1k said:
Elisha Ministers to Elijah after receiving the "New Clothing", Elijah is continuing his walk of faith as the messiah of the Churches, so he is seen as a lesser representative of the gospel at this stage, so God changes his name from Elijah to Elisha, like God changed the name of Abram to Abraham (Gen. 17:5)

How can Elisha minister to Elijah if they are actually the same person?
The Scripture that you quoted proves this to be false. Elijah found Elisha and put his mantle on him. Elisha took some oxen, killed them, gave them to the people and then he followed Elijah.

It is a fact that Elijah and Elisha were two different people.
Anyone on this forum will tell you that; the Jews would tell you that. Commentators, theologians and clergy would tell you that. Why? Because Scripture says so.
Maybe you need Elijah and Elisha to be the same person to prove whatever point you are trying to make, but they weren't. You can deny that to yourself if you like, but I doubt anyone else will take you seriously unless you admit this fact.

mxyzpt1k said:
The Jewish people expected Elijah to return when Jesus was risen on the cross, because they expected Jesus to reign over the churches, like Elijah had done, after God changed his name to Elisha. ................ Jesus did not come off the cross, because he was not given, "New Clothing from the Holy Spirit".

1. The Jews didn't expect Jesus to rise at all; they wanted him dead. They didn't believe he was their Messiah.
2. Jesus didn't rise "on the cross", he rose from a tomb, 3 days after he died.
3. God did not change Elijah's name to Elisha.
Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit, filled with the Holy Spirit and was God. He did not come off the cross because he was laying down his life, as a sacrifice, for our sins. He loved us so much that he wanted us to be reconciled to God and have eternal life.

mxyzpt1k said:
Elijah like Jonah, like the Antichrist has to die for "3 Days", in order to receive the "Mantle, New Clothing from the Holy Spirit"

The OT tells us how Elijah was taken up to heaven. The only time he appears after that is at the transfiguration, many 100s of years later.

mxyzpt1k said:
We talked about how the church beat on the body of Elijah, and how God rebuked the church by giving Elijah a, "Mantle, or New Clothing from the Holy Spirit". From that point on Elijah was known as Elisha.

None of this is in the bible. Either it's all your own idea, or you have listening to someone who is leading a cult, or something. Either way, it is wrong.

mxyzpt1k said:
.(People Committing Suicide) God does not allow this behavior with the Antichrist, God has an appointed time to raise the Antichrist as a High Priest. Don't get me wrong, you can try to, or kill the Antichrist at anytime, but the only thing that will happen is he will be resurrected, and thousands of people will be put to death. ....................... Zechariah Sitchin had discovered something about the Antichrist based on his studies of the ancients secrets of the Sumerians, that has alluded society apparently or willfully. Remember, because of the Antichrist, most countries on earth stopped using analog signals in the public domain, on certain forms of broadcasting.

This is unscriptural and also completely wrong. Also, none of it makes sense.

mxyzpt1k · May 7, 2015

Strong in Him said:
No, I don't believe we can.
Unless God, a prophet, or the Lord Jesus says "remember Elijah and Elisha? That was a parable to teach you ....." we have no authority to take a historical incident and decide it is a parable.

LUKE 14:5 And answered them, saying, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day?
I KINGS 19:19 So he departed thence, and found Elisha the son of Shaphat, who [was] plowing [with] twelve yoke [of oxen] before him, and he with the twelfth: and Elijah passed by him, and cast his mantle upon him.

That is exactly what Jesus told the Apostles about Elijah. Elijah had previously killed the "Golden Calf of Aaron" in 1 Kings 18 by burning up the prophets of BAAL, and redeeming the Priesthood to God's Glory (since Aaron fell from the Levites under Moses, sin from the Priesthood has always been attributed to Aaron to some degree). Even though God counted this for righteousness ... God established the office of the High Priest, and therefore God redeemed this office through Elijah, by giving him a resurrected body from the Holy Spirit as an example to the church, thus changing his name to Elisha. (Moses finishes the conviction of Aaron in revelations, by rebuking their repentance with God ... "Moses and Elijah" stated by Jesus, God will use Moses to serve as an example like Elijah during the 42 days of the Great Tribulation, like Jonah had done for 40 days)

Strong in Him said:
How can Elisha minister to Elijah if they are actually the same person?
The Scripture that you quoted proves this to be false. Elijah found Elisha and put his mantle on him. Elisha took some oxen, killed them, gave them to the people and then he followed Elijah.

Spiritually speaking, when Elijah became a High Priest, he ministered to himself as Elisha. (God does not allow the "Sons of Man" to have spiritual authority over Satan, even if Elijah became a High Priest as Elisha, he still did not have spiritual authority over Satan, so God says he ministered to himself).

1. Elijah kills the Animals (rebukes satan) as Elisha
2. Apostle Peter does not kill the Animals

ACTS 10:13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
ACTS 10:14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

God had taken the Apostle Peter away from Satan because he ultimately refused to serve as a High Priest, but before this happened ... ... ... ... rather the reason Peter did not serve as a High Priest, because "Aaron" (at that time the romans), wanted the Apostle Peter to reign as a High Priest outside of Jerusalem, to invalidate the Prophet Jeremiah's Commandment to Aaron of keeping the "Temple Mound" in jerusalem clean. ... ... ... ... The gospel indicates that so many (thousands or hundreds of thousands), of people were simply euthanized surrounding the Apostle Peter, when the Gospel says the ruler was "slain by Star Wormwood" that railed against Peter (that ruler was satan). If the Antichrist refuses to serve as a High Priest, the Gospel ends when the Great Tribulation begins, it does not continue for 42 more days to the 3 Days of Darkness, and it does not continue for 150 more days after that. ... ... ... ... What the Antichrist is looking for is a certain level of force national or international, against the gospel in his name, without God responding with a national or international level of euthanasia, then I'm sure humanity will surely die on 7/15/2015, but before this time we must keep watch (there will be 4 inheritors exactly like the gospel states, but no more souls are judged, the judgment will be completed) (There's a reasonable chance so far, that the universe ends in an instant on 7/15/2015, at this moment I don't believe thats going to happen, unless the level of force increases considerably more then what it is at its current levels, I gave a few suggestions, but unless what I've suggested begins to be done, 7/15/2015 will not be the conclusion of the gospel ... from about 6000 at peace, to maybe about 1billion of their kind, maybe their whole race, after that percentages of the global population, but the level of force is not there quite yet, so we must be faithful about achieving our goals in the near future).

Strong in Him · May 7, 2015

mxyzpt1k said:
Spiritually speaking, when Elijah became a High Priest, he ministered to himself as Elisha. (God does not allow the "Sons of Man" to have spiritual authority over Satan, even if Elijah became a High Priest as Elisha, he still did not have spiritual authority over Satan, so God says he ministered to himself).

The whole of your "teaching" depends on the fact that Elijah and Elisha were the same person. They weren't and you will never be able to prove otherwise.

The fact that you still insist they were means that you haven't read/don't believe what the Bible says and are not reading/understanding what I am saying.

Unsubscribing because you aren't reading Scripture, just following your own agenda.
If you want to continue this discussion, prove that Elijah and Elisha were the same person. (Hint, you won't be able to.)

duolos · May 7, 2015

Jipsah said:
It's thick sliced baloney. As you pointed out, our Lord Himself says we're not going to know, but that doesn't prevent people from setting dates for His return, dates that always come and go without anything notable happening. When their dates pass, the date setters will invariably to one of three things: 1) they'll declare that they've miscalculated by failing to account for the procession of the equinoxes or the Doppler Effect or something, and set a new date, 2) they'll declare that the Lord did in fact return, but that "return" should be taken to mean whatever the date setter decides it should, or 3) disappear into a well-deserved obscurity. What they never do is apologize and admit that they were presumptuous in thinking that they could get around what our Lord told us.

Harold Camping did take option 4 it just wasn't that publicised...

mxyzpt1k · May 7, 2015

Strong in Him said:
The whole of your "teaching" depends on the fact that Elijah and Elisha were the same person. They weren't and you will never be able to prove otherwise.

The fact that you still insist they were means that you haven't read/don't believe what the Bible says and are not reading/understanding what I am saying.

Unsubscribing because you aren't reading Scripture, just following your own agenda.
If you want to continue this discussion, prove that Elijah and Elisha were the same person. (Hint, you won't be able to.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc_4eoSHwK8

MARK 6:13 And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed [them].
MARK 6:14 And king Herod heard [of him]; (for his name was spread abroad

and he said, That John the Baptist was risen from the dead, and therefore mighty works do shew forth themselves in him.
MARK 6:15 Others said, That it is Elias. And others said, That it is a prophet, or as one of the prophets.

The statement is that Elijah was risen from the dead when he had "Baptized the Child" (1kings17:18-22). That Child was Satan, when God made Elijah a High Priest to reign over Satan, he gave him a new name written in a stone, that name was Elisha.

DEUTERONOMY 33:24 And of Asher he said, [Let] Asher [be] blessed with children; let him be acceptable to his brethren, and let him dip his foot in oil.
DEUTERONOMY 33:25 Thy shoes [shall be] iron and brass; and as thy days, [so shall] thy strength [be].

These are mentioned in the book of Daniel, as the 4th and 5th Kingdoms, connected by the Great Tribulation. Elijah had was beheaded spiritually to be a High Priest, like John the Baptist. The same is true for the Antichrist, that is why the the description of "Asher", where a "Child is saved, under the "iron and brass", and the "feet of oil", applied to Elijah, but it also applies to the Antichrist.

Seeking Salvation · Aug 31, 2015

There is one thing we need to keep in mind.

One of the most important things about the end times that often goes overlooked, are the two prophets God will send us in revelation 11, this will be the last and final call to repentance as they clear a way for the lord.
Every nation in the world will hear it, it will be preached, they will also be killed.

I am no expert on the bible or anything (new to my faith in christ) but I recall reading somewhere that the lord does nothing without sending us prophets, and you will know them by their fruits, I personally think this will be a huge spiritual awakening for people world wide, the prophets of today just plant fear into people, these will be the people to pay attention too, they are authorised with powers from heaven.

Who they are (debateable) but we will know them by there fruits, my opinion is they will not be preaching fear to people, but tey will be preaching something more important, how to be saved, that's what needs to be looked at.

They will be murderd, or killed, and will lie in the street for 3 and a half days and will come back to life before there enemies and dissapear back to heaven.

This is unlikley to occur in the next month (perhaps) if we were to take it to it's extreme, that date might signify, the beginning of something, but I don't think anything is going to happen on that specific date, God is fair and just, and he gives everyone a chance to accept him, they will gather the lost sheep, and they will be our mentors and teachers.

Those who do not beleive in them (or don't want to beleive in them) for what-ever reason (maybe ard lives)
Rejection of God, what-ever, different faiths etc
Will be at risk.

The point of it is, I prayer to god every day, I don't know if I am pleasing to him, but I prayer, and I prayer, and I prayer, and I ask him to change my life, and help guide me and give me stregnth for my own repentance, if I die in the next five minutes, or on september 23rd, we need to be able to stand before the lord and say, we tried lord, we trusted you, we done our best to repent.

If we are to be cast into the lake of fire, I would rather go there knowing I done my best, and tried in my faith.
That's all you can do, and we should always be prepared.

interpreter · Sep 1, 2015

DiscipleEthan said:
Someone told me that the day of the lord will possibly be on September 24 2015 and I did my own research on it. They think the day of the lord is coming because there's rumors that an asteroid will strike the earth on that day, as well as the pope speaking to congress on the same day. I'm unsure about their theories since no one knows the day or hour but the father. Any thoughts on this?

LOL. The Day of the Lord is the third millennium AD, which began in 2001 when, it also happens, the Battle of That Great Day of God Almighty began. It began on 9/11 when, it also happens, the Euphrates was dry (dried up by Saddam Hussein to prepare the way for the kings of the east in what Muslims call the Mother of All Battles). The US, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse, is the 4th horseman to rule the earth for Jesus and is now dropping 100-pound "hailstones" on the latest face of the 7th head of Satan. The Revelation suggests that the Battle of Ar Mageddon, as it is also known, will ultimately result in the last head of Satan being so soundly defeated that Satan wont be heard from again for a thousand years.

civilwarbuff · Sep 1, 2015

Dave Watchman said:
I'm afraid that it might be sooner, I wouldn't count on making it that far before something happens. I think that the Pope must be in the know, he has to know something. They put the Shroud of Turin on display for 67 days during a 37 day time of interest. I think that we'll be hit by something, but it won't be a normal asteroid from space. We won't spot God's first Trumpet with a telescope, it's going to be sudden destruction.

If we can make it past the middle of May I'm going to relax for awhile.

Guess you have been relaxing for awhile

civilwarbuff · Sep 1, 2015

Strong in Him said:
No, I don't believe we can.
Unless God, a prophet, or the Lord Jesus says "remember Elijah and Elisha? That was a parable to teach you ....." we have no authority to take a historical incident and decide it is a parable.

How can Elisha minister to Elijah if they are actually the same person?
The Scripture that you quoted proves this to be false. Elijah found Elisha and put his mantle on him. Elisha took some oxen, killed them, gave them to the people and then he followed Elijah.

It is a fact that Elijah and Elisha were two different people.
Anyone on this forum will tell you that; the Jews would tell you that. Commentators, theologians and clergy would tell you that. Why? Because Scripture says so.
Maybe you need Elijah and Elisha to be the same person to prove whatever point you are trying to make, but they weren't. You can deny that to yourself if you like, but I doubt anyone else will take you seriously unless you admit this fact.

1. The Jews didn't expect Jesus to rise at all; they wanted him dead. They didn't believe he was their Messiah.
2. Jesus didn't rise "on the cross", he rose from a tomb, 3 days after he died.
3. God did not change Elijah's name to Elisha.
Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit, filled with the Holy Spirit and was God. He did not come off the cross because he was laying down his life, as a sacrifice, for our sins. He loved us so much that he wanted us to be reconciled to God and have eternal life.

The OT tells us how Elijah was taken up to heaven. The only time he appears after that is at the transfiguration, many 100s of years later.

None of this is in the bible. Either it's all your own idea, or you have listening to someone who is leading a cult, or something. Either way, it is wrong.

This is unscriptural and also completely wrong. Also, none of it makes sense.

You are just spitting into the wind with this one. Few bricks shy of a full load if you ask me.

Strong in Him · Sep 1, 2015

civilwarbuff said:
You are just spitting into the wind with this one. Few bricks shy of a full load if you ask me.

Yes, probably.

Dave Watchman · Sep 1, 2015

Seeking Salvation said:
One of the most important things about the end times that often goes overlooked, are the two prophets God will send us in revelation 11, this will be the last and final call to repentance as they clear a way for the lord.
Every nation in the world will hear it, it will be preached, they will also be killed.

I am no expert on the bible or anything (new to my faith in christ) but I recall reading somewhere that the lord does nothing without sending us prophets, and you will know them by their fruits, I personally think this will be a huge spiritual awakening for people world wide, the prophets of today just plant fear into people, these will be the people to pay attention too, they are authorised with powers from heaven.

Who they are (debateable) but we will know them by there fruits, my opinion is they will not be preaching fear to people, but tey will be preaching something more important, how to be saved, that's what needs to be looked at.

They will be murderd, or killed, and will lie in the street for 3 and a half days and will come back to life before there enemies and dissapear back to heaven.

This is unlikley to occur in the next month (perhaps) if we were to take it to it's extreme, that date might signify, the beginning of something, but I don't think anything is going to happen on that specific date, God is fair and just, and he gives everyone a chance to accept him, they will gather the lost sheep, and they will be our mentors and teachers.

I've only been digging into Daniel and Revelation since January 2012. I consider myself barely novice.

I agree with what you're saying, we can't ignore the prophetic time periods. The 1260 days of Revelation 11 has to be completed with the 7th trumpet before the Lord arrives on the last day of the tribulation. If we haven't even seen the two witnesses how could the Day of the Lord catch us by surprise.

I know that there's a difference of opinion on this but I think that the Day of the Lord is the first day of the tribulation, the last day of the tribulation and all the days during the tribulation. When God intervenes in the affairs of mankind, mankind's days are over with, the censer is cast down and then we feast on a banquet of trumpets.

In other words the coming of the Son of man is a process of events which span many days that will culminate in the arrival of the Son of man. On the day that the Son of man is revealed is day 1 of the tribulation when hail and fire, mixed with blood, are thrown upon the earth. And a third of the earth will be burned up, and a third of the trees will be burned up, and all green grass will be burned up.

It's a new Revelation of Jesus, and He is God.

“I came to cast fire on the earth, and would that it were already kindled! "

"because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed;
and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead.”

by Ron Rhodes

Why did Jesus say He came "to bring fire on the earth" (Luke 12:49)?

In Luke 12:49 Jesus said, "I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!" Scholars have interpreted Jesus' words differently, and all agree that it is hard to know precisely what He had in mind here.

Some scholars point out that in Old Testament times fire often symbolized judgment. This has led some to conclude that when Jesus said, "I have come to bring fire on the earth," He was saying He would bring judgment to the earth. This would fit with John 9:39 where Jesus said, "For judgment I have come into this world."

http://home.earthlink.net/~ronrhodes/qfireonearth.html

Dave Watchman · Sep 1, 2015

civilwarbuff said:
Guess you have been relaxing for awhile

That's funny. I wouldn't exactly call it relaxing, more like a sigh of relief. When I said: "I'm afraid that it might be sooner", I didn't mean it like: " I'm afraid that we can't go to the movies". On the 3rd of May I was honestly afraid for the worst, filled with apprehension. I thought that the Apocalypse was right at the door.

I don't have any elaborate hieroglyphics to post but I'm still on red alert until the end of this year. In 2033 the same set up of eclipse numbers will occur but no tetrads will be accompanying them. Plus all of the fig tree, Jubilee and Newton calculations which confirm the tetrad data will go down the drain.

Technically, because of my understanding of Daniel 9, I've been told that I'm a partial preterist. It's just that I don't think our end time tribulation will be 7 years long. More like 3.5 years or less with: " And except those days should be shortened" as the wild card.

The Antichrist has to have 42 months of authority but it doesn't mean that he has to appear in the flesh for that entire time. He could be working for many days from the abyss before he is revealed in the flesh when he gets his key at the 5th trumpet.

"And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon."

I found another number that goes with the green bar graph but it doesn't make any more sense than this note will. If you count the days in between the last moon of our tetrad until the blood moon of January 21, 2019 you'll get 1211 days. 1-21-19

"But for the sake of the elect those days WILL be cut short."

Could the Lord have made an allowance for trimming down the tribulation?

http://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?m1=9&d1=28&y1=2015&m2=1&d2=21&y2=2019

http://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/lunar/2019-january-21

http://tinyurl.com/Dave-Watchman-1335

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Strong in Him · Sep 2, 2015

Dave Watchman said:
On the 3rd of May I was honestly afraid for the worst, filled with apprehension. I thought that the Apocalypse was right at the door.

I don't have any elaborate hieroglyphics to post but I'm still on red alert until the end of this year.

This is what saddens, and exasperates me about eschatology, it seems to lead to fear or induce fear in people, rather than hope and joy.

Jesus is returning one day; in his glory, as king. We will see him :clap:

and will be with him forever. :amen:

We don't know exactly when that day will be, and in the meantime we have work to do anyway - telling others about him while there is still time, and helping to further his kingdom in any way we can, or any way he asks us to.

I'm not saying that people aren't doing that, but it's sad when I read that Christians, God's own beloved children, are afraid, nervous or on edge because others have said that something might happen on a certain day. It happened in 2012 when a forummer said that something was likely to happen during the London Olympics - and people were getting hysterical about this on YouTube. It's happened at other times when people have either set dates or hinted that something was very likely on a certain date.

Perfect love drives out all fear.

civilwarbuff · Sep 2, 2015

Strong in Him said:
This is what saddens, and exasperates me about eschatology, it seems to lead to fear or induce fear in people, rather than hope and joy.

Jesus is returning one day; in his glory, as king. We will see him and will be with him forever.
We don't know exactly when that day will be, and in the meantime we have work to do anyway - telling others about him while there is still time, and helping to further his kingdom in any way we can, or any way he asks us to.

I'm not saying that people aren't doing that, but it's sad when I read that Christians, God's own beloved children, are afraid, nervous or on edge because others have said that something might happen on a certain day. It happened in 2012 when a forummer said that something was likely to happen during the London Olympics - and people were getting hysterical about this on YouTube. It's happened at other times when people have either set dates or hinted that something was very likely on a certain date.

Perfect love drives out all fear.

Amen Brother. All things that fall in place for His coming should be celebrated not feared.

faroukfarouk · Sep 3, 2015

Strong in Him said:
This is what saddens, and exasperates me about eschatology, it seems to lead to fear or induce fear in people, rather than hope and joy.

Jesus is returning one day; in his glory, as king. We will see him and will be with him forever.
We don't know exactly when that day will be, and in the meantime we have work to do anyway - telling others about him while there is still time, and helping to further his kingdom in any way we can, or any way he asks us to.

I'm not saying that people aren't doing that, but it's sad when I read that Christians, God's own beloved children, are afraid, nervous or on edge because others have said that something might happen on a certain day. It happened in 2012 when a forummer said that something was likely to happen during the London Olympics - and people were getting hysterical about this on YouTube. It's happened at other times when people have either set dates or hinted that something was very likely on a certain date.

Perfect love drives out all fear.

Strong in Him:

John says in His First Epistle: "And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure' (1 John 3.3).

Certainty about the future in the Lord's hands should indeed have a practical effect on the believer's life.

Another Lazarus · Sep 10, 2015

AlephBet said:
24 Along the way they stopped for the night. Yahweh met Moses and tried to kill him.

How many more did he kill, going against the decree of Elohim in Genesis 9?

God had been patient with Moses who didnt want to circumcise his son until His patient is finished
but Moses wife zipporah took initiative to circumcise that son so the bloody punishment from God can be passed from Moses considering the blood of the wound of the son.

Exodus 4:24 And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the LORD met him, and sought to kill him.25Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me 26 So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision.

God Yahova didnt cause all the evil on earth, bow urself and pray and fast instead of slandering Him,
or you will be going nowhere.

Jesus bless u HalleluYAH

Handmaid for Jesus · Sep 10, 2015

I believe we would all be a little less anxious if we would just do and believe this word.
John 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

faroukfarouk · Sep 10, 2015

Handmaid for Jesus said:
I believe we would all be a little less anxious if we would just do and believe this word.
John 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Well, exactly.

And what we need to do, instead of speculating and worrying, in the meantime, is to serve Him faithfully in the light of His certain promises.

Handmaid for Jesus · Sep 10, 2015

faroukfarouk said:
Well, exactly.

And what we need to do, instead of speculating and worrying, in the meantime, is to serve Him faithfully in the light of His certain promises.

AMEN!

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