can christians NOT be nudists

walk the talk · Jan 10, 2015

OGM said:
The strange part about it is some of them served in the military. Which means they were nude in front of other people. I really don't get their mentality and obsession/fear about nudity.

I don't mind what they think. What I do mind is telling me I am living in sin for enjoying the nudist lifestyle when they have no biblical foundation for their claims. I believe they are led to believe this lie the same as 80% or more of Christians and for that reason have a really hard time to wrap their minds around it. What the real injustice of it all is that since most christians do believe it is a sinful behaviour they fall into the trap of inappropriate content. If they didn't have a problem with nudity and they could see the beauty in the naked human form the way God ment it to be, the lie of inappropriate content would be revieled to them and there would be no more temptation. The church is at fault for that one and if you want to look even farther, satan. Without good nudity there is no gauge to base what is inappropriate content and what God made in his image becomes dirty and vile to them and that is where inappropriate content binds them without any way out. I believe we are meant to admire and respect the naked form and thank God for making us so darn beautiful. After that why in Gods name would you want inappropriate content??? The church caused the problem and dug themselves a hole so deep they don't know how to get out. God have mercy. That is all I can say. We just have to keep on showing them other guys the truth and hope they get it some day.

OGM · Jan 10, 2015

Perhaps some need to feed on generating fear of temptation.

walk the talk · Jan 10, 2015

OGM said:
Perhaps some need to feed on generating fear of temptation.

Nothing works for them. They try all sorts of magical formulas. More faith in God, prayer, anointing ect....

The church has never been able to shake of the nagging problem of inappropriate content from its leaders and congregation. It is because they have got hooked on satans lie so badly that they can't get off.

Like I said, God have mercy. I think though that God is using us nudists to help the ones who are open to listening.

TheyCallMeDavid · Jan 10, 2015

walk the talk said:
Hello there, the problem with this style of argument is that it could be used in reverse and we would be no further ahead. You could use all the exact rules and argue it is better to keep your clothes off. If you are using the bible as your guide you have no base for your statements. Heck for all that matters you could use similar arguments for eating red meat. Just change it up a bit. This is the problem with this style of argument. It is useless and in my own words no offence, like hot air out of a buffoon. There is no substance to it.

Gods principles and morals for correct living have worked great up until our Post Modern Era kicked in and American went the way of secular Humanism so man could be his own authority and really mess up American Society as it is now from making sexual hedonism its favorite pastime (all at the expense of people getting hurt and even dying way prematurely) . A sexually illicit Nation cannot survive well, for it implodes on itself and leaves behind irreversible fallout .

Stick to Gods ways and you wont have suffer consequences for silly immature narcissistic decisions based on a feeding frenzy for hedonism at any cost.

OGM · Jan 10, 2015

TheyCallMeDavid said:
Stick to Gods ways and you wont have suffer consequences for silly immature narcissistic decisions based on a feeding frenzy for hedonism at any cost.

Hedonism?!

walk the talk · Jan 10, 2015

TheyCallMeDavid said:
Gods principles and morals for correct living have worked great up until our Post Modern Era kicked in and American went the way of secular Humanism so man could be his own authority and really mess up American Society as it is now from making sexual hedonism its favorite pastime (all at the expense of people getting hurt and even dying way prematurely) . A sexually illicit Nation cannot survive well, for it implodes on itself and leaves behind irreversible fallout .

Stick to Gods ways and you wont have suffer consequences for silly immature narcissistic decisions based on a feeding frenzy for hedonism at any cost.

What are you taking about man. I thought we were talking about nudism here. That goes to show how far off track you really are when you confuse nudism with hedonism. It confirms my last post that what God made beautiful you guys are calling dirty and vile. I wouldn't want this on anyone but you are probably tempted by inappropriate content too am I wrong?

Darkhorse · Jan 10, 2015

TheyCallMeDavid said:
Gods principles and morals for correct living have worked great up until our Post Modern Era kicked in and American went the way of secular Humanism so man could be his own authority and really mess up American Society as it is now from making sexual hedonism its favorite pastime.

Sexual hedonism? In my 40 years of nudism I haven't done anything more hedonistic than eating good food and dancing to good music. Does nude swimming count as sexual hedonism? Water volleyball? My family and I don't know anything about that stuff.

However, we do know that our favorite nudist club is having a "renewal of wedding vows" ceremony March 7:

http://whitetailresort.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/cal2015a.pdf

OGM · Jan 10, 2015

That's beautiful! Can't get much better than than a recommitment!!!

walk the talk · Jan 11, 2015

OGM said:
That's beautiful! Can't get much better than than a recommitment!!!

A nude recommitment😜

congrats black horse. We should re name you naked horse. Ok maybe that's going too far. Have a great day tomorrow at church dark horse

Blessings

By the way just got back from my naked swim. It was a blast as usual. Wonderful friends and good times.

peternat · Jan 11, 2015

poenah said:
I ask that question purposefully the way I ask it .Let me put it to you this way.Why should christians be nudists?
I am a christian born again and spirit filled with the evidence of speaking in tounges,yet I am a naturist/nudist.I too am a Pastor,and minister in the nude.I reason this way.Adam was intended to be naked,and he shared the presence of God in the nude.God had intended man to be naked,as He was mans covering.By God, righteousness and Glory was Adams covering in Eden,and he had no shyness nor shame.God was his covering.Adam became shy only once he lost his covering,and had to substitute it with fig leaves,and later animal skin.(provided by God Himself)This is a metaphor of the new federal head of mankind ,Satan.
Later the circumcision became mans covering,co linked with the law as his covering.The new testament declares that we died with Christ on the cross,and once again became covered by God,hanging naked on the cross.We died with him,was buried with him and resurrected with him.The body no longer becomes the instrument of shame,as the Bible declares That we have put on the new man made in the likeness of God,righteousness and glory(Ephes 4).Now the body becomes the temple of God and the dwelling place of God!The temples of Israel were never covered,but exhibited,and God dwelled in it.That was the seat of His presense.So it is with the body now.The body is Gods temple,covered by Christ,and indwelled by God....should it be hidden and covred?or should it be naked....

I can only agree with you on this matter. No more fig leaves, no more animal sacrifices, no more circumcision of the flesh, but circumcision of the heart. Covered in Christ righteousness, because He is all my righteousness.
Blessings in Christ
Peter

peternat · Jan 11, 2015

Thank you "Walk The Talk" May you have a blessed 2015 in the Lord Jesus Christ. Enjoy naturism with a clear conscience and love the Lord your God.
Peter

HermanNeutics13 · Mar 17, 2015

walk the talk said:
I don't mind what they think. What I do mind is telling me I am living in sin for enjoying the nudist lifestyle when they have no biblical foundation for their claims. I believe they are led to believe this lie the same as 80% or more of Christians and for that reason have a really hard time to wrap their minds around it. What the real injustice of it all is that since most christians do believe it is a sinful behaviour they fall into the trap of inappropriate content. If they didn't have a problem with nudity and they could see the beauty in the naked human form the way God ment it to be, the lie of inappropriate content would be revieled to them and there would be no more temptation. The church is at fault for that one and if you want to look even farther, satan. Without good nudity there is no gauge to base what is inappropriate content and what God made in his image becomes dirty and vile to them and that is where inappropriate content binds them without any way out. I believe we are meant to admire and respect the naked form and thank God for making us so darn beautiful. After that why in Gods name would you want inappropriate content??? The church caused the problem and dug themselves a hole so deep they don't know how to get out. God have mercy. That is all I can say. We just have to keep on showing them other guys the truth and hope they get it some day.

I know the verses that are used to oppose nudism, but they are used out of context. As for inappropriate content, I have actually heard of people getting over inappropriate content addiction by discovering nudism because they have now been able to separate simple nudity from sex. It is indeed a disservice to conflate the two and even to misinterpret what the Bible says about modesty.

toramei · Mar 18, 2015

Most people forget when GOD asked " who told you that you were naked? " the question was never answered.
My observation is that satan is having a great time with this destroying what GOD has made in his image.
Who are we listening to? GOD or ?

Dave-W · Mar 18, 2015

Towerbloke said:
I get the impression that you have come into this forum to provoke an argument.

Which would be the definition of an internet troll.

BL2KTN · Mar 18, 2015

Hopping in:

I agree completely that hiding parts of the human body and applying shame to them causes an unhealthy psychological impact. By making certain parts different and hidden, we cause people to covet their view, become obsessed with them, view them negatively, feel their parts are abnormal, etc. An excellent way of de-sexualizing the human body is to remove the sexual stigmas associated with it. Viewing the human body from a natural perspective greatly removes the allure of inappropriate contentography, as well as negative sexual body perceptions, and jealousy issues.

tgg · May 5, 2015

poenah said:
I ask that question purposefully the way I ask it .Let me put it to you this way.Why should christians be nudists?
I am a christian born again and spirit filled with the evidence of speaking in tounges,yet I am a naturist/nudist.I too am a Pastor,and minister in the nude.I reason this way.Adam was intended to be naked,and he shared the presence of God in the nude.God had intended man to be naked,as He was mans covering.By God, righteousness and Glory was Adams covering in Eden,and he had no shyness nor shame.God was his covering.Adam became shy only once he lost his covering,and had to substitute it with fig leaves,and later animal skin.(provided by God Himself)This is a metaphor of the new federal head of mankind ,Satan.
Later the circumcision became mans covering,co linked with the law as his covering.The new testament declares that we died with Christ on the cross,and once again became covered by God,hanging naked on the cross.We died with him,was buried with him and resurrected with him.The body no longer becomes the instrument of shame,as the Bible declares That we have put on the new man made in the likeness of God,righteousness and glory(Ephes 4).Now the body becomes the temple of God and the dwelling place of God!The temples of Israel were never covered,but exhibited,and God dwelled in it.That was the seat of His presense.So it is with the body now.The body is Gods temple,covered by Christ,and indwelled by God....should it be hidden and covred?or should it be naked....

Naked for the most part. Clothing is only really needed for warmth and protection. Jesus never condemned naturism.

A Catholic Friend · Jun 13, 2015

When is get to know a nudist day? I would like to find penpals who are ok with nudism.

Matthew Neal · Nov 19, 2015

Mister_Al said:
God will not strike you with a bolt of lightning for going nude. But He surely won't bless you for it either. If you're wondering why God never blesses you, you might want to consider your nudism.

Alan

Wow, Alan... that's quite a declaration. My experience has been exactly the opposite of what you have said I should expect.

I cannot count the ways that God has blessed me and my family once I rejected the false man-made nudity-taboo rules and embraced naturism. Even though I faced persecution and condemnation at the hands of well-meaning brothers in Christ, God actually used that persecution to open up doors of blessing that could never have come to me any other way. I'm now more keenly aware of God's voice in my spirit, God's calling on my life, and God's supernatural protection for me and my family than I ever was before I became a naturist.

I stand as a life in direct contradiction to your declaration.

For my statement on why I am a Naturist, I point you to this series of blog articles that I wrote:

Naturist By Biblical Conviction???

I've written a boatload of blog articles explaining how the Bible--when interpreted carefully according to our most conservative and trusted hermaneutical methodology--actually supports an open view of nudity and naturist practices.

The Biblical Naturist

I welcome any comments/questions/challenges.

Matthew Neal

bhsmte · Nov 21, 2015

I am curious, we have 3 separate threads on nudity.

What is with the infatuation with Christians and nudity?

Crowns&Laurels · Nov 21, 2015

Never in history has God fearing people ever practiced 'nudism'. What arrogant moral complex does a person have to be infatuated with it now, in an ever vain world where it is just a pointless then as it is now?

Hedonism is tricky- it is not always so simple as the direct definition. Getting carried away with an eccentric notion which harbors no real point is just as hedonistic as any other thing. The only thing that nudism will do is entice people if anything- a stumbling block, and for nothing.

So stick to the cotton.

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