Attending gay family members wedding...help!

JLR1300 · Apr 18, 2015

The Bible tells us to do what the government says but not when it contradicts the moral principles of God.

Have you ever heard of Daniel and the Lion's den? The King made a law that no one could pray to anyone but him. Daniel defied the King's law and continued to pray to God in public. So he was thrown into a den of Lions. The Bible praises Daniel for His stance.

Again, did you never hear of the Apostles? Peter was told by the governing authorities not to preach the Gospel or he would be put in prison and Peter said in Acts 5:29 "we must obey God rather than men".

So the idea that we have to go to a homosexual "marriage" because the government went against God's will and made it legal is the most ridiculous idea I have ever read on these boards. If some of you are going to quote the Bible you ought to at least have a clue of what the overall teachings are and not just quote a verse out of context.

katerinah1947 · Apr 18, 2015

Leslie735 said:
Bryan: Its not friends I'm concerned with it's just my husbands side of the family. Like I said, they are a close nit family, very close. Everyone is supportive but me, so I kinda go against the grain so if I don't go, I will be the black sheep of the family and I very much do not want that.

Dan: Thank you for your kind words. The only reason I'm considering going to this wedding is to support my husband and keep peace within my family. Its most defiantly not easy.

Katherinah1947: Thank your reply! My husband isn't supportive of the wedding but he is going to support his sister and show his love for her, same reasons I would be there. I considered not going but he would still go and I just don't know if I can do that to him.

Dear,
God is about love among other things. The reason I think, he put Civilian Laws in place for us to follow, and binding on all Christians, is to handle things that are not that clear.
People have shown us that much in the Bible when it gets down to items like Homosexuality may in fact not be moral but biological. Is it not possible that God decided to put in the Bible for us then, to have Romans 13:1-5, just for us to know how to handle these tough items.
It is hard for us all to handle things we don't know. You however like me, require not only a lot more, but God is too important to you to get it wrong, and no one seems to have done the work yet. The only apparent Bible verses seem to say: Yes. It is clear. God thinks this.
And yet when like in Galileo's case, when they were so certain Biblically that he was wrong, later they found out their translations of Scripture was in error.
Gay is becoming much like that. It is nothing in a relationship between them that is anymore about the act, than it is with humans having a relationship because of acts only.
When I have reviewed them, the most startling thing to me was what they wanted. They only want what every girl wants and what every boy wants. Each girl wants someone to love and someone to love them. Each boy wants the girl to be his promise of happiness.
Sure they do it within their own gender. Sure for them it is a stronger dominant woman looking for her promise of happiness in a totally normal woman in all ways, except she too for some reason, Falls In Love With Women. Sure for the guys it is the dominant guy looking for his promise of happiness in a less dominant guy as though he were a female in all ways except in body. Yet, in both relationships and in all of those that are that way, if it were not that both were females or both were males, those relationships are indistinguisable from normal male female relationships, in love. This is startling, but totally the case, for them.
God blessed us in Genesis with Subdue the earth. It is a command by God to do science. Science agrees, this is relational for them, not about perverse acts to us at all.
God told us to follow civilian laws. Civilian laws agree this is relational and not about a perversion.
God told us to follow our hearts and in love your husband wants to support her. If you ever find out this is about relationships only and not about acts,,, then you will follow your heart also, and support them as a couple.
God told us to follow our minds, and when my mind says: God I am supposed to follow you. And, God in doing that, I am supposed to follow science, and they say I am wrong in what I interpret Biblically just like those in 1616 were wrong about the sun. God, I am supposed to follow my heart, which aches at the thought of not loving them as people and now a couple, a married couple. God you told me to follow Civlian Laws and that not only do those come from you, but those civilian laws say marriage is fine with gays here. God what would you have me do, my will when Peter was called Satan by Jesus Christ one day for doing his own will, Peter's, or your will by following my mind, my heart, your science and your Civilian laws? Which would you have me do, apart from my own feelings? Which?
LOVE,
...Katie., .... .

pescador · Apr 18, 2015

JLR1300,

Why the strident tone? The fruit of the Spirit is "love joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control".

First of all there is no such thing as "the government". There are many governments (local, state, federal), and there are different branches within those governments. If you are referring in your mind to the Supreme Court decision regarding same-sex marriage, it says that spouses cannot be denied federal benefits if they are legally married in a state that recognizes same-sex marriage. The effect is that people cannot suffer legal discrimination if they are legally married. Do you favor discrimination? If so, which people do you think think should suffer discrimination, and why?

You shouldn't accuse people of not knowing what the Bible says and quoting verses out of context, then do the very same thing in your post. In Romans 13 Paul also said "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except by God’s appointment, and the authorities that exist have been instituted by God. So the person who resists such authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will incur judgment."

I assume that most of the people on this forum read the Bible and know what it says on many subjects. We all have our biblically-based thoughts and opinions and have no need to be lectured by you as though you are superior to us.

Honest Al · Apr 18, 2015

Leslie735 said:
Like I said, my mother in law and I are very close. I consider her a best friend. If I don't attend this wedding that relationship will be gone.

For me (and my wife), if keeping a friend (even one that is a relative) means not being able to live out my convictions (especially those that are important to me) then I guess I would have to say good-bye to the friendship.

(Like the one poster said: I feel bad for you in regard to what you said concerning your not going causing problems between you and your husband.)

We'll be praying for you to make the right decision. God Bless

P.S.--For what it's worth: my wife and I couldn't go.

JLR1300 · Apr 18, 2015

katerinah1947 said:
Dear,
God is about love among other things. The reason I think, he put Civilian Laws in place for us to follow, and binding on all Christians, is to handle things that are not that clear.
People have shown us that much in the Bible when it gets down to items like Homosexuality may in fact not be moral but biological. Is it not possible that God decided to put in the Bible for us then, to have Romans 13:1-5, just for us to know how to handle these tough items.
It is hard for us all to handle things we don't know. You however like me, require not only a lot more, but God is too important to you to get it wrong, and no one seems to have done the work yet. The only apparent Bible verses seem to say: Yes. It is clear. God thinks this.
And yet when like in Galileo's case, when they were so certain Biblically that he was wrong, later they found out their translations of Scripture was in error.
Gay is becoming much like that. It is nothing in a relationship between them that is anymore about the act, than it is with humans having a relationship because of acts only.
When I have reviewed them, the most startling thing to me was what they wanted. They only want what every girl wants and what every boy wants. Each girl wants someone to love and someone to love them. Each boy wants the girl to be his promise of happiness.
Sure they do it within their own gender. Sure for them it is a stronger dominant woman looking for her promise of happiness in a totally normal woman in all ways, except she too for some reason, Falls In Love With Women. Sure for the guys it is the dominant guy looking for his promise of happiness in a less dominant guy as though he were a female in all ways except in body. Yet, in both relationships and in all of those that are that way, if it were not that both were females or both were males, those relationships are indistinguisable from normal male female relationships, in love. This is startling, but totally the case, for them.
God blessed us in Genesis with Subdue the earth. It is a command by God to do science. Science agrees, this is relational for them, not about perverse acts to us at all.
God told us to follow civilian laws. Civilian laws agree this is relational and not about a perversion.
God told us to follow our hearts and in love your husband wants to support her. If you ever find out this is about relationships only and not about acts,,, then you will follow your heart also, and support them as a couple.
God told us to follow our minds, and when my mind says: God I am supposed to follow you. And, God in doing that, I am supposed to follow science, and they say I am wrong in what I interpret Biblically just like those in 1616 were wrong about the sun. God, I am supposed to follow my heart, which aches at the thought of not loving them as people and now a couple, a married couple. God you told me to follow Civlian Laws and that not only do those come from you, but those civilian laws say marriage is fine with gays here. God what would you have me do, my will when Peter was called Satan by Jesus Christ one day for doing his own will, Peter's, or your will by following my mind, my heart, your science and your Civilian laws? Which would you have me do, apart from my own feelings? Which?
LOVE,
...Katie., .... .

It is against the rules of the forum to promote homosexuality.

Tammy · Apr 18, 2015

Leslie735 said:
I'm not sure if this is the correct thread to post in so feel free to move it if need to be...

My sister in law (my husbands sister) is gay. I've known it for several years. She has been with her partner for quite some time. They recently became engaged about 6 months ago. They are planning a wedding (just became legal where I live a few months ago) for the end of the year. This is the struggle I have. I don't know what to do as far as attending their wedding? I was raised Baptist and believing gay marriage is wrong. My husbands family including my husband are accepting of their marriage whether they are happy for them or not. I'm just really struggling on what I should do because if I attend I feel I'm sinning and going against what God wants but if I don't attend I'm going to lose some very important people in my life and in the process hurt my marriage of 10 years. Another thing to make it complicated is my husband and I have 2 kids, they are young, 8 and 6, if I do decide to attend do I bring them along? My husband would be even more devastated if they didn't come. It's hard to go against your family along with your spouse. I'm so torn and upset. I have prayed, prayed, and prayed some more about this but just cannot come to a decision. I spoke with my former pastor and his advice was to pray and come to a decision that is between me and God. I guess my fear is if I attend the wedding will God discipline me for it? If I go and take my kids will their be consequences? Is God going to judge me about this. I'm just so upset and don't know what to do. Anyone have any advice?

ETA: I should add that everyone in the family, except my husband, are not very aware of how I feel. I have beat around the bush a little and they have some idea but not much. As far as they are concerned, I'm fine with it. My husband knows the truth and he supports me but I know if I don't actually go tot he wedding its going to cause problems between us.

Hello Leslie,
I can very much relate to what you are going through. Our oldest daughter recently married a woman. She knows we love her very much, but she also knows how much this hurts us...she didn't have a wedding...they just went to a JP. I'm sure she knows we never would have attended if they had had a wedding ceremony.

She and her partner are always welcome here in our home, but they know that if they stay over night, they sleep in two different bedrooms. I'm not about to compromise my conscience and my convictions to please my daughter or anyone else. I'm afraid that if your husbands family turns their back on you because you do not attend the wedding, then your relationship with them was NOT what you think it is. Anyone who will pressure someone to go against their conscience to keep peace in the family is NOT following the leading of the Lord.

I think this is a PRIME opportunity for you to TEACH your children to follow God NO MATTER WHAT others think and NO MATTER WHAT the consequences might be. Show them by your actions that you are not a BIGOT ~ that you will befriend their Aunt and her partner, but that you will NEVER compromise the TRUTH. This could be THE LESSON that sticks with them for life, and that will teach them to stand for principle....

A favorite quote of mine~ "The greatest want of the world is the want of men,--men who will not be bought or sold; men who in their inmost souls are true and honest; men who do not fear to call sin by its right name; men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole; men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall."
We will be praying for you....

JLR1300 · Apr 18, 2015

pescador said:
JLR1300,

Why the strident tone? The fruit of the Spirit is "love joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control".

First of all there is no such thing as "the government". There are many governments (local, state, federal), and there are different branches within those governments. If you are referring in your mind to the Supreme Court decision regarding same-sex marriage, it says that spouses cannot be denied federal benefits if they are legally married in a state that recognizes same-sex marriage. The effect is that people cannot suffer legal discrimination if they are legally married. Do you favor discrimination? If so, which people do you think think should suffer discrimination, and why?

You shouldn't accuse people of not knowing what the Bible says and quoting verses out of context, then do the very same thing in your post. In Romans 13 Paul also said "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except by Gods appointment, and the authorities that exist have been instituted by God. So the person who resists such authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will incur judgment."

I assume that most of the people on this forum read the Bible and know what it says on many subjects. We all have our biblically-based thoughts and opinions and have no need to be lectured by you as though you are superior to us.

Why do you consider not going to a ceremony which celebrates sin discrimination? That is strange.

The idea that since the government has made a law to allow something means that we must actively support it is nonsense. The government has made a law that says that abortion is legal. So does that mean that Christians have to have abortions? Do they have to march in parades which publicly celebrate it? That logic is the most unusual I have ever seen. I'm not just referring to what you said but the other person and her arguments.

And since you make a distinction between local governments and others... in Las Vegas the local government has made a law that makes prostitution legal. So do we have to go to prostitutes? Do we have to take part in ceremonies that celebrate prostitution?

Anyway it is always the case that when people want to sin they claim they are doing it because of Love.

People support abortion because they say that it is better to have abortion than for a baby to be born in a home where it isn't wanted. It needs a loving home.

In the south slave owners said that the blacks were unable to take care of themselves so it was more loving to keep them on the plantation and take care of them.

You can always justify a sin by saying that it is all about love. Prostitutes are just giving love to men who are single and don't have a wife to love them.

People just hide behind the excuse of love to justify something that they know is wrong.

katerinah1947 · Apr 18, 2015

JLR1300 said:
It is against the rules of the forum to promote homosexuality.

Hi,
I am pomoting homosexuality in no way.
You have jumpted to a conclusion.
I am however if you are asking me to pormote something, I am then promoting one thing and one thing only. It is to follow God and not men. I have always said that, after knowing the The Bible is Real. And after knowing from that work, that God is Real.
I am sorry you have misunderstood. In Galileo's time if one looks at the words only that were used to censor him, it very clearly and unfortunately says, they know precisely how to translate the Bible and Galileo is in conflict with the Scriptures in many places.
Now, do you know that within a Blessing by God, there is also a command in those words?
Do you now know if you understand God's Blessings where in Genesis and with what words God said to do science?
Do you know that God The Father is talked about in Psalms2 and also Jesus is talked about there? Do you know how to do that work? If you do then you know what I said about following God, is to follow all of God, and just not a part of God, poorly understood, like the sun revolves around the earth.
Also again, how can you say my words say I promote homosexuality? I don't promote it. I also don't hate what God does not hate.
LOVE,
...Katie., .... .

katerinah1947 · Apr 18, 2015

pescador said:
JLR1300,

Why the strident tone? The fruit of the Spirit is "love joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control".

First of all there is no such thing as "the government". There are many governments (local, state, federal), and there are different branches within those governments. If you are referring in your mind to the Supreme Court decision regarding same-sex marriage, it says that spouses cannot be denied federal benefits if they are legally married in a state that recognizes same-sex marriage. The effect is that people cannot suffer legal discrimination if they are legally married. Do you favor discrimination? If so, which people do you think think should suffer discrimination, and why?

You shouldn't accuse people of not knowing what the Bible says and quoting verses out of context, then do the very same thing in your post. In Romans 13 Paul also said "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except by Gods appointment, and the authorities that exist have been instituted by God. So the person who resists such authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will incur judgment."

I assume that most of the people on this forum read the Bible and know what it says on many subjects. We all have our biblically-based thoughts and opinions and have no need to be lectured by you as though you are superior to us.

Hi,
You have accused me of being strident. I will have to look up that word to see what it means. It is an accusation. You have accused me of lecturing. That has not taken place. Again it is an accusation. You have accused me of being superior in my actions. Again an accusation. All three of those accusations are incorrect, and if you try to say otherwise then it is merely you and your friends agreeing with you, rather than being objective and looking at what was really said.
Lets see what I said. I said to follow God in four separate ways and in a wondering way to a female, so that she could think on what I said. If she finds merit fine. If she finds I made and error fine. These are thoughts to contemplate and are not teaching, for in my case I am forbidden by God to teach, but I am asked by God to share my experiences and what I know of Him.
I know what God means in Romans 13:1-5. I know where the command to do science is. I know that God someplace in The Bible says He put his laws into our hearts. I know God defines love as doing the will of the one you love. I know God in many ways. I have been graced with a personal appearance from Him, and also a separate one from Jesus and The Holy Spirit, but that is not the issue here. Now what will you accuse me of. I have left doors open for you to accuse me some more here.
I am not allowed to teach. It is by God that command comes from. You have accused me of that also.
I have discussed really what I would follow and how I would follow God as God has laid that out in the Bible.
Would you have censored Galileo with the words they did? During the Inquistion if your church said to turn someone in to the authorities would you have done that. When Joan of Arc was killed, would you have supported that? And if you would do all of those things today, then yes I will continue to be accused by you.
LOVE,
...Katherine., .... .

katerinah1947 · Apr 18, 2015

JLR1300 said:
Why do you consider not going to a ceremony which celebrates sin discrimination? That is strange.

The idea that since the government has made a law to allow something means that we must actively support it is nonsense. The government has made a law that says that abortion is legal. So does that mean that Christians have to have abortions? Do they have to march in parades which publicly celebrate it? That logic is the most unusual I have ever seen. I'm not just referring to what you said but the other person and her arguments.

And since you make a distinction between local governments and others... in Las Vegas the local government has made a law that makes prostitution legal. So do we have to go to prostitutes? Do we have to take part in ceremonies that celebrate prostitution?

Anyway it is always the case that when people want to sin they claim they are doing it because of Love.

People support abortion because they say that it is better to have abortion than for a baby to be born in a home where it isn't wanted. It needs a loving home.

In the south slave owners said that the blacks were unable to take care of themselves so it was more loving to keep them on the plantation and take care of them.

You can always justify a sin by saying that it is all about love. Prostitutes are just giving love to men who are single and don't have a wife to love them.

People just hide behind the excuse of love to justify something that they know is wrong.

Hi,
I guess I will stop with you. I am not promoting a sin and for you to say that, is a gross missunderstanding of what I said. Look it up. Follow God in all ways, not just one. Follow all the things God has said, simultaneously, forgetting none if possible.
You have not understood what was told to you, and you are quite justified and correct in saying what you said, if in fact you understood me correctly. And you did not.
I just mentioned and to you in a diffrent way now, to kill those and torture those who listened to others during the Inquistion was wrong. To print those words in 1616 against Galileo was wrong. Print. To kill Joan of Arc was wrong.
To follow God where He blessed us in Genesis, with subdue the Earth is right. It is my command to do science and to listen to science. There is much more, and I follow all of those things.
You have misunderstood me much.
LOVE,
...Katherine., .... .

JLR1300 · Apr 18, 2015

Katherine...

If you go back to the original posts someone (Pescador) accused ME of being strident.... no one ever accused you of being strident. That is funny that that got so turned around. You quoted that and I guess you thought that was a quote from me. Pescador said that about me. Go back and see. Don't feel bad, I have made mistakes like that too.

Anyway here is what I think you are saying in your arguments.

1. Science has demonstrated that Homosexuality is just a biological issue rather than a sin.

2. In the past the Catholics burned Protestants at the stake... so that shows that the Chruch may be wrong about things.

3. The Catholic Church misunderstood a verse and thought that it meant that the world is the center of the solar system and so they condemned Gallileo. That shows that science is often right and the Christians are often wrong.

4. So very likely, in the case of Homosexuality, the Bible doesn't really teach that it is wrong... Christians just misunderstand all of those verses found in both the Old and New Testaments.

5. Therefore we should go to ceremonies that support the Homosexual lifestyle.

Is this really your arguement? Really?

First, the bible never said that the Catholic church was supposed to burn Protestants at the stake. They just took it upon themselves to do that. So that argument does not prove that we should support the homosexual lifestyle. That makes no sense.

2. Science makes mistakes constantly and has been wrong over and over about many many things so we shouldn't be too quick to discount the plain teaching of God's word.

3. Just because the Catholics tried to use a poetic verse about the sun rising and they used that verse to justify their hatred of a Gallileo... in no way proves that the many verses about homosexuality being evil are all misunderstood by all the Bible believing Christians today. That is quite a stretch.

It isn't just one verse in the Bible about homosexuality. There are many, many verses in both the old and new testaments about it being a complete sin and abomination and those scriptures are totally clear.

How can you in one breath imply that homosexuality may be okay because science says it is and in the next breath say that you are not promoting an acceptance of homosexuality?

katerinah1947 · Apr 18, 2015

Uh. No.

You wrote and these are some of my answers from just the top part of your post which I am a little confused by.

Katherine...

If you go back to the original posts someone (Pescador) accused ME of being strident.... no one ever accused you of being strident. That is funny that that got so turned around. You quoted that and I guess you thought that was a quote from me. Pescador said that about me. Go back and see. Don't feel bad, I have made mistakes like that too.

I take your observations as fact that I got it wrong with strident.

Anyway here is what I think you are saying in your arguments.

1. Science has demonstrated that Homosexuality is just a biological issue rather than a sin.
No. Science has demonstrated that Homosexuality is not only not choice but it is unchangeable in 100% of the cases they have worked on. If Science can prove that then we must listen to that as though it came from God, because He commanded us to do Science to subdue the earth. Thus God is saying if the science is correct that this no more a sin for them, than it would be for heterosexual couples to have sex and that is no sin. So, with all of that it is no sin, according to God.

2. In the past the Catholics burned Protestants at the stake... so that shows that the Chruch may be wrong about things.
In the past Catholicism has ignored science and punished people for doing science. This is not a Protestant Catholic thing. This as Religious item, as Religions are to follow proven science as is Commanded in Genesis, if they are Chistian.

3. The Catholic Church misunderstood a verse and thought that it meant that the world is the center of the solar system and so they condemned Gallileo. That shows that science is often right and the Christians are often wrong.
A. The Catholic Church misunderstood many verses. They said so. They misunderstood many verses about scientific matters, so not frequently as you said, but occasionally they are wrong, about Biblical items.

B. I have never seen Christians to be often wrong about science and that is no part of the point here.

4. So very likely, in the case of Homosexuality, the Bible doesn't really teach that it is wrong... Christians just misunderstand all of those verses found in both the Old and New Testaments.
A. According to all I have read from the homosexual group who are actually trying to be great Chrisitians they have plausibility to me that they have a case, of improperly translating things barring normal acts of homosexuals. As far as for very likely, I cannot say as I am no expert in their field. So very likely is not allowed by me.

5. Therefore we should go to ceremonies that support the Homosexual lifestyle.
No not based on that alone. One is if a person thinks they should not go and they think it is God's will for them not to go, then they must follow that. If a person knows also of Romans 13:1-5 and knows God commanded science and if a person has looked into the homosexual issue on their own and personally, then they should consider all they have learned and act on that.
God has us basically follow more laws than are in the Bible, science, our hearts, civilian laws, and maybe laws put into our minds. My point stands. When I have looked at all those considering a few religious errors in the past, it comes out higher in favor of letting homosexuals be.

LOVE,
...Katherine., .... .

revrobor · Apr 18, 2015

You will not be sinning if you attend. You will have some explaining to do to your children if you take them but perhaps not just yet. When they ask questions. What your sister-in-law is doing is Scripturally wrong but it is between her and God and He is the one who will judge them. If anyone asks you state your position. But otherwise at the wedding do not state your position.

Leslie735 · Apr 18, 2015

revrobor said:
You will not be sinning if you attend. You will have some explaining to do to your children if you take them but perhaps not just yet. When they ask questions. What your sister-in-law is doing is Scripturally wrong but it is between her and God and He is the one who will judge them. If anyone asks you state your position. But otherwise at the wedding do not state your position.

Thank you!

TravelerFarAwayFromHome · Apr 19, 2015

Leslie735 said:
I'm not sure if this is the correct thread to post in so feel free to move it if need to be...

My sister in law (my husbands sister) is gay. I've known it for several years. She has been with her partner for quite some time. They recently became engaged about 6 months ago. They are planning a wedding (just became legal where I live a few months ago) for the end of the year. This is the struggle I have. I don't know what to do as far as attending their wedding? I was raised Baptist and believing gay marriage is wrong. My husbands family including my husband are accepting of their marriage whether they are happy for them or not. I'm just really struggling on what I should do because if I attend I feel I'm sinning and going against what God wants but if I don't attend I'm going to lose some very important people in my life and in the process hurt my marriage of 10 years. Another thing to make it complicated is my husband and I have 2 kids, they are young, 8 and 6, if I do decide to attend do I bring them along? My husband would be even more devastated if they didn't come. It's hard to go against your family along with your spouse. I'm so torn and upset. I have prayed, prayed, and prayed some more about this but just cannot come to a decision. I spoke with my former pastor and his advice was to pray and come to a decision that is between me and God. I guess my fear is if I attend the wedding will God discipline me for it? If I go and take my kids will their be consequences? Is God going to judge me about this. I'm just so upset and don't know what to do. Anyone have any advice?

ETA: I should add that everyone in the family, except my husband, are not very aware of how I feel. I have beat around the bush a little and they have some idea but not much. As far as they are concerned, I'm fine with it. My husband knows the truth and he supports me but I know if I don't actually go tot he wedding its going to cause problems between us.

there was a thread posted under Christian advice section, where the person was asking about whether he or she should attend a Hindu wedding.

most responded seem to be fine with it

that say, if you have a conscience issue then don't go.

anyway, my concern is whether you love your sister in law with the love of Christ or not.

but don't take it the extreme. for example, don't start not inviting your sister in law and partner to your house, don't put a barrier between them and your kids.

your kids live in the real world, they will come into non Christians everyday who are sinning in one way or another.

your job is to teach and guide them on what is right and wrong, not to isolate them from this world, or teach them indirectly to look down or hate sinners.

if you do so, you are not raising them in the example set by our Lord

Jesus Himself does not approve of sins, but He loves them, He eat with them, He cares about them

but it is your call, you can destroy your marriage, hurt your sister in law and her partner, and raise two children who will grow up to like Pharisees, full of hatred and disdain for those who sins, while neglected to have a good look at themselves, they were the people Jesus were most angry with.

TravelerFarAwayFromHome · Apr 19, 2015

revrobor said:
You will not be sinning if you attend. You will have some explaining to do to your children if you take them but perhaps not just yet. When they ask questions. What your sister-in-law is doing is Scripturally wrong but it is between her and God and He is the one who will judge them. If anyone asks you state your position. But otherwise at the wedding do not state your position.

yes, God will indeed judge them but what is yours and mine responsibility?

would you care to tell me?

Jesus come to save, not to condemn.

He eats and spend time with sinners, show them true love, how about you and I start doing the same?

JLR1300 · Apr 21, 2015

Katerinah...

Here is what you say...

"Science has demonstrated that Homosexuality is not only not choice but it is unchangeable in 100% of the cases they have worked on. If Science can prove that then we must listen to that as though it came from God, because He commanded us to do Science to subdue the earth. Thus God is saying if the science is correct that this no more a sin for them, than it would be for heterosexual couples to have sex and that is no sin. So, with all of that it is no sin, according to God. "

Yet, here is what God says... Romans 1:26 "For this reason God gave them up to VILE passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is AGAINST NATURE. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their list for one another, men with men committing what is SHAMEFUL, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due." (The New Testament inspired by the Holy Spirit)

"If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination." (Leviticus 20:13).

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. Nor shall you mate with any animal, to defile yourself with it. Nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it. It is perversion. ‘Do not defile yourselves with any of these things; for by all these the nations are defiled, which I am casting out before you." (Leviticus 18:22-24).

So the Old Testament calls it an abomination and the New Testament calls it vile and unnatural.

Dan61861 · Apr 22, 2015

JLR1300 said:
Katerinah...

Here is what you say...

"Science has demonstrated that Homosexuality is not only not choice but it is unchangeable in 100% of the cases they have worked on. If Science can prove that then we must listen to that as though it came from God, because He commanded us to do Science to subdue the earth. Thus God is saying if the science is correct that this no more a sin for them, than it would be for heterosexual couples to have sex and that is no sin. So, with all of that it is no sin, according to God. "

Yet, here is what God says... Romans 1:26 "For this reason God gave them up to VILE passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is AGAINST NATURE. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their list for one another, men with men committing what is SHAMEFUL, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due." (The New Testament inspired by the Holy Spirit)

"If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination." (Leviticus 20:13).

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. Nor shall you mate with any animal, to defile yourself with it. Nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it. It is perversion. Do not defile yourselves with any of these things; for by all these the nations are defiled, which I am casting out before you." (Leviticus 18:22-24).

So the Old Testament calls it an abomination and the New Testament calls it vile and unnatural.

Can I ask you, how can they see the light if we hide the light from them?

In Christ
Daniel

RileyG · Apr 22, 2015

If it is truly gnawing at your conscience, do not attend. You have a right to not participate in someone's choice.

God Bless

JLR1300 · Apr 22, 2015

Dan61861 said:
Can I ask you, how can they see the light if we hide the light from them?

In Christ
Daniel

Answer.... we cannot be forgiven of our sins until first we admit that we are sinning. We have to preach the law before the gospel makes sense. As long as people are claiming that they are not sinning they cannot be forgiven for their sins.

First Americans need to know what the Law of God teaches. It teaches what things are sins. Then once we know and admit that those things are sins, then and only then, can we come to Jesus, admitting we are sinning and praying for His mercy on us.

It won't do us any good to tell sinners to go to Jesus for mercy until first we show them and convince them by the law that they are sinning.

The only way a homosexual can be forgiven of sin is first to hear God's law teaching that homosexual acts are sin and then acknowledge and confess that he is sinning. At that point he is ready to come to Jesus for mercy. The idea that we just love the sinner and offer him forgiveness without first convincing him that he is sinning is unbiblical. Read the book of Romans. Paul spends the first three chapters proving to people that they are evil. Only then does he explain the gospel to them. People have to be lost before they can be saved.

I know many people think that if you just are loving enough, and just act like homosexuals are totally fine just like they are, you will win them to Christ. It is like a man driving toward a bridge that is out and thinking to yourself "I don't want to tell him that the direction he is going is wrong because that might offend him and it will sound unloving. So I will just tell him that God loves him and let him keep driving in the direction he is going." That's a mistake.

I'm not saying that on the very same day we couldn't tell someone of both the law and the Gospel. But we need to be sure that we explain what sin is... not just what the Gospel is. To those who are humble and admit quickly that they are sinning we can quickly move on to the Gospel. But to those who are Proud like the Pharisees and are refusing to admit that their behavior is sinful, we have to spend much more time on the Law. There is no hope for them until they admit that they are sinning.

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