Seriously, why are you wasting time debating pieces of theology when the world is rotting with wickedness? We all have the same understanding of Jesus being our Savior and of being good. So why do we fight with each other over incidentals? The time is now extremely short and we should be working together to prepare for His coming. We need to stand up for morality TOGETHER! Now is the time! Our society kills its unborn children, allows all kinds of horrible drugs, promotes gay sex, shows filth on every media outlet, inappropriate contentography is rampant, lying and deceiving is in all business and government, Christians are being slaughtered, and it goes on and on. Please my fellow brothers and sisters, we dont have time to squabble with each other. We only have time to band together and stand up for our God. Time is so short.
Why all the debate? We don't have time for it
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TasteForTruth
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I agree that we ought to spend our energy leveraging our commonalities for the betterment of the world.
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A month or so ago, I might have agreed with you. Most of those "pieces of theology" people fight over really aren't all that important...and God's gonna do it His way, anyhow, no matter what we might think about it.
And then I ran into a brick wall...
Tell me, have you ever heard of "henotheism"?
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Theology costs me money - the books I've ordered are expensive - usually because they are not sold in any great numbers. There is a huge order which I might cancel, I probably have at least two years on me to decide. I've been discussing that in Christian Scriptures: whom to trust is as important as having faith, as important as having money left over.
But what good would my money do so that I could stand up for morality in a better way than I do?
I don't know whether many would listen to me regarding morality, perhaps even fewer than when it comes to theology. Young adults don't seem to care about my opinion.
I'm not yet highly educated, so few will listen to me. Also I'm not old enough that people would listen to me because of my age and I don't desire to age quickly.
I agree that morality is very important, but is there anything I can do? I'm not for all contraception methods. I'm against gay marriage. I don't need entertainment, I don't have a real stereo and I've never had a TV in my own home. Christians being slaughtered is a serious issue as well as the other issues You bring up which I have nothing to do with.
I would add that eating pork is forbidden (pigs are intelligent animals with feelings) and that we should eat less meat and consume less hot water and fossil fuels. In addition to that it's important to take care of ones health.
Jas 1:26f:
If anyone thinks he is religious but does not bridle his tongue, he is deceiving himself; that mans religion is futile. A pure and faultless religion in the sight of God the Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in trouble and to keep oneself untarnished by the world. (2002 REB):
But what good would my money do so that I could stand up for morality in a better way than I do?
I don't know whether many would listen to me regarding morality, perhaps even fewer than when it comes to theology. Young adults don't seem to care about my opinion.
I'm not yet highly educated, so few will listen to me. Also I'm not old enough that people would listen to me because of my age and I don't desire to age quickly.
I agree that morality is very important, but is there anything I can do? I'm not for all contraception methods. I'm against gay marriage. I don't need entertainment, I don't have a real stereo and I've never had a TV in my own home. Christians being slaughtered is a serious issue as well as the other issues You bring up which I have nothing to do with.
I would add that eating pork is forbidden (pigs are intelligent animals with feelings) and that we should eat less meat and consume less hot water and fossil fuels. In addition to that it's important to take care of ones health.
Jas 1:26f:
If anyone thinks he is religious but does not bridle his tongue, he is deceiving himself; that mans religion is futile. A pure and faultless religion in the sight of God the Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in trouble and to keep oneself untarnished by the world. (2002 REB):
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There is a handful of Mormons who are dedicated to posting here; are you asking them to stop?
I stand up for my God daily.
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Every single christian has to ask the question, if GOD is not the author of confusion, then why is christianity so hopelessley divided? Answer: the bible is not consistant. Why? Most of the bible is not scripture and not all scripture can be found in the bible. Resolve the scripture issue and solve the problem of confusion. Only the saints produced scripture.
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John 2
23 Now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Festival, many people saw the signs he was performing and believed in his name. 24 But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people. 25 He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person.
He didn't need their testimony and doesn't need ours. He already knows. They were eye witnesses to his works, but Jesus knew something they didn't. What did he say in the very next chapter? They would be born again; resurrected; dry bones living again; rebirth; dew in the morning, and so on.
We have existed from the beginning. We have been here since the beginning. We're the only ones who don't know this fact. You have been born again and again and again. Salvation from this does not come until the end.
1 Peter 3
This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, 5 who through faith are shielded by God’s power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.
Our inheritance is not ready to be revealed until the end. There are still 1000 years left. They mystery in theology we uncover today will open the eyes of future generations. Those generations are you and I in another life tomorrow. It's important we get it right today.
23 Now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Festival, many people saw the signs he was performing and believed in his name. 24 But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people. 25 He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person.
He didn't need their testimony and doesn't need ours. He already knows. They were eye witnesses to his works, but Jesus knew something they didn't. What did he say in the very next chapter? They would be born again; resurrected; dry bones living again; rebirth; dew in the morning, and so on.
We have existed from the beginning. We have been here since the beginning. We're the only ones who don't know this fact. You have been born again and again and again. Salvation from this does not come until the end.
1 Peter 3
This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, 5 who through faith are shielded by God’s power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.
Our inheritance is not ready to be revealed until the end. There are still 1000 years left. They mystery in theology we uncover today will open the eyes of future generations. Those generations are you and I in another life tomorrow. It's important we get it right today.
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I do not consider it a waste of time to obey Jesus.
Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
1 Pe_3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
2Ti_4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
Gal_6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
1 Pe_3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
2Ti_4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
Gal_6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
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Ah... this is a discussion forum. It operates on a timeless basis. Gotta be patient.Evidently, everything is about Mormons lately.
I started a thread...no one has cared to try to answer me yet, though
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Ironic that this post will likely continue debate here, the opposite of the OP's intent.
Answer: sound doctrine is also important.
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2 Tim 4
I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: 2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with [a]great patience and instruction. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.
Nuff said. However, do notice that the rebuke, reprove, and exhort should be done with GREAT patience and instruction. This is something that is frequently lacking in this particular forum.
I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: 2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with [a]great patience and instruction. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.
Nuff said. However, do notice that the rebuke, reprove, and exhort should be done with GREAT patience and instruction. This is something that is frequently lacking in this particular forum.
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