Why Should Women not be Permitted to go Topless in Public?

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With the arrival of warm weather in the US, we again face the double standard of allowing men, but--in most places--not allowing women to go topless in public. Why not?

Would those who are opposed to women going topless in public please address the following:

1). At no place in Scripture are women forbidden from going topless in public.

2). 1 Timothy 2:9 tells us that women are to “dress modestly,” however “modestly” is defined as “adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes.” Going topless is never mentioned. Nudity was actually much more common in Biblical times.

3). Romans 14:13 tells us not to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother, but the allure of female breasts would diminish if women would regularly go topless in places where men commonly go topless. In addition we allow men to go topless in America(something that was illegal less than 100 years ago) with no concern that they might be placing a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of women.

4). Even if Scripture did forbid women from going topless, the US is a secular nation.

5). Men obviously can handle seeing women go topless because women regularly do so in many parts of the world.

6). If we are "created equal," how can we allow men to go without a shirt in public without allowing women to do the same?
 

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Because men are dogs and can't control their lust.
That line of thinking is straight from the Afgani Teleban which jailed and/or killed shepherds who did not put diapers on their female sheep. (reminded them of women's genitals causing them to lust)
 
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Because men are dogs and can't control their lust.

Perhaps, but if that is the case shouldn't we arrest men who stare rather than women who go topless?
 
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That line of thinking is straight from the Afgani Teleban which jailed and/or killed shepherds who did not put diapers on their female sheep. (reminded them of women's genitals causing them to lust)

The comment was 100% tongue in cheek. That said, that *type* of thinking is EXACTLY why women going topless in public is seen as a sort of taboo. The exact thinking.
 
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shouldn't we arrest men who stare rather than women who go topless?

Only if you are ready and willing to arrest women who stare at the bulge in a man's pants .....
 
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I would be totally fine with not allowing men to go topless. Equal rights for all. If the secular government can tell us what we must wear while operating our private vehicles to keep us from endangering ourselves or what substances we can put in our own bodies while in private establishments for our own good and the good of others that have voluntarily entered those establishments then it can surely tell us what we must wear while we traverse public streets for the same reasons. Going topless is a health risk as it exposes more skin to the rays of the sun which leads to increased instances of skin cancer which then becomes a burden on the health care system raising prices for all in order to accommodate the reckless behavior of a very few. At present only males are being an extra burden on the health care system by acting in this manner but wouldn't it be wonderful to bring both sexes into compliance with proper preventative measures for better health
 
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Insurance companies would never let it happen. Safety. Auto insurance rates would skyrocket due to all the distracted driving accidents.


Do insurance companies really care if their rates skyrocket? I highly doubt it.
 
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No. What they DO care about is whether their pay-outs skyrocket or not.

Not if the payouts are industry wide. A single insurance company would be concerned if the payouts were relegated to their own company but that would not be the case in your hypothetical situation of upper torso nudity causing more accidents. Since their product is mandatory by law for purchase by everyone that wishes to use a motor vehicle on the public thoroughfare, there is no elasticity to demand so all they need to do to cover increased payouts is to increase prices. The public will pay or not drive. And the public is not disposed to give up their automobile.
 
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All true. But there is another dynamic at work here. Time.

Without a substantial demonstrable increase in pay-outs, state insurance commissions will not allow across the board rate hikes. So there remains a gap of several moths to a year or 2 where they are losing money waiting for the new rates to kick in. IMO they would find that unacceptable.

I am sure you heard about State Farm trying to pull out of Florida after hurricanes Rita and Wilma back in '05?
 
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All true. But there is another dynamic at work here. Time.

Without a substantial demonstrable increase in pay-outs, state insurance commissions will not allow across the board rate hikes. So there remains a gap of several moths to a year or 2 where they are losing money waiting for the new rates to kick in. IMO they would find that unacceptable.

I am sure you heard about State Farm trying to pull out of Florida after hurricanes Rita and Wilma back in '05?

What you describe fits the profile I mentioned of when a company would be concerned i.e. when the payouts are not industry wide and when there is elastic demand. Notice that State Farm's solurtion was not to attempt to outlaw hurricanes but to pull out of the areas where hurricanes occurred that caused them to pay out amounts they were not able to pay out in a reasonable amount of time . If one area were to become inundated with fatalities and property damage in the multi millions in the course of a week due to accidents caused by upper body nudity I'm sure that insurance companies would prefer to do their auto and life insurance business in other areas of the country.
 
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