Can the Sabbath be separated from the other nine commandments?

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No, nothing you said was rude as far as I'm concerned. My post was in response to all the rejection and denial of truth without all the facts. It's like they deny for the sake of denying. I guess I have to expect it because God did day this would happen in the last days.
Truth always matter maco. Who should provide facts to your truth?Your post is in response to questions about your so-called facts and so-called truth.

In post #18 You injected yourself into a dialog I was having with Devorim:

You shot out 10 bullets and I asked you to clarify just the first 1. Here are the facts.

Originally Posted by Cribstyl to Devorim
Psstt, most of America have off days on Saturdays and Sundays. How much bucking do you have to do to keep the Sabbath?
maco said:
People can have Saturday off and still not be honoring the Sabbath. (#1.)Honoring the Sabbath is about understanding what it represents. (#2)It's about allowing the seventh day of creation to strengthen our belief in a God who created all things. (#3)It's about pondering all that God has done for us through creation and continues to do for us. (#4)It's about experiencing a little piece of God's eternal kingdom in this temporary age. (#5)It's about being a light to a dying world. (#6)It's about standing up for God and His ways over the ways of man. (#7)It's about living by faith. (#8)It's about trusting the promises of God. (#9)It's about being set apart for God as His people. (#10)Unbelievers, as well as, some believers have Saturday off and could careless about the seventh day being blessed and made holy by God as part of creation itself or that Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath.
You put out all this information about the Sabbath and when you're asked for supporting scriptures on 1 of 10 You feel insulted??? Claiming that honoring the Sabbath is living by faith, should require an explanation, don't you think? Claiming that Sabbath is the light of a dying world also appear to contradict Jesus. Jhn 9:5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.

I gave you the benefit to explain the scriptures that supports your comments.
From reading and then questioning your threads and posts, I always called your follow up responses RUNNING AWAY. (you never answer what you're asked)
Bottom line is this: You're getting unglued and emotional and unable to prove your statements as bible truths.

Remember, My only challenge to you was to explain the #1 bullet which is: Honoring the Sabbath is about understanding what it represents.
 
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Post #33 was your follow-up to my request for clarification of your bullet #1
(#1.)Honoring the Sabbath is about understanding what it represents.

This will be my last reply to your comments. The Spirit of God will give you understanding to your question through this verse.

Ezekiel 20:9-12 But I acted for My name’s sake, that it should not be profaned before the Gentiles among whom they were, in whose sight I had made Myself known to them, to bring them out of the land of Egypt. “Therefore I made them go out of the land of Egypt and brought them into the wilderness. And I gave them My statutes and showed them My judgments, ‘which, if a man does, he shall live by them.’ Moreover I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between them and Me, that they might know that I am the Lord who sanctifies them.

Honoring the Sabbath is a lot more than abstaining from burning calories.

Honoring the Sabbath is one way of identifying yourself as God's people. In the last days, honoring the seventh day Sabbath will be like wearing an American flag on your shirt in Iraq.

Does these scripture explain: (#1.)Honoring the Sabbath is about understanding what it represents.

These scriptures actually explains that because they profaned His name coming out of Egypt. They were rerouted into the wilderness and given laws and the Sabbath.


maco, I actually see where you're coming from with this response to bullet #1. Honoring the Sabbath and the law does represent honoring the creator. Sorry, if you think I'm giving you a hard time.(but you're not making yourself clear)
 
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Truth always matter maco. Who should provide facts to your truth?Your post is in response to questions about your so-called facts and so-called truth.

In post #18 You injected yourself into a dialog I was having with Devorim:

You shot out 10 bullets and I asked you to clarify just the first 1. Here are the facts.

You put out all this information about the Sabbath and when you're asked for supporting scriptures on 1 of 10 You feel insulted??? Claiming that honoring the Sabbath is living by faith, should require an explanation, don't you think? Claiming that Sabbath is the light of a dying world also appear to contradict Jesus. Jhn 9:5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.

I gave you the benefit to explain the scriptures that supports your comments.
From reading and then questioning your threads and posts, I always called your follow up responses RUNNING AWAY. (you never answer what you're asked)
Bottom line is this: You're getting unglued and emotional and unable to prove your statements as bible truths.

Remember, My only challenge to you was to explain the #1 bullet which is: Honoring the Sabbath is about understanding what it represents.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7872077-4/#post67227607
 
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In reference to the OP's question; whether the Sabbath can be separated from the other 9 commandments.
These scriptures below appear to explain how the law was given to show God's rules and judgment against sin, and that Sabbath (spoken of separately) was given as a sign.

Ezekiel 20:9-12 But I acted for My name’s sake, that it should not be profaned before the Gentiles among whom they were, in whose sight I had made Myself known to them, to bring them out of the land of Egypt. “Therefore I made them go out of the land of Egypt and brought them into the wilderness. And I gave them My statutes and showed them My judgments, ‘which, if a man does, he shall live by them.’ Moreover I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between them and Me, that they might know that I am the Lord who sanctifies them.

God's actions for His name not be profaned, was to them the wilderness route and give them the laws and the Sabbath.
This appear to coincide squarely with Paul declaration about why the law was given:
Gal 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
 
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I totally agree with this logic. See, there is an Adventist cult out there, that Christians are calling lazy. The one reason is because they don't want to follow all the laws of the Old Testament, just the ones that don't involve any work. Worshipping one day a week regardless of what day it is is simple, especially if it involves a weekend. Keeping it on Saturday is OK, but they don't do any of the other work. There is a preparation for the Sabbath, no members can work that day (so forget law and medical personnel), and feasts. Judaism had to maintain them all in order to please God. But this cult does not do anything but the Sabbath. Heck, they don't even do the all day preparation for it the day before. The Jews still do, but it is to much work for a cult. They only do what is easy for them. Cults like this one are spreading. They are easy to spot, because of the church laziness. Gal. 3:19 clearly states that there is no more need, and the verse which where Paul is talking about the seed can be found in Gen. 3:15. And that seed is and was Jesus. Plus remember Jesus' last warning to man found in Rev. 22:19, if any one take away from this book, their names are taken out of the Book of Life. So if you want to keep the Sabbath holy as it was in the days of old, and still is in Judaism, then don't take out the parts that make people lazy.
 
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I totally agree with this logic. See, there is an Adventist cult out there, that Christians are calling lazy. The one reason is because they don't want to follow all the laws of the Old Testament, just the ones that don't involve any work. Worshipping one day a week regardless of what day it is is simple, especially if it involves a weekend. Keeping it on Saturday is OK, but they don't do any of the other work. There is a preparation for the Sabbath, no members can work that day (so forget law and medical personnel), and feasts. Judaism had to maintain them all in order to please God. But this cult does not do anything but the Sabbath. Heck, they don't even do the all day preparation for it the day before. The Jews still do, but it is to much work for a cult. They only do what is easy for them. Cults like this one are spreading. They are easy to spot, because of the church laziness. Gal. 3:19 clearly states that there is no more need, and the verse which where Paul is talking about the seed can be found in Gen. 3:15. And that seed is and was Jesus. Plus remember Jesus' last warning to man found in Rev. 22:19, if any one take away from this book, their names are taken out of the Book of Life. So if you want to keep the Sabbath holy as it was in the days of old, and still is in Judaism, then don't take out the parts that make people lazy.

Why do you gather for sacred assembly on Sunday?
 
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1 Cor. 16:2 says to pay your tithes the first day of the week, not the last. We do not go on Saturdays, because we do not celebrate the Passover for one, and Jesus was still dead on that day. No victory yet. The victory came early Sunday morning, with the words that we say every Easter, "He is risen!!!"
 
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Play poker. Why do you ask? Want to join us for some fun? Really what do you think we do? Sacrifice a virgin on the altar? Give us a break dude. We worship the Creator.

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You didn't answer my question. Why do you gather for sacred assembly on Sunday?
 
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1 Cor. 16:2 says to pay your tithes the first day of the week, not the last. We do not go on Saturdays, because we do not celebrate the Passover for one, and Jesus was still dead on that day. No victory yet. The victory came early Sunday morning, with the words that we say every Easter, "He is risen!!!"

Your whole reply shows a heavy influence of the Beast. Remember what God said? He said the Beast would change His times and law and if anyone worships the Beast they would drink of the wrath of God. If you really want to know the truth watch my videos.

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Your whole reply shows a heavy influence of the Beast. Remember what God said? He said the Beast would change His times and law and if anyone worships the Beast they would drink of the wrath of God. If you really want to know the truth watch my videos.


what kind of comment is this? maco's comment in red.
 
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Paul said in Rom 14:5, it is up to the person, there goes a set day for Sab..

Do you really think Paul was equating the seventh day Sabbath with the opinions of weak believers? Do you really think Paul was saying to set aside any day you want to gather for sacred assembly? Do you really think just about the whole world came in agreement that the seventh day is out and the first day is in? You really need to watch my videos.
 
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Your whole reply shows a heavy influence of the Beast. Remember what God said? He said the Beast would change His times and law and if anyone worships the Beast they would drink of the wrath of God. If you really want to know the truth watch my videos.


what kind of comment is this? maco's comment in red.

If you really feel that you're in the dark and have no clue as to what my comment means then you really need to watch my videos.
 
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Do you really think Paul was equating the seventh day Sabbath with the opinions of weak believers? Do you really think Paul was saying to set aside any day you want to gather for sacred assembly? Do you really think just about the whole world came in agreement that the seventh day is out and the first day is in? You really need to watch my videos.

he said let each man decide in his own mind, that would also include the strong, both were mentioned in Rom 14, besides, the weak are still allowed to pick a day too.
 
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If you really feel that you're in the dark and have no clue as to what my comment means then you really need to watch my videos.

promotion? Is that all that matters, promotion of the SDA doctrine here? Is our form a billboard to advertise on?
 
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Do you really think Paul was equating the seventh day Sabbath with the opinions of weak believers? Do you really think Paul was saying to set aside any day you want to gather for sacred assembly? Do you really think just about the whole world came in agreement that the seventh day is out and the first day is in? You really need to watch my videos.

why did you mention the beast to a member here?
 
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