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Considering Joan of Arc, I'm not sure I believe that argument.
Puhleeeeeeeeeeeeeze. Couldn't have a serious response?
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Mississippi killing: Teenage girl doused with lighter fluid and set ablaze
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Puhleeeeeeeeeeeeeze. Couldn't have a serious response?
Considering Joan of Arc, I'm not sure I believe that argument.
Joan of Arc was executed in a Medieval punishment, for fighting England in the Hundred Years War. Not many burning executions on behalf of medieval Kings happen nowadays.
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Psychologists have noted that it is indeed a very personal, painful way to cause someone's death.
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Another week, another $10,000 added to the reward ... but no new information on the killer(s) it seems.
ATF adds $10,000 to reward for information in Jessica Chambers investigation | WREG.com
ATF adds $10,000 to reward for information in Jessica Chambers investigation | WREG.com
The ATF has just added $10,000, which raises the reward to $53,000.
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Jessica Chambers missed her 20th birthday. Jessica Chambers’ birthday sparks push for information on murder case | WREG.com
Jessica would be turning 20-years-old on Monday.
Family & Friends Gather For Jessica Chambers' 20th Birthday - WHBQ FOX 13The holidays have gone by and now Jessica's birthday; her family has gone weeks with no word on who killed her.
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The Jackson Clarion Ledger posted a very moving article from an interview with the mother of Jessica Chambers.
Jessica Chambers: Mom talks about her last moments and her fears | Jackson Clarion Ledger
Jessica Chambers: Mom talks about her last moments and her fears | Jackson Clarion Ledger
She summoned the courage to walk into Jessica's hospital room, having been told her 19-year-old daughter was burned beyond recognition. But Daugherty knew her little girl when she saw her, and she knew she had to give her permission to let go.
"You could see the monitor and her heart was still beating, and they had her on intubation and stuff. I put my arm up on her shoulder and leaned over, and felt her neck, it wasn't burned. I said, 'Jessica, it's OK, Baby, Mama's here, and Daddy's in the waiting room. You know your daddy — he's a big, old baby and he can't come in here, but he's here. And we love you,' " she said.
"And I just looked at her and said, 'I know you're in pain, Baby, if you want to go, you can go.' And she took her last breath."
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In her grief, Daugherty has found it hard to connect with people. She said people will tell her they're praying for her, then leave as quickly as they came. None of Jessica's friends come around the house anymore, she said. One neighbor came by shortly after Jessica's death to say she'd seen her that night but hasn't spoken to Daugherty since.
While the world moves on, Daugherty remains in the time before Dec. 6.
"I'm still stuck back there when everybody else is moving forward, I'm still back there. I want to talk about it all the time. I don't care who you are, I want to talk about her. Good bad or ugly, it doesn't matter," she said. "Other people are like, 'You need to kind of, for your own sake, stop talking about her so much.' No, for my sake, I need to talk about her. I'm not going to shut up. If you don't want to hear it, stay away."
"You could see the monitor and her heart was still beating, and they had her on intubation and stuff. I put my arm up on her shoulder and leaned over, and felt her neck, it wasn't burned. I said, 'Jessica, it's OK, Baby, Mama's here, and Daddy's in the waiting room. You know your daddy — he's a big, old baby and he can't come in here, but he's here. And we love you,' " she said.
"And I just looked at her and said, 'I know you're in pain, Baby, if you want to go, you can go.' And she took her last breath."
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In her grief, Daugherty has found it hard to connect with people. She said people will tell her they're praying for her, then leave as quickly as they came. None of Jessica's friends come around the house anymore, she said. One neighbor came by shortly after Jessica's death to say she'd seen her that night but hasn't spoken to Daugherty since.
While the world moves on, Daugherty remains in the time before Dec. 6.
"I'm still stuck back there when everybody else is moving forward, I'm still back there. I want to talk about it all the time. I don't care who you are, I want to talk about her. Good bad or ugly, it doesn't matter," she said. "Other people are like, 'You need to kind of, for your own sake, stop talking about her so much.' No, for my sake, I need to talk about her. I'm not going to shut up. If you don't want to hear it, stay away."
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I'm shocked that anyone would dare tell this mother how she should be grieving or handling this horror. Shame on anyone who's told her to get over it or stop talking about it or anything of that sort. Idiots. She's still Jessica's mother. Her status as a mother didn't change when her child died. Freakin' morons.
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Similarly, I did not understand how she could have relatives, friends, acquaintances or even visitors from the church who wouldn't be willing to simply stay and listen to her. Just the internalization of feelings about failing as a parent to raise a child to reach adulthood must be immense. Jessica got in with a bad crowd and never managed to extract herself. The interview is clear that both Jessica and her mother knew she was in danger.
The tears I've shed as a parent are many but I'm sure nowhere near those shed by Jessica's mother.
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There was a local girl here who was killed in a car accident on her way to school a few winters ago. The girls still keep up on her facebook page, and I was talking to her mom not too long ago and they come over to the house all the time, have dinner, go sit by her briefly at basketball games, etc. They haven't forgotten about her at all...
When I was in high school and we lost one of our friends, we stayed in contact with her parents until we all graduated.
I just find it odd that her friends would just quit like that.
When I was in high school and we lost one of our friends, we stayed in contact with her parents until we all graduated.
I just find it odd that her friends would just quit like that.
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DA: One hour of the day Jessica Chambers was murdered remains unaccounted for | WREG.com
PANOLA COUNTY, Miss. Investigators dont yet know where Jessica Chambers was for about one hour on the night she was murdered, District Attorney John Champion revealed Tuesday.
Champion released more details Tuesday than ever before about where Chambers was on the day someone lit her on fire, December 6th, 2014. He is hoping the additional information will bring new tips for investigators.
Champion released more details Tuesday than ever before about where Chambers was on the day someone lit her on fire, December 6th, 2014. He is hoping the additional information will bring new tips for investigators.
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This is a sad case. Reading over what has been presented from various sources gives the hint the cops are not truly dedicated to investigating for fear of where the evidence might lead, or who they might have to go after. I am not saying that is true, just that it is an underlying theme.
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They're doing what every other police department would in a case like this.
If you google stuff like this, there's a LOT of unsolved cases where it looks like the department should be doing more, but really can't.
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Media backlash, political backlash, the threat of finding themselves under the guns of either the ACLU or guys like Al Sharpton. Again, I am not saying this is true in this case, just that there are hints at it.
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But there's really not. I'd like to know what is prompting you to see these "hints".
Right now, you have a community that wants this horrific crime solved. The department faces more scrutiny and criticism than if they catch someone that might cause some hard feelings in a particular community.
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The ACLU and Al Sharpton don't support and champion the rights of murderers who set their victims on fire.
If the police investigate in a lawful manner consistent with the constitution then the ACLU or Al Sharpton will have no qualms about it.
BUt if the police go around rounding up all blacks and muslims, trampling their civil rights as they beat confessions out of them, then yeah, the ACLU and Al Sharpton aren't going to like that very much.
Lets not let emotions overrule common sense. The ACLU and Al Sharpton and whatever left wing group you hate the most do NOT support murderers who set people on fire. To infer something like that is reckless and harmful to social discourse.
Everyone wants the killers of this girl brought to justice.
Based on what I've read about this case, I would simply say the Police seem inept and possibly incompetent. Imo, police spend the vast majority of their time on penny ante bs like traffic tickets and smacking down those on the lower economic rungs of the social ladder. So when something serious actually happens, a lot of police departments are ill equip to handle it.
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Groups like the ACLU and people like Al Sharpton often support the rights of murderers, regardless of how they kill their victims. One easy example is Mumia Abu-Jamal, a convicted cop killer who became a left-wing darling and cause celeb.
Jamal's case was championed by the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, Human Rights Watch, and Amnesty International, not to mention various labor unions, the European Parliament, the Amici Curiae National Lawyers Guild, Teachers Unions, NPR, and everyone promoting the racist white-America agenda. A number of colleges and universities invited him to deliver their commencement address. And he was a cop killer.
Sharpton tossed his hat into this ring as well. As part of a speech given on the grounds of the Washington Mall during the Million Man March Sharpton said:
"O.J. is home, but Mumia Abu Jamal ain’t home. And we won’t stop till all of our people that need a chance in an awkward and unbalanced criminal justice system can come home.”
Yeah, right, because that worked so well in the Central Park Jogger case. Or in the cases of Edmund Perry, Marla Hanson, Marion Berry, Edward Summers, Michael Lasane, and following the murders of Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian.
Details: http://www.christianforums.com/t7789248-16/ Post #153
This pattern of liberal groups and individuals having qualms about the US criminal justice system is well established. The evidence against OJ was also overwhelming, but the only person convicted was Mark Fuhrman. Rodney King lunged at the police, an act which led directly to their use of batons. But KTLA television edited that out of the tape so as not to discredit their claim of white cop racism. George Zimmerman's 9-11 call was deliberately edited in order to make him appear to have been racially motivated, and the left has yet to stop making that claim. During the LA riots which followed the Rodney King verdict Reginald Denny, a white truck driver just trying to do his job, was pulled from his truck and brutalized by a group of black men, acts also caught on tape. His life was saved only through the acts of other black men who came to his aid. But when those who assaulted Denny were arrested, Representative Maxine Waters immediately championed the cause of Damion Williams, the guy who smashed Denny's head with a slab of concrete, rather than those who came to Denny's aid. In her words the riots were an "understandable rebellion". I'm sure Denny felt better about almost being beaten to death during a rebellion rather than a needless riot.
Where has that happened? In what case?
Emotion overruling common sense is the common theme found throughout the cases listed above and in the left's reaction to them. In the case of Edmund Perry's shooting Hollywood made a movie entitled "Murder Without Motive" with complete disregard to the established fact the motive for the shooting was Perry and his brother were attempting to beat and mug an undercover cop. But truth is not the friend of the liberal agenda, therefore it must have been the white cop's fault.
Another example is the DC Beltway Sniper case. Following their arrest their connection to Islam was suppressed in the mainstream reporting. What would account for that?
Your comment reflects the standard response of many espousing a liberal point of view. I mention Al Sharpton and the ACLU therefore hate. And you have the gall to evoke emotion over common sense?
Regardless, if you actually look over the history objectively you will disprove your own assertion.
To ignore the truth is reckless and harmful to social discourse.
Everyone? You should read over this:
Mississippi Burning – Day #6 – The Murder of Jessica Lane Chambers Exposes Massive Problems In Panola County Mississippi… | The Last Refuge
Or afraid. At the time of this incident the local DA, John Champion, was already under scrutiny from both the Department of Justice and CRS for his actions in regard to the murder of Johnny Lee Butts.
Victim's son: 'They ran him over because he was black' - CNN.com
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People really shouldn't use this crime as a vehicle to levy racist attacks. The conspiracy theories about the police not wanting to investigate are akin to the people claiming vaccines are being used to mass sterilize people in Africa.
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